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Post by ugottahavefun on Aug 19, 2008 11:00:28 GMT -5
Catch the wheel that breaks the butterfly
Setting Sun it blows my mind
Please don't waste my time
all the above are falling down on all that he's ever known
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Post by Liffonmelsmork on Aug 19, 2008 12:37:46 GMT -5
"I cried the rain that fills the ocean wide".
I still cringe when I hear that.
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Post by ugottahavefun on Aug 19, 2008 12:41:45 GMT -5
Catch the wheel-present tense
Cried-past tense
hmm
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Aug 19, 2008 13:41:12 GMT -5
you're a moron
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 19, 2008 13:59:37 GMT -5
There's no way it's positive. Sorry dude.
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Post by KPZK the Most Supreme...Thingy on Aug 21, 2008 9:27:52 GMT -5
No minor-key song could possibly be conceived as being positive.
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Aug 22, 2008 16:26:06 GMT -5
No minor-key song could possibly be conceived as being positive. LOL  |
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Post by ugottahavefun on Aug 24, 2008 11:53:12 GMT -5
Transylvania by mcfly is minor and yet...
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Post by nyr401994 on Aug 26, 2008 3:20:14 GMT -5
it's kinda lame too...
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Post by ugottahavefun on Oct 4, 2008 13:29:28 GMT -5
HAHA only one vote for FD being a positive song.
Who were the 13 dunces?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 5, 2008 15:44:15 GMT -5
From UNCUT: “(Get Off Your) High Horse Lady” is a pretty funny title and not much more, but it gives us a breather before “Falling Down”, which implausibly enough, this late in the day, is one of the best songs Noel's ever written. Riding along on a downbeat echo of that “Tomorrow Never Knows” drum break, Noel complains of trying to talk to God to no avail, as the sun comes down on all he knows. “We live a dying dream, if you know what I mean,.” And for once you kind of do. Turns out we're not going to Live Forever after all. www.uncut.co.uk/news/uncut/news/12241Try to be smart for once, UGHF, I know that that's hard for you though. Idiot. |
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Post by ugottahavefun on Oct 5, 2008 16:00:31 GMT -5
HAHAHA! So only me and Noel can gleam positive-ness from FD eh? Ok I'm cool with that as we know the truth From Noel Gallagher www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/theticket/2008/1003/1222815469295.html"Lyrically though, I'm proud of Falling Down on this album. You mentioned earlier that you thought it was about a comedown from drugs. That song started when I was sitting in my back garden this time last year and there was this beautiful early autumn sunset. I was thinking about all that climate-change bollocks and came to the conclusion that man really is incapable of destroying all this. "But you wouldn't necessarily get that from the song. I don't do really do biography or 'issues'. I hate it when there's a song you really love and you think it's about a certain thing and then, years later, the songwriter says 'that song is about X or Y', and it's totally different to what you imagined." |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 5, 2008 17:24:51 GMT -5
Again, nowhere in that excerpt does he explain the meaning of the song, nor does he tell us the vibe it's suppose to give off. All he does is talk about his INSPIRATION for the song - more specifically the first line: "A summer sun, it blows my mind" UGHF, this isn't John Locke or Shakespear, the lyrics to Oasis songs, while deep and profound at times, aren't hard to interpret - as seen by even your own poll above. I feel like I'm patronizing you by giving this quote AGAIN, but at the same time it's not patronizing when the person you're talking to is a fool. Read this a thousand times, and hope for your sake you finally get it: Noel complains of trying to talk to God to no avail, a s the sun comes down on all he knows. “We live a dying dream, if you know what I mean,.” And for once you kind of do. Turns out we're not going to Live Forever after all.^ Yeah, REAL positive  ID-I-OT |
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Post by ugottahavefun on Oct 6, 2008 13:28:07 GMT -5
Again, nowhere in that excerpt does he explain the meaning of the song, nor does he tell us the vibe it's suppose to give off. All he does is talk about his INSPIRATION for the song - more specifically the first line: "A summer sun, it blows my mind" UGHF, this isn't John Locke or Shakespear, the lyrics to Oasis songs, while deep and profound at times, aren't hard to interpret - as seen by even your own poll above. I feel like I'm patronizing you by giving this quote AGAIN, but at the same time it's not patronizing when the person you're talking to is a fool. Read this a thousand times, and hope for your sake you finally get it: Noel complains of trying to talk to God to no avail, a s the sun comes down on all he knows. “We live a dying dream, if you know what I mean,.” And for once you kind of do. Turns out we're not going to Live Forever after all.^ Yeah, REAL positive ID-I-OT Sorry mate it's positive. You're quoting a journalist, i'm quoting noel. Summer sun it blows my mind, very positive, as he's thinking human kind is incapable of destroying this , this thing of beauty it's falling down on all that i've ever known it's falling (ie as a sunset does seemingly) into the earth/world/society...everything that he knows of. Time to kiss the world goodbye...again sun-related, the sun is kissing the world goodbye as it's setting We live a dying dream. SOOOOOOOOOO Positive,, to live a dream is generally to be in a joyous state, and a dying dream is a joyous state that fades away.......like life. Yes we're not going to live forever but hell sure as are going to be madferit A dying scream, it makes no sound Calling out to all that I've ever known Here am I, lost and found Calling out to all First two lines here are just another example of the noel paradox lyric. whereas lost and found...hmmm he's been lost but now he's back on track how's that negative? CAtch the wheel that breaks the butterfly-Positive, i know there's a wiki thing on it but taken literally you're stopping something with connations pf innocence being destroyed. I cried the rain that fills the ocean wide I tried to talk with God to no avail Calling my name from out of nowhere I said "If you won't save me, please don't waste my time" Underlines independence here with the multiple I's, and showing that he indeed is his own god, and the fuck you attitude inherrent in the last line illustrates this also. Also the chorus just sounds mega and makes you smile...another sign for me that this is positive. Broaden your mind child |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 6, 2008 15:21:57 GMT -5
I see words such as "connotation" and "paradox" which you surprisingly use correctly. But that's misleading because your analysis is just flat out wrong and absurd, which makes me question your intellect despite using the aforementioned words, the former of which has a mighty 4 syllables - you sure you can handle that? Sound it out, I'm sure you'll get it eventually....
Dude, either go back to school or stop trying to sound smarter than you really are. You have no clue what you're talking about.
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Post by ugottahavefun on Oct 6, 2008 15:25:27 GMT -5
I see words such as "connotation" and "paradox" which you surprisingly use correctly. But that's misleading because your analysis is just flat out wrong and absurd, which makes me question your intellect despite using the aforementioned words, the former of which has a mighty 4 syllables - you sure you can handle that? Sound it out, I'm sure you'll get it eventually.... Dude, either go back to school or stop trying to sound smarter than you really are. You have no clue what you're talking about. Lame reply, And besides it only seems like yesterday when you were praising my writing skills... |
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Post by carzynick on Jan 4, 2009 19:58:26 GMT -5
My interpretation of this song(remember, at the end of the day it's about what you take away from the song.) I usually don't post on this site (i'm several other sites too.) but this whole topic intrigued me.
"A summer sun that blows my mind
Is falling down on all that I've ever known
Time to kiss the world goodbye
Falling down on all that I've ever known
Is all that I've ever known?"
Obviously refering to the end of the day. this isn't as much negative as it is questioning ones own existence. the last line is presented as a question though it may not seem like it.
"A dying scream, it makes no sound
Calling out to all that I've ever known
Here am I, lost and found
Calling out to all"
this, I feel, is very negative. it implies that either Noel is calling out for help but no one hears it. the lost and found lyric is kind of a paradox. I interpret it as having a lot of people around you but no one knows of his pain.
"We live a dying dream
If you know what I mean"
This is obviously negative because a dream is something that keeps you motivated and if that dream is dying you yourself are dying. then the "if you know what I mean" implies that everyone feels the same way or in other words, understand his pain but won't do any thing about it.
"catch the wheel that breaks the butterfly"
from Wikipedia:
The lyric: "Catch the wheel that breaks the butterfly" references the quotation: "Who breaks a butterfly upon a wheel?" from Alexander Pope's Epistle to Dr Arbuthnot.
"i cried the rain that fills the ocean wide
i tried to talk with god to no avail
i called him up in and out of nowhere
said if you won't save me please don't waste my time"
obviously a shot at god who hasn't helped him very much. Noel needs to be saved and if God won't help then he doesn't want to waste his time with him. See Noel believes in God. but apparently he doesn't believe god has done anything to help Noel. Which I would interpret as Negative.
But the song is more a question of ones own existence as opposed to just whining about being depressed. In my opinion though it is a sad song. but if you want to try to find light in a dark place then be my guest.
I'm not saying your wrong, I'm saying don't try to convince other people to see it differently when they already have there own take on the song.
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Post by carzynick on Jan 4, 2009 20:00:31 GMT -5
Not to mention. Noel doesn't exactly look happy when he sings it, but Noel is that kind of person too.
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Post by thebluemeaniee on Jan 8, 2009 15:19:28 GMT -5
alright i read all the way down the line everyone's theory of the meaning behind falling down ?i'm fucking confused and your all grounded  .maybe it a struggle with his mind,heart & mortality together like some of you we're saying.perhaps thoughts in his head conflict with feeling in his heart or vice versa wich get him thinking about his life and direction its going. where some people try to take a theological look at life but he might feel that even god cant help him with whats going on in his life.like no one really understands him or could help him not even god.the lyrics dont really seem positive but i guess it depends you constru the lyrics right i dont know noel's soul is as deep as the ocean we'd all love to dive down deep but are left in the shallows catching the sun. |
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Post by carzynick on Jan 11, 2009 16:15:41 GMT -5
Wow, this topic has turned out to be quite the psychological topic
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Jan 11, 2009 23:35:04 GMT -5
I don't think it's positive and I don't think it's good. Sorry.
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Post by checkwithmemum on Jan 12, 2009 1:12:06 GMT -5
I get from it that as Noels time comes closer to the end he realises that he is truly doing things for a different reason to those around him, but he knows we all live for different highs. It's about him reaching a level of comfort with who he is but also longing for more and not wanting to spend anymore of his time flogging anymore dead horses.
It's a song of change and reflection and one which reveals a more mellow side to Noel, that's not positive, but it's not particularly negative either, just reflective with a hint of sadness.
Amazing song IMO
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Post by NYR on Jan 12, 2009 10:46:39 GMT -5
do some people have too much time on their hands? from what i've read... yes. yes, they do.
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Post by carzynick on Jan 13, 2009 11:31:14 GMT -5
do some people have too much time on their hands? from what i've read... yes. yes, they do. Hey, if it were any other song I would have let it slide, but this has become my favorite Oasis song |
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.maybe it a struggle with his mind,heart & mortality together like some of you we're saying.perhaps thoughts in his head conflict with feeling in his heart or vice versa wich get him thinking about his life and direction its going. where some people try to take a theological look at life but he might feel that even god cant help him with whats going on in his life.like no one really understands him or could help him not even god.the lyrics dont really seem positive but i guess it depends you constru the lyrics right i dont know noel's soul is as deep as the ocean we'd all love to dive down deep but are left in the shallows catching the sun.
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