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Post by hurricaneoasis on Oct 23, 2008 14:21:29 GMT -5
why are you surprised by the drop? The people who bought that record the first week were the true Oasis fans in the country... it wasn't going to hold steady in the top 10, or 15 and it definitely wasn't going to climb any higher. Thats how all of their albums of have sold and charted since Be Here Now...
Oasis are not the act they used to be as far as popularity and drawing power in the US. They're not going to attract many new fans, and they seem fine with that. The way they're marketed here is geared toward existing fans, that seems to be the strategy.
The music industry does not work the way it used to. It's not based on how good or bad a record is. Music isn't played on MTV or even on the radio the way it was as little as ten years ago. Popular artists now are not only marketed well, but their records companies pay millions of dollars to get prime TV time, radio airplay, etc. To think otherwise is just naive.
The funny thing is I think they're respected a lot more now than they were with Morning Glory or Be Here Now, they're not just a side show canceling tours and walking off stage. They've earned respect as one of the last true rock bands.
Personally I'm fine with how big they are in the US. I don't want them to be popular with all the little kiddies or fraternity douche bags. I like the camaraderie that exists between Oasis fans. I like seeing them in intimate settings and appreciating the music. I like the fact that 90% of people at Oasis gigs are hardcore fans. Really I wouldn't have it any other way, and definitely not at the expense of selling a few more records.
America is not the be all and end all. Like most other things, the music scene in America has regressed, it's disgusting, good American bands have to leave the country to be appreciated. Oasis is still one of the biggest bands in the world and they definitely don't need the self involved, close minded, unappreciative and musically retarded American public to justify their greatness.
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Post by puretone on Oct 23, 2008 14:47:34 GMT -5
Lil Wayne is a marketing sham, they're spending like 10 million to put him all over the streets, it's ridiculous. That's the problem though, and that's what happened to Britney Spears. Thankfully he's not doing as great everywhere else. Here's his record sales: RIAA: 2x Multi-Platinum U.S Sales: 2.5 Million W.W. Sales 3.8 Million You do know off the back of that lollipop tune he sold a million in his first week? He reached 2 milll a few weeks later then. He has done phenomaly well and when he relaseses more singles his sales will shoot up again. |
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Oct 23, 2008 14:59:15 GMT -5
Good assessment Hurricane.
I'm 39 and Oasis is the only band I listen to that gets in the top ten in the U.S.
They had their day here and as long as I like their albums i'm fine.
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Post by oasis21128 on Oct 23, 2008 15:05:26 GMT -5
Wow...that is pretty bad. Speaking of mid 90s bands, I think Pearl Jam sells pretty awful too. Chili Peppers are about the only ones that still have big sales/interest. I am disappointed though because this album is really good. But people don't buy CDs anymore, y'know? no, I DON'T KNOW what you're talking about. People still buy CD's. just ask T.I., Lil Wayne, Anyone from Disney Channel, Linkin Park, Coldplay or even Kenny Chesney, who sold almost 200 thousand copies this week! that whole thing is just an excuse, they should've promoted the album harder at least here in the U.S. Everyone knew they'd do great in the UK. dropping some cash to MTV so that they put their video into heavy rotation, making a couple of appearances on Letterman or Conan like thay used to do back in the day(YOU KNOW WHEN THEY USED TO SELL LOTS OF RECORDS) would've also helped. How about actually touring the states?(major cities) not just a one nighter @ Seattle, which in case some of you don't know, no one here even considers them part of the U.S. lol Washington state is just way too up there. All of that would've helped sales a whole LOT. actually, 200K copies in a week is nothing. The artists you mention are the biggest around in terms of the young US market and they are selling a couple hundred albums in a week. If you remember back in the days of Nsync and Mariah Carey...they would open up and sell a million records easy... you can't deny that the industry is changing. I agree that Oasis could push themselves a little more, but they don't really care (as I don't either). They are making records and their fans are buying them....so I'm happy. |
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Post by oasis21128 on Oct 23, 2008 15:09:05 GMT -5
why are you surprised by the drop? The people who bought that record the first week were the true Oasis fans in the country... it wasn't going to hold steady in the top 10, or 15 and it definitely wasn't going to climb any higher. Thats how all of their albums of have sold and charted since Be Here Now... Oasis are not the act they used to be as far as popularity and drawing power in the US. They're not going to attract many new fans, and they seem fine with that. The way they're marketed here is geared toward existing fans, that seems to be the strategy. The music industry does not work the way it used to. It's not based on how good or bad a record is. Music isn't played on MTV or even on the radio the way it was as little as ten years ago. Popular artists now are not only marketed well, but their records companies pay millions of dollars to get prime TV time, radio airplay, etc. To think otherwise is just naive. The funny thing is I think they're respected a lot more now than they were with Morning Glory or Be Here Now, they're not just a side show canceling tours and walking off stage. They've earned respect as one of the last true rock bands. Personally I'm fine with how big they are in the US. I don't want them to be popular with all the little kiddies or fraternity douche bags. I like the camaraderie that exists between Oasis fans. I like seeing them in intimate settings and appreciating the music. I like the fact that 90% of people at Oasis gigs are hardcore fans. Really I wouldn't have it any other way, and definitely not at the expense of selling a few more records. America is not the be all and end all. Like most other things, the music scene in America has regressed, it's disgusting, good American bands have to leave the country to be appreciated. Oasis is still one of the biggest bands in the world and they definitely don't need the self involved, close minded, unappreciative and musically retarded American public to justify their greatness. agreed..... well said. |
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Post by ltrain44 on Oct 24, 2008 0:18:55 GMT -5
Not all of America hates Oasis. They are just not aware of them. Thats the problem. I am American and have loved Oasis since 1994 along with my 3 brothers. Hell, my mom even went to an Oasis gig back in 2000. I have 10 people going with me to The Patriot Center on Dec 20th. Oasis are hardly played on the Radio in the U.S. Thats a big problem as well as their choice of singles. Im outta time is not going to get a good reception here, its an ok song at best. BAG IT UP or Waiting for the Rapture would be a better choice.
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Post by keystone1316 on Oct 24, 2008 11:27:17 GMT -5
Not all of America hates Oasis. They are just not aware of them. Thats the problem. I am American and have loved Oasis since 1994 along with my 3 brothers. Hell, my mom even went to an Oasis gig back in 2000. I have 10 people going with me to The Patriot Center on Dec 20th. Oasis are hardly played on the Radio in the U.S. Thats a big problem as well as their choice of singles. Im outta time is not going to get a good reception here, its an ok song at best. BAG IT UP or Waiting for the Rapture would be a better choice. Bag It Up has a chance of doing alright on the rock charts... but I dont think any better than TSOTL. And Waiting for the Rapture wouldnt do anything here on the charts Im Outta Time is the most radio friendly, and has the best chance of cracking the Billboard top 75/40. If it turns out to be a fairly big hit... then itll increase the chances of the other singles charting fairly well. But yea... cant see any of the other singles doing better than IOT. Theyre too different from all the other shit on the radio nowadays |
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Post by tank13 on Oct 24, 2008 16:25:01 GMT -5
Lets face it, we know and Oasis knows it, they'll never be huge in the US. Even though this year is a perfect year to get back into the focus because there's no big, legendary bands coming out with albums, i.e. no new pearl jam, rhcp, green day, foo fighters, this was a perfect time to come in and seize the mantle. However, American kids, the new generation of music fans b/w 13-20 simply don't get it. They're to into that retarded emo music. How it took off, I don't have a fuckin clue.
Don't worry about radio charts or album sales. In the states if it aint hip hop, it wont chart. Go Oasis, keep rocking.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 25, 2008 6:19:56 GMT -5
Lets face it, we know and Oasis knows it, they'll never be huge in the US. Even though this year is a perfect year to get back into the focus because there's no big, legendary bands coming out with albums, i.e. no new pearl jam, rhcp, green day, foo fighters, this was a perfect time to come in and seize the mantle. However, American kids, the new generation of music fans b/w 13-20 simply don't get it. They're to into that retarded emo music. How it took off, I don't have a fuckin clue. Don't worry about radio charts or album sales. In the states if it aint hip hop, it wont chart. Go Oasis, keep rocking. actually ACDC, Metallica, GunsNroses are considered pretty "legendary" but whatever... Coldplay also released an album this year so... but yeah, i hear what you're saying and you're right, however we can't let that stop us altogether from trying to support the band anyway we can. |
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Post by vespa on Oct 25, 2008 11:48:12 GMT -5
oasis have cracked america,they were huge in the mid 90s but never really seized the moment an took control an never played the stadiums when they could,but theyve sold around 8 million albums over there(which is what coldplay have sold)an they have an still continue to sellout arenas all over.there problem was when they cancelled the famous tour back in the 90s,if theyd have played that then success sales wise wouldve continued but they didnt an america felt like they werent bothered about them.andy bell recently said that they could get back to selling records but itd take alot of touring again like when they started out an they simply cant be bothered to do,atleast now they are starting to get the critics on there side and the respect they deserve,i think this album will sell steadily
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