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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 28, 2008 14:51:36 GMT -5
Seriously
Who Put The Weight of the World on My Shoulder
Stop the Clocks
Record Machine
Yes, the latter 2 needs to be touched up a bit, but still - there's 3 very solid anthem like tunes. That's 30% of the album right there if you're going by the traditional 10 songs or so. -- Revolution Song would make it 4 songs, and 40%.....
And who knows what else Noel is hoarding?
Yeah, I know - we already got our WTS album, and WTS wanna be album (HC). And yeah, I too am excited to hear the "new sound" and heavy rock and groovy tunes, but still......
I'll backtrack a bit, I DONT think Noel is necessarily saving STC and RM for an album he's already planning for - I just don't see him looking 3+ years into the future. BUT I know that's what I would do. I personally think it would be genius to accumulate like-sounding tunes over 6+ years in order to put them on the last album of your career and go out with a bang (While still releasing quality tunes at the same time, but of a different sound)
That's the one and only thing about Oasis, and Noel in particular, that really bothers me - the decision to leave tracks off studio released album. We all know the old ones - See Masterplan "Album"......WPTWOTWOMS joins that list (which is a great tune) and it's looking more and more likely that STC and RM will too....UGH. WHY NOEL? WHYYYYYY
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Post by puretone on Jul 28, 2008 15:00:35 GMT -5
Why do you care? You still get to hear the tunes. It's not like there never released. All them tunes you named are good but nothing of the quality of an Acquiesce or The Masterplan so just listen to them and look forward to the Brand new tunes they have comeing.
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Post by ugottahavefun on Jul 28, 2008 15:09:52 GMT -5
It can be irratating but hey it's all part of the oasis myth! Having class songs that don't make albums( or singles, b-sides i take it) just endears oasis more to their devouted fans. The majority of people will be oblivious to this, aswell as the b-sides, and probably rate oasis as a second rate band, but aye, we know the truth!!!
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Post by Columbus Egg on Jul 28, 2008 15:40:08 GMT -5
I'm holding out on hearing the other two til I'm absolutely positive they won't be on the upcoming albums or singles but WPTWOTWOMS is a nauseating Morrissey knockoff. No way I'd want that on an album.
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Post by Jonny on Jul 28, 2008 15:41:54 GMT -5
Could well be likely, but I reckon they'll just knock out a Masterplan V2 with them on.
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Post by Underneath the sky on Jul 28, 2008 16:03:07 GMT -5
Wouldn't you feel slightly pissed off if they filled half an album with songs you'd already heard before? I wouldn't mind 1 or 2 previously heard songs, but half of an album of songs that are 8+ years old would just smack of laziness. I'd prefer an EP next summer with RM, STC, The Boy with the Blues and Revolution Song.
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Post by GasPanic on Jul 28, 2008 16:24:07 GMT -5
It'd be a real nice idea for Oasis to have box-sets for all their albums on their official websites store or something. It'd have the album itself, and all the singles included, maybe a nice little poster or something of the album cover or a few live recordings.
And if that works well, they could officially release the demos and include those a few years later on the box-set, making people buy it again, just for the demos
Or even just a CD with b-sides and stuff. They could even do what Pearl Jam did and have live recordings of every show they play on this tour for sale on their website. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
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Post by mrmonkey on Jul 28, 2008 16:37:02 GMT -5
Wouldn't you feel slightly pissed off if they filled half an album with songs you'd already heard before? I wouldn't mind 1 or 2 previously heard songs, but half of an album of songs that are 8+ years old would just smack of laziness. I'd prefer an EP next summer with RM, STC, The Boy with the Blues and Revolution Song. smacks of laziness?  there called work in progress ie Let there be love!!!!! and saying would you want songs you already heard well guess what? you were not supposed to of heard them!!!!!! all around the world was written at the time of definitley maybe!!!! |
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Post by Moorish on Jul 28, 2008 19:57:10 GMT -5
Wouldn't you feel slightly pissed off if they filled half an album with songs you'd already heard before? I wouldn't mind 1 or 2 previously heard songs, but half of an album of songs that are 8+ years old would just smack of laziness. I'd prefer an EP next summer with RM, STC, The Boy with the Blues and Revolution Song. smacks of laziness? there called work in progress ie Let there be love!!!!! and saying would you want songs you already heard well guess what? you were not supposed to of heard them!!!!!! all around the world was written at the time of definitley maybe!!!! Yeah, and look what the extra years got us - a 9 minute song bloated beyond belief! ;D If the stuff gets old and they leave it behind then that's FINE. Songs have there time and some songs miss it. It's true some songs are held back because they are being reworked - LTBL - but I don't believe for a second Noel is stockpiling these tunes for some mythical "last hurrah" album. Would be a stupid idea. I think that the majority of these tunes, such as Revolution Song/Solve My Mystery - now nearly TEN YEARS OLD - will get released on an Anthology or boxset type deal when they call it a day. |
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on Jul 28, 2008 21:07:19 GMT -5
WPTWOTWOMS is an amazing tune, but it will never be on any album - save a Master Plan II (as mentioned) or some Anthology. It's already been released.
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Post by jedimasterg on Jul 28, 2008 21:27:48 GMT -5
I myself have been thinking about this a lot. There has to be a reason for with holding these songs but putting a song like Aint Got Nothing on the new ablum. Perhaps it's out of pitty, or just to keep the peace.
One major difference between Brits and Americans is that Definitly Maybe was the ablum that made Oasis in England. Over in the US WTSMG was what made them here.
I purchased Defintinly Maybe the day it was released and played it non stop straight up until the release of WTSMG. I remember the first time i heard WTSMG i was like wow is this the same band? Instantly i fell in love with it. Today looking back i would take another WTSMG over a DM anyday.
Mainstream America wants the Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova Oasis. I'll be happy with whatever they put out but part of me wants another WTSMG so i can see Oasis back on top over here in the US again.
Anything after WTSMG might aswell not even exist to Americans. Whenever you hear Oasis on the radio it's either Wonderwall or CS. Honestly you don't even hear liveforever.
I know it's fucked up. I'm not saying i agree but it's my point of view on Oasis and America. Not saying i like it
For the record WPTWOTWOMS is one of Noel's best tunes!
final thought another WTSMG would do good in America anything else will prob flop.
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Post by caats19 on Jul 28, 2008 21:33:08 GMT -5
WPTWOTWOMS is a great great song. other ones....not so much.
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Post by shoofee on Jul 28, 2008 22:07:15 GMT -5
Yea, we could've gotten an album full of songs that we've already heard in some manner, as well as being incredibly lackluster.
Obviously, the band don't think these songs are up to snuff in their current form. STC has been recorded dozens of times (rumored) and has been in existence in some form for over 5 years now. Record Machine is not a new song either. The confidence is obviously not in these songs to put on an album, or they feel that much more strong about the new material.
Noel only sits on material when he feels he has to.
I just don't think the songs mentioned in this thread are that good. They're not stone cold Oasis classics. They may have the potential to be, but they're not as they are now. Stop the Clocks is a plodding bore. Record Machine is typical Noel M.O.R. fluff with doofy lyrics ("I wanna picture the world, and everyone inside my mouth" lol) that lacks any of the ingenuity of recent Noel tunes like TIOBI and POTQ. WPTWOT... is an alright song, but Noel gave it to the Goal movie which it fit and is fine for.
I'd rather hear an album of brand new songs that end up being shit, then hearing rehashes of songs I already know that do nothing to expand on what they already are. Many fans have called for the band to do something new soundwise for MANY years (myself included). The formula works, but it also leads to some tired monotonous crap at times, like Notorious L.4.E's posts.
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Post by GasPanic on Jul 28, 2008 22:31:01 GMT -5
If he didn't release them, they obviously aren't ready
But if/when they are released, they will be extremely different from the demo we heard, because the songs were recorded for DBTT, they just didn't make it in because they weren't right the way they were...
Its kinda like trying to put a square peg in a round hole. The songs didn't fit, that's why we didn't like them as much as expected.
Like... picture AATW on SOTSOG, with all of the weird effects like the choir and synth and drum machine shit. It doesn't fit. That's what I think happened with Record Machine and STC
But I guess "Ain't Got Nothing" was changed to fit this album
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Post by aussienoel on Jul 29, 2008 3:07:51 GMT -5
I myself have been thinking about this a lot. There has to be a reason for with holding these songs but putting a song like Aint Got Nothing on the new ablum. Perhaps it's out of pitty, or just to keep the peace. One major difference between Brits and Americans is that Definitly Maybe was the ablum that made Oasis in England. Over in the US WTSMG was what made them here. I purchased Defintinly Maybe the day it was released and played it non stop straight up until the release of WTSMG. I remember the first time i heard WTSMG i was like wow is this the same band? Instantly i fell in love with it. Today looking back i would take another WTSMG over a DM anyday. Mainstream America wants the Wonderwall and Champagne Supernova Oasis. I'll be happy with whatever they put out but part of me wants another WTSMG so i can see Oasis back on top over here in the US again. Anything after WTSMG might aswell not even exist to Americans. Whenever you hear Oasis on the radio it's either Wonderwall or CS. Honestly you don't even hear liveforever. I know it's fucked up. I'm not saying i agree but it's my point of view on Oasis and America. Not saying i like it For the record WPTWOTWOMS is one of Noel's best tunes! final thought another WTSMG would do good in America anything else will prob flop.  Its the same in Australia, but they barely even play CS. Be great seein them on top again, prob get all my mates that listen to shite music into them |
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Post by Moorish on Jul 29, 2008 7:51:36 GMT -5
Yea, we could've gotten an album full of songs that we've already heard in some manner, as well as being incredibly lackluster. Obviously, the band don't think these songs are up to snuff in their current form. STC has been recorded dozens of times (rumored) and has been in existence in some form for over 5 years now. Record Machine is not a new song either. The confidence is obviously not in these songs to put on an album, or they feel that much more strong about the new material. Noel only sits on material when he feels he has to. I just don't think the songs mentioned in this thread are that good. They're not stone cold Oasis classics. They may have the potential to be, but they're not as they are now. Stop the Clocks is a plodding bore. Record Machine is typical Noel M.O.R. fluff with doofy lyrics ("I wanna picture the world, and everyone inside my mouth" lol) that lacks any of the ingenuity of recent Noel tunes like TIOBI and POTQ. WPTWOT... is an alright song, but Noel gave it to the Goal movie which it fit and is fine for. I'd rather hear an album of brand new songs that end up being shit, then hearing rehashes of songs I already know that do nothing to expand on what they already are. Many fans have called for the band to do something new soundwise for MANY years (myself included). The formula works, but it also leads to some tired monotonous crap at times, like Notorious L.4.E's posts. Hahahahahahaha. Aside from STC being a "bore" (I think it's okay, though by no means a classic) I agree with every other sentiment in this post 1000000%. ;D |
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Post by LlAM on Jul 29, 2008 8:26:05 GMT -5
Yea, we could've gotten an album full of songs that we've already heard in some manner, as well as being incredibly lackluster. Obviously, the band don't think these songs are up to snuff in their current form. STC has been recorded dozens of times (rumored) and has been in existence in some form for over 5 years now. Record Machine is not a new song either. The confidence is obviously not in these songs to put on an album, or they feel that much more strong about the new material. Noel only sits on material when he feels he has to. I just don't think the songs mentioned in this thread are that good. They're not stone cold Oasis classics. They may have the potential to be, but they're not as they are now. Stop the Clocks is a plodding bore. Record Machine is typical Noel M.O.R. fluff with doofy lyrics ("I wanna picture the world, and everyone inside my mouth" lol) that lacks any of the ingenuity of recent Noel tunes like TIOBI and POTQ. WPTWOT... is an alright song, but Noel gave it to the Goal movie which it fit and is fine for. I'd rather hear an album of brand new songs that end up being shit, then hearing rehashes of songs I already know that do nothing to expand on what they already are. Many fans have called for the band to do something new soundwise for MANY years (myself included). The formula works, but it also leads to some tired monotonous crap at times, like Notorious L.4.E's posts. I agree 100% |
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Post by domduv87 on Jul 29, 2008 9:11:39 GMT -5
Wouldn't want another WTSMG.
Why have something the same?.
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Post by face on Jul 29, 2008 10:34:47 GMT -5
this guy has the worst taste in oasis fanboi history. wptwotwoms is an awful awful song. to even mention it in the same breath as a masterpiece like wtsmg is a crime against decency. your presence makes this board that much less enjoyable.
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Post by toiletface on Jul 29, 2008 10:48:37 GMT -5
The 3 songs mentioned in this thread are all averagely decent tunes... there's nothing great about them at all and I for one will be quite pissed off if any f them ever show up on an Oasis album..
Oasis already tried the "recreating MG" thing with Heathen Chemistry and that was a total bore fest on the whole. The fact they're taking this new direction with the heavier sounding, groove based kinda route is really exciting and I can't wait to hear how it sounds.
Jedimasterg: I don't understand the logic in wanting another MG just so they get big in the States again, you know about Oasis and you love them, so why do you need the validation that fellow Americans like them too??
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there called work in progress ie Let there be love!!!!! and saying would you want songs you already heard well guess what?
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