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Post by Robohump on Jul 26, 2008 22:25:31 GMT -5
Gem and Andy have now been in the band for almost 10 years now.....bonehead and guigys were in for 5, well I guess 8 if you start in 1991 oppossed to their first release of 1994. It has not been 10 years. And the length of time in a band is irrelevant. Look at the work Oasis has completed since they joined. Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe The Truth; two piss poor albums with 5 too many songs written by Gem Archer and Andy Bell. I'll take Definitely Maybe, What's The Story Morning Glory and Be Here Now, thanks. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jul 26, 2008 22:29:42 GMT -5
They're more a part of the band than Bonehead and Guigsy ever were; both musically and chronologically. And you're talking shite. Their songs have been better than 90% of Noel's recent efforts.
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Post by A on Jul 26, 2008 22:58:36 GMT -5
Gem and Andy have now been in the band for almost 10 years now.....bonehead and guigys were in for 5, well I guess 8 if you start in 1991 oppossed to their first release of 1994. It has not been 10 years. And the length of time in a band is irrelevant. Look at the work Oasis has completed since they joined. Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe The Truth; two piss poor albums with 5 too many songs written by Gem Archer and Andy Bell. I'll take Definitely Maybe, What's The Story Morning Glory and Be Here Now, thanks. You need to stop living on past glories, and realize that their music has changed a bit. You're never going to enjoy the new album if you go in listening to it with a closed mind. "Ah fuck, Gem, and Andy played on this song. Total shit." |
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Post by Robohump on Jul 27, 2008 0:19:22 GMT -5
It has not been 10 years. And the length of time in a band is irrelevant. Look at the work Oasis has completed since they joined. Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe The Truth; two piss poor albums with 5 too many songs written by Gem Archer and Andy Bell. I'll take Definitely Maybe, What's The Story Morning Glory and Be Here Now, thanks. You need to stop living on past glories, and realize that their music has changed a bit. You're never going to enjoy the new album if you go in listening to it with a closed mind. "Ah fuck, Gem, and Andy played on this song. Total shit." I've had a complete open mind for the past 2 albums and they have been shit (especially Andy and Gem's contributions). Having Andy Bell write Oasis songs is like having Phil Collins write Beatles songs. It's ridiculous. |
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Post by Robohump on Jul 27, 2008 0:23:13 GMT -5
It has not been 10 years. And the length of time in a band is irrelevant. Look at the work Oasis has completed since they joined. Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe The Truth; two piss poor albums with 5 too many songs written by Gem Archer and Andy Bell. I'll take Definitely Maybe, What's The Story Morning Glory and Be Here Now, thanks. You need to stop living on past glories, and realize that their music has changed a bit. You're never going to enjoy the new album if you go in listening to it with a closed mind. "Ah fuck, Gem, and Andy played on this song. Total shit." That's like saying Brian Wilson isn't a real member of the Beach Boys, but John Stamos is because Stamos has been in the band longer. Give me a break. |
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Post by 32shutout on Jul 27, 2008 0:25:49 GMT -5
Their songs have been better than 90% of Noel's recent efforts. I appreciate a lot of non-Noel stuff, but that is just ridiculous to me. Noel's songs are just as good as they've ever been imho. I think that the only non-noel songs to hold up to his quality are tuts, ktda, ggtia, and boadc. Not that i don't like all the other songs by gem and liam, they are just nowhere near as good as the stuff noel is writing, and don't deserve a place on an album. |
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Post by costello on Jul 27, 2008 5:35:38 GMT -5
Bonehead plays the guitar  ? |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jul 27, 2008 13:24:17 GMT -5
Their songs have been better than 90% of Noel's recent efforts. I appreciate a lot of non-Noel stuff, but that is just ridiculous to me. I'll give you The Hindu Times, Stop Crying Your Heart Out, and The Importance Of Being Idle. Everything else is second-best to the respective contributions made by Liam, Andy, and Gem. |
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Post by 32shutout on Jul 27, 2008 13:32:14 GMT -5
You really like hung in a bad place, better man, a bell will ring, and mos over noel's songs? I guess i just can't get into them...
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Post by l41n on Jul 27, 2008 16:26:17 GMT -5
Noel's songs are still the highlight of the two albums.
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Post by davemarchione1 on Jul 27, 2008 16:38:25 GMT -5
Keep the dream alive and a bell will ring are the 2 best songs on the last record period.
They would have made way better singles.
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Post by ugottahavefun on Jul 27, 2008 16:38:26 GMT -5
They're more a part of the band than Bonehead and Guigsy ever were; both musically and chronologically. And you're talking shite. Their songs have been better than 90% of Noel's recent efforts. Eh....No |
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Post by ugottahavefun on Jul 27, 2008 16:40:40 GMT -5
Keep the dream alive and a bell will ring are the 2 best songs on the last record period. They would have made way better singles. KTDA is almost a very good song but it just sounds horrible as does A Bell Will Ring. |
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Post by l41n on Jul 27, 2008 16:52:51 GMT -5
I think for once, with DBTT, the best songs were picked to be singles.
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Post by davemarchione1 on Jul 27, 2008 17:01:01 GMT -5
U guys are on crack.
Lyla is horrid.
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Post by davemarchione1 on Jul 27, 2008 17:13:39 GMT -5
Noel went into his archieve lyrics 2 inspire him for this record as he stated this earlier this year so I'm expecting big things.
But lyla sucks and never should have been on the last album.
Terrible lyrics and a bell will ring is a way better first single.
Its ringo starrs favourite on the album as well not that it matters but lyla is oasis worst first single of an album net 2 go let it out...another horrible tune.
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Post by jedimasterg on Jul 27, 2008 17:18:13 GMT -5
i never was a big fan of layla but they did a hell of a job playing it live. I would not say it is a horrid song but definitly was b-side material. But then again were talking about Oasis.
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Post by davemarchione1 on Jul 27, 2008 17:31:57 GMT -5
Ok a b-side is a fair deal...but first single??come on.
I would have had a bell will ring first then keep the bream alive 2nd and the importance or anything else 3rd.
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Post by davemarchione1 on Jul 27, 2008 17:39:01 GMT -5
Its a 7 outta 10 album anyway.
Just a little shy of great.
It lacks that hit that u feel like playin a couple of times a week.
For a 3 and a half year wait they better have a great fuckin album.
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Post by Elias on Jul 27, 2008 18:38:08 GMT -5
You need to stop living on past glories, and realize that their music has changed a bit. You're never going to enjoy the new album if you go in listening to it with a closed mind. "Ah fuck, Gem, and Andy played on this song. Total shit." I've had a complete open mind for the past 2 albums and they have been shit (especially Andy and Gem's contributions). Having Andy Bell write Oasis songs is like having Phil Collins write Beatles songs. It's ridiculous. You sound like one of those deranged lasses who chanted "We want Pete" at Ringo Starr in the Cavern. |
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Post by davemarchione1 on Jul 27, 2008 18:43:37 GMT -5
Its not gem and andy.
Its the band as a whole and this crappy bluesy shit they've been releasing. Drums bass and guitar.
We need the kitchen sink toss.
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on Jul 27, 2008 20:48:45 GMT -5
You need to stop living on past glories, and realize that their music has changed a bit. You're never going to enjoy the new album if you go in listening to it with a closed mind. "Ah fuck, Gem, and Andy played on this song. Total shit." That's like saying Brian Wilson isn't a real member of the Beach Boys, but John Stamos is because Stamos has been in the band longer. Give me a break. First off, if it wasn't for Gem and Andy - two actual real musicians, we all might be eagerly anticipating a Noel solo record by now, and not another Oasis. Bonehead was a nice bloke, but the band out grew him. Second, I hope that wasn't a knock against Stamos - he all deserves our respect. Two words: Rebecca Romijn... |
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Post by LlAM on Jul 28, 2008 3:39:09 GMT -5
Gem and Andy bring so much more to the band than Bonehead and Guigs did. Noel could never have pulled off an acoustic tour with Bonehead, and Laim wouldn't be half the songwriter he is if Gem didn't help him put things together.
Andys songs and immense talent on the bass take Oasis' albums to the next level.
DBTT without Turn Up The Sun, A Bell Will Ring and Keep The Dream Alive would have been a disaster.
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Post by vespa on Jul 28, 2008 3:43:51 GMT -5
noel let bonehead play on the records because bonehead was a founder member of the group,an is actually a very good rythmn guitar player,which is crucial for a band like oasis.he also played the piano parts,mellotron.he was quite important really.guigsy was a just a standard bass player,but he was good at bein that ,yeh andy an gem write songs but live they aint playin much different to what they used to be like other than that gem plays open chords which gives a lighter sound,something which i think has ruined some of the songs live
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Post by cavie on Jul 29, 2008 12:52:32 GMT -5
And Bonehead probably played Rhythm cause back in 1994 they played live in the studio. They didn't have the computer technology we have now. They would have to do multiple takes together before they got it right. 1994 not 1954! Band's haven't had to record live since the late 60's. That said I really wish Oasis would ditch the studio crap and play balls out live rock n' roll a la Definitely Maybe. Fingers crossed for Dig Your Own Soul. Respect The Bone, he's a bloody good guitar player, don't believe all the bad mouthing he got when he was sacked. Gem's underated and has written some bloody good tunes. Guigs wasn't amazing but then neither's Andrew Bell (how many times does he want to do that same little fill high up the neck?!!) Not a big fan of his songs myself but I'm sure he brings a lot to recording. I would probably rather he quit and reformed Ride though! |
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