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Post by start at the end on Jul 31, 2008 12:27:46 GMT -5
Lord knows, it can't get any worse after the promotional debacle Sony oversaw for the better part of a decade. When I thougt about it, I really couldn't come up with a plethora of "big-name" acts under WB besides the White Stripes and Metallica, so I looked up a list...I was somewhat underwhelmed. Some of the more "prominent" names: michelle branch (yawn) linkin park (ouch) my chemical romance (?) tomb petty (ZZZZZZZ) Red Hot Chili Peppers (decent) REM (maybe 25 years ago) the smashing pumpkins (maybe 15 years ago) Timabaland (a live4ever forum favorite) Regardless of what you think of the "artist", the point I'm trying to make is that none of them get any real serious promotion, outside of perhaps the chili peppers. Now, WB may go ahead and break the bank with Oasis, but this isn't exactly a reassuring laundry list of commercial blockbusters. Although I do think Madonna's label Maverick is also unbrella'd under WB. Long story short, I guess I'm not expecting much by ways of promotion...again. here's one of the lists I was looking at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_Warner_Bros._Records_artistsIt's sad, cause they deserve better. Any ideas on what Warner Bros may do differently? I'm guessing heavier i-net advertising and maybe even (gasp!) a 15 sec tv or radio spot? |
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Post by oasisfanforever on Jul 31, 2008 12:34:28 GMT -5
TOM PETTY SHOULD BE !!!!!!!! NOT ZZZZZZZZZ first of all hes a legend just as many great songs as oasis and they promote the shit outa tom petty, chili peppers and white stripes
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Post by start at the end on Jul 31, 2008 12:37:55 GMT -5
TOM PETTY SHOULD BE !!!!!!!! NOT ZZZZZZZZZ first of all hes a legend just as many great songs as oasis and they promote the shit outa tom petty, chili peppers and white stripes take it easy slugger. He's been around for 90 years so he damn well better have some songs! LOL! I agree that RHCP and the Stripes get their promtional $$$'s (as mentioned in the op), but that's only 2 out of at least a couple hundred acts. I guess I think it could go either way. |
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Post by njoasisnyc on Jul 31, 2008 12:41:30 GMT -5
tom petty played the superbowl no?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 31, 2008 12:44:24 GMT -5
TOM PETTY SHOULD BE !!!!!!!! NOT ZZZZZZZZZ first of all hes a legend just as many great songs as oasis and they promote the shit outa tom petty, chili peppers and white stripes Agreed, Tom Petty is great - kicks the shit out of most on that list, including RHCP. Last Dance With Mary Jane, Free Falling, Dont Do Me Like That, Learning to Fly, Even the Losers, Refugee -- basically anything off of the greatest hits album -- all mega. As for your concern, you may not like those artists listed - and that's def. understandable - the fact is that every single one is huge in America |
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Post by Plantpot on Jul 31, 2008 13:11:39 GMT -5
tom petty played the superbowl no? Barely. He could hardly stand up.  Al jokes aside, I hear he and his travelin' band are still rocking out. A mate of mine saw them not too long ago and said Petty still has what it takes. He definitely is a legend. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 31, 2008 13:15:57 GMT -5
Dont Come Around Here No More is also fantastic
It's amazing how an artist so popular in the 70s can regain popularity with a new generation 30 years later - without doing much of anything in between. 3 years ago when I was a senior in HS, my entire grade become randomly obsessed with Tom Petty. Such a good artist to play in the summer time too....
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Post by Plantpot on Jul 31, 2008 13:18:05 GMT -5
Dont Come Around Here No More is also fantastic I agree. |
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Post by start at the end on Jul 31, 2008 13:22:15 GMT -5
tom petty played the superbowl no? so did gloria estefan, savion glover, no doubt, kid rock, big bad vodoo daddy, irma thomas and queen latifah. not sure if really means much in all honesty. I have no real beef with petty btw, I just wouldn't call the guy a chart-busting sensation. in 30+ years: NOT ONE number 1 album, and ONE top ten single (Free Fallin, I think). let's get real here people. over 30 years in the business. He's successful, but he's no Springsteen. |
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Post by start at the end on Jul 31, 2008 13:23:41 GMT -5
btw...Springsteen has EIGHT number 1 albums. EIGHT!!! how nuts is that?
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Post by njoasisnyc on Jul 31, 2008 13:24:56 GMT -5
just saying playing the superbowl has a lot to do with your label.. thats most sought after gig of the year for any artist.
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Post by start at the end on Jul 31, 2008 13:30:19 GMT -5
just saying playing the superbowl has a lot to do with your label.. thats most sought after gig of the year for any artist. it can't hurt that's for sure. Im cautiously optimistic for Oasis. |
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Jul 31, 2008 13:37:51 GMT -5
It can't be any worse then the last 3 albums
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Post by helmet959 on Jul 31, 2008 16:05:45 GMT -5
i dig seeing the tom petty love.... that guy might not have 8 #1 records, but he's never recorded a bad album, that man and his band have been so consistent throughout their career he was the youngster invited into a band with Bob Dylan, Roy Orbison, George Harrison the heartbreakers were Dylans band for a while in the 80's in 1985 they adapted to a changing rock music scene with Don't Come Around Here No More. i think over the generations he has done a better job of appealing to new audiences than Springsteen. Free Fallin and Full Moon Fever in 1989 gave him a new young audience. Mary Janes Last Dance did again 1993 which helped introduce his new fans to his back catalog. Wildflowers in 1994 was hugely succesful after that. These were tremendous albums that stood completely on their own merit. I think the younger audiences appreciate that fresh approach. Wildflowers was good enough to get into even if you didn't know petty's older stuff. anyone listened to Highway Companion? f'in brilliant stuff. he hasn't lost a step saw him at Nissan Pavillion 2 months ago, and the crowd was at least half under the age of 30.... so half weren't even born when he first recorded an album? petty rules, end of story  |
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Post by helmet959 on Jul 31, 2008 16:09:43 GMT -5
oh and i too am STOKED about the possibility of a promotional push in the U.S. for oasis!
please WB, give them the time they deserve, i think the U.S. is ready for oasis part 2
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Post by oasisfanforever on Jul 31, 2008 16:38:04 GMT -5
in the words of OUR KID "its not about selling records its about being real" and tom petty is as real as it gets
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Post by start at the end on Jul 31, 2008 16:44:47 GMT -5
an absolute all-out tom petty sweat session.
I like the guy, saw him twice 2 years ago touring with pearl jam and honestly thought both of his sets were appalling.
I do like a lot of his stuff though.
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Post by jlzoasis on Jul 31, 2008 17:51:58 GMT -5
i dig seeing the tom petty love.... that guy might not have 8 #1 records, but he's never recorded a bad album, that man and his band have been so consistent throughout their career he was the youngster invited into a band with Bob Dylan, Roy Orbison, George Harrison the heartbreakers were Dylans band for a while in the 80's in 1985 they adapted to a changing rock music scene with Don't Come Around Here No More. i think over the generations he has done a better job of appealing to new audiences than Springsteen. Free Fallin and Full Moon Fever in 1989 gave him a new young audience. Mary Janes Last Dance did again 1993 which helped introduce his new fans to his back catalog. Wildflowers in 1994 was hugely succesful after that. These were tremendous albums that stood completely on their own merit. I think the younger audiences appreciate that fresh approach. Wildflowers was good enough to get into even if you didn't know petty's older stuff. anyone listened to Highway Companion? f'in brilliant stuff. he hasn't lost a step saw him at Nissan Pavillion 2 months ago, and the crowd was at least half under the age of 30.... so half weren't even born when he first recorded an album? petty rules, end of story I love the traveling wilburys......look at my location  |
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jul 31, 2008 18:56:55 GMT -5
promotion from warner brothers is going to be great. they have already contacted several program directors.
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Post by nyr401994 on Jul 31, 2008 20:11:54 GMT -5
Lord knows, it can't get any worse after the promotional debacle Sony oversaw for the better part of a decade. When I thougt about it, I really couldn't come up with a plethora of "big-name" acts under WB besides the White Stripes and Metallica, so I looked up a list...I was somewhat underwhelmed. Some of the more "prominent" names: michelle branch (yawn) linkin park (ouch) my chemical romance (?) tomb petty (ZZZZZZZ) Red Hot Chili Peppers (decent) REM (maybe 25 years ago) the smashing pumpkins (maybe 15 years ago) Timabaland (a live4ever forum favorite) Regardless of what you think of the "artist", the point I'm trying to make is that none of them get any real serious promotion, outside of perhaps the chili peppers. Now, WB may go ahead and break the bank with Oasis, but this isn't exactly a reassuring laundry list of commercial blockbusters. Although I do think Madonna's label Maverick is also unbrella'd under WB. Long story short, I guess I'm not expecting much by ways of promotion...again. here's one of the lists I was looking at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_Warner_Bros._Records_artistsIt's sad, cause they deserve better. Any ideas on what Warner Bros may do differently? I'm guessing heavier i-net advertising and maybe even (gasp!) a 15 sec tv or radio spot? do you realize that r.e.m., rhcp, tom petty and all those other bands don't even need promotion anymore. they're that big. |
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on Jul 31, 2008 20:29:59 GMT -5
promotion from warner brothers is going to be great. they have already contacted several program directors. How does that work? Do Warner reps try to influence program directors to put the music in regular rotation? I know you work for a major station, so I'm just interested in the business side of things... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2008 20:56:25 GMT -5
Lord knows, it can't get any worse after the promotional debacle Sony oversaw for the better part of a decade. When I thougt about it, I really couldn't come up with a plethora of "big-name" acts under WB besides the White Stripes and Metallica, so I looked up a list...I was somewhat underwhelmed. Some of the more "prominent" names: michelle branch (yawn) linkin park (ouch) my chemical romance (?) tomb petty (ZZZZZZZ) Red Hot Chili Peppers (decent) REM (maybe 25 years ago) the smashing pumpkins (maybe 15 years ago) Timabaland (a live4ever forum favorite) Regardless of what you think of the "artist", the point I'm trying to make is that none of them get any real serious promotion, outside of perhaps the chili peppers. Now, WB may go ahead and break the bank with Oasis, but this isn't exactly a reassuring laundry list of commercial blockbusters. Although I do think Madonna's label Maverick is also unbrella'd under WB. Long story short, I guess I'm not expecting much by ways of promotion...again. here's one of the lists I was looking at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_Warner_Bros._Records_artistsIt's sad, cause they deserve better. Any ideas on what Warner Bros may do differently? I'm guessing heavier i-net advertising and maybe even (gasp!) a 15 sec tv or radio spot? do you realize that r.e.m., rhcp, tom petty and all those other bands don't even need promotion anymore. they're that big. Pretty much. All you need to do for RHCP is throw a music video on MTV and watch the money roll in. |
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Post by start at the end on Aug 1, 2008 7:36:22 GMT -5
Lord knows, it can't get any worse after the promotional debacle Sony oversaw for the better part of a decade. When I thougt about it, I really couldn't come up with a plethora of "big-name" acts under WB besides the White Stripes and Metallica, so I looked up a list...I was somewhat underwhelmed. Some of the more "prominent" names: michelle branch (yawn) linkin park (ouch) my chemical romance (?) tomb petty (ZZZZZZZ) Red Hot Chili Peppers (decent) REM (maybe 25 years ago) the smashing pumpkins (maybe 15 years ago) Timabaland (a live4ever forum favorite) Regardless of what you think of the "artist", the point I'm trying to make is that none of them get any real serious promotion, outside of perhaps the chili peppers. Now, WB may go ahead and break the bank with Oasis, but this isn't exactly a reassuring laundry list of commercial blockbusters. Although I do think Madonna's label Maverick is also unbrella'd under WB. Long story short, I guess I'm not expecting much by ways of promotion...again. here's one of the lists I was looking at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_Warner_Bros._Records_artistsIt's sad, cause they deserve better. Any ideas on what Warner Bros may do differently? I'm guessing heavier i-net advertising and maybe even (gasp!) a 15 sec tv or radio spot? do you realize that r.e.m., rhcp, tom petty and all those other bands don't even need promotion anymore. they're that big. Sure they're "that big" NOW...they're homegrown talent thats been around for DECADES. Even so, if you don't think competent marketing has a direct, measurable effect on their sales/popularity you're insane. Take a look at first week sales of theri albums over the last decade, the one's that suffered from poor promotion lagged in sales..many times REGARDLESS of their content. it matters. |
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