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Post by start at the end on Sept 3, 2008 13:02:01 GMT -5
There are absolutely ZERO inclinations that this is going to be anything resembling a "typical" Oasis record (whatever that is for people anyway  ). Just based off Falling Down, TBWTL, and The Shock, we already have 3 tunes that couldn't be more unique amongst themselves. This reality is why I'm still so amped for 8 more songs that could continue to spice up this chili. Just imagine if I'm Outta Time proves to be a quasi "Songbird III" and how it would fit with these 3 songs (not to mention the balance of this album)? Wow. What a listen this album could still prove to be. |
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Sept 5, 2008 18:37:13 GMT -5
Well said!
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Post by matt on Sept 7, 2008 11:49:45 GMT -5
Yep, agree with SOULDIGGER, this is well said.
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Post by baresolid on Sept 7, 2008 12:48:32 GMT -5
TSOTL could have been on any previous Oasis album with slightly different production. It really is a typical Oasis single.
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Post by underneaththesky on Dec 12, 2022 19:59:41 GMT -5
where did it all go wrong?
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Post by World71R on Dec 12, 2022 23:51:58 GMT -5
where did it all go wrong? "Liam fucked off and got married so we didn't get the vocals recorded for two of the songs." |
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Post by matt on Dec 13, 2022 16:14:02 GMT -5
Yep, agree with SOULDIGGER, this is well said. This aged well... The album is unambitious shite for the most part. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Dec 14, 2022 7:42:51 GMT -5
It really falls apart after Noelβs songβs dry up (HHL aside). Iβd love to be able to go back in time and convince Noel to take his time and never let the other three write songs
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Post by Marcos on Dec 14, 2022 9:35:41 GMT -5
Yep, agree with SOULDIGGER, this is well said. This aged well... The album is unambitious shite for the most part. Agreed. It sounds really good from tracks 1 to 5, then comes the ATROCIOUS High Horse Lady, becomes great again with Falling Down but after that it really falls down.. (no pun intended). |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 14, 2022 10:29:11 GMT -5
This aged well... The album is unambitious shite for the most part. Agreed. It sounds really good from tracks 1 to 5, then comes the ATROCIOUS High Horse Lady, becomes great again with Falling Down but after that it really falls down.. (no pun intended). Noel had the tunes to help round out DOYS. Like you said and as many have said over the last decade, the first half is fantastic but then it all comes apart. Songs like Record Machine, Come On Itβs Alright and Boy With The Blues SHOULD have been on this LP. |
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Post by Firefly on Dec 14, 2022 11:10:46 GMT -5
Never understood fans hate for this album when it first came out though seems to be better thought of these days. Loved it from first listen and rarely skip a track. I don't mind the second half of the album. It's a journey. I'm in the minority for liking High Horse, Solider On and Ain't Got Nothin'. Those are good tunes.
This is the album I'll play for friends who aren't into Oasis as they find it more varied and not a case of all the songs sounding the same (hey, not an accusation I can get my head around but that's the feedback I often get from the first two albums).
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Post by morning_rain on Dec 14, 2022 11:43:39 GMT -5
Always loved it, even if it's far from perfect. It's a very good album that could've been huge with the right tracklist. This is the album I'll play for friends who aren't into Oasis as they find it more varied and not a case of all the songs sounding the same I agree. I remember when it was released, me and my friends (they're not Oasis fans by any means) used to play it nonstop. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 14, 2022 12:18:54 GMT -5
Never understood fans hate for this album when it first came out though seems to be better thought of these days. Loved it from first listen and rarely skip a track. I don't mind the second half of the album. It's a journey. I'm in the minority for liking High Horse, Solider On and Ain't Got Nothin'. Those are good tunes. This is the album I'll play for friends who aren't into Oasis as they find it more varied and not a case of all the songs sounding the same (hey, not an accusation I can get my head around but that's the feedback I often get from the first two albums). It just hurts because while promoting DOYS in America he said that songs like High Horse and Ainβt Got Muffins were never supposed to be on the album so they feel like second choices. |
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Post by Teotihuacan on Dec 14, 2022 12:55:10 GMT -5
Perfectly decent LP, played it loads at the time, but don't tend to revisit it quite so much since.
The AA Monstrous Falling Down remix (released in the same era), while not exactly, strictly written entirely by NG or Oasis was an incredible way to bring down the curtain on a mostly solid career.
Yes the last 9 years were far less exciting than the first 4 or 5, but hey that's the trajectory of pretty much band every rock band since time began, with only a handful of examples to the contrary - such as Bowie, U2, REM maybe?
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Post by jh on Dec 14, 2022 13:03:27 GMT -5
Perfectly decent LP, played it loads at the time, but don't tend to revisit it quite so much since. The AA Monstrous Falling Down remix (released in the same era), while not exactly, strictly written entirely by NG or Oasis was an incredible way to bring down the curtain on a mostly solid career. Yes the last 9 years were far less exciting than the first 4 or 5, but hey that's the trajectory of pretty much band every rock band since time began, with only a handful of examples to the contrary - such as Bowie, U2, REM maybe? Yep for me a very enjoyable album. Never got the hate to be honest. To be where's there's life is immense |
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Post by jeffrey on Dec 14, 2022 13:23:40 GMT -5
I love DOYS β I even dig TNOR, which most people seem to despise.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 14, 2022 13:54:12 GMT -5
Never understood fans hate for this album when it first came out though seems to be better thought of these days. Loved it from first listen and rarely skip a track. I don't mind the second half of the album. It's a journey. I'm in the minority for liking High Horse, Solider On and Ain't Got Nothin'. Those are good tunes. This is the album I'll play for friends who aren't into Oasis as they find it more varied and not a case of all the songs sounding the same (hey, not an accusation I can get my head around but that's the feedback I often get from the first two albums). I've never understood the hate for it either even though I'm not a fan of High Horse Lady. It's ok but not great. And, Ain't Got Nothing isn't one of Liam's best but it's listenable I guess. Also, I've always loved To Be Where There's Life and never got the hate for that song. |
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Post by jezza2 on Dec 14, 2022 15:49:53 GMT -5
Likewise, I don't understand the hate for it. It's a very enjoyable album and you can listen to it in one sitting without skipping songs, that includes (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady and The Nature Of Reality.
First five songs like most people say are absolute bangers. It feels like everything flows perfectly.
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Post by matt on Dec 14, 2022 16:13:42 GMT -5
A big issue with the album is that it sounds so dated and retro. Yes, Oasis were never original but their sound was contemporary in the 1990s with Owen Morris at the helm.
Obviously Dave Sardy has to take a lot of the blame, but songwriting wise, nothing went beyond the 1960s and 1970s influences. And it sounds like an album from the 60s and 70s by some mediocre long haired hippy weirdos specialising in sludgy glam rock. An album so incredibly out of touch against the band's contemporaries during that period who were releasing much more diverse and sonically interesting albums.
Their regressive, conservative instincts were infuriating at this stage. All the better they broke up then.
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Post by Jessica on Dec 14, 2022 18:07:23 GMT -5
I love DOYS β I even dig TNOR, which most people seem to despise. Same! |
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Post by dazed on Dec 14, 2022 19:11:39 GMT -5
The second half might not be as strong as individual songs but they flow very well for me and complete the journey of the album as a project overall IMO. I still say that Soldier On is an absolute gem and one of Liam's finest bits of writing.
This album seems to get very underrated by this forum and hardcore UK Oasis junkies but it has a hipstery appeal to people abroad judging by how its talked about on YouTube comments and such. I guess the lyrics on TNOR just don't sound as shit or on the nose if you're not an English speaker first and foremost (like me).
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Post by Jessica on Dec 14, 2022 23:58:13 GMT -5
Don't know, it sounded better than anything on the radio here at least, to my then 19 year-old ears anyway.
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Post by morning_rain on Dec 15, 2022 3:23:46 GMT -5
This album seems to get very underrated by this forum and hardcore UK Oasis junkies but it has a hipstery appeal to people abroad judging by how its talked about on YouTube comments and such. I guess the lyrics on TNOR just don't sound as shit or on the nose if you're not an English speaker first and foremost (like me). I agree, I always said that when you're not an English speaker the music always comes first, and on a second or third listen then you pay attention to the lyrics. That's why I think some of us enjoy certain songs more than the English speaking audience. |
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Post by Flashbax on Dec 15, 2022 8:38:35 GMT -5
Definitely the best album after the first 4
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Post by dadrocker on Dec 15, 2022 10:03:14 GMT -5
I like the first 4 Noel tunes and Falling Down and that's about it. To be honest I had checked out of Oasis by this point so this album always has a weird feel to me because I wasn't really around much during it. High Horse, Ain't Got Nothin', Nature of Reality and Solider On are probably among the worst Oasis tracks imo. Even just taking off the Gem track and the Andy track for Lord, Don't Slow Me Down and Boy with the Blues makes a better album.
What also robbed this album was them not being able to play Bag It Up or The Turning live. Would have made the gigs a lot better.
Happy the band ended after this and we've gotten Noel's varied output since rather than another sludge of bland Oasis records.
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