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Post by mrmonkey on Jul 21, 2008 13:16:34 GMT -5
Louise does great scanning articles and stuff so apologise mate cos your out of order
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Post by davemarchione1 on Jul 21, 2008 13:25:24 GMT -5
What the phuk are yall talkin about.
I think the riddler is a pussy
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Post by ashleigh on Jul 21, 2008 14:15:46 GMT -5
Have you heard the album? Or are you just saying this based on what we know already? Please clear up the 'Aint got Nothing' confusion if you know anything!  I have not heard the full album, Aint Got Nothing is one of the songs I don't know much about sorry, I'm as much in the dark about it as you. I do know the Chemical brothers remix is also not the album version. But thats a no-brainer  so lets get one thing straight you have heard some of the album? |
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Post by nyr401994 on Jul 21, 2008 20:39:27 GMT -5
i hope it doesn't leak. you guys will play the songs over and over and over again and all be sick of the songs by the time it's officially released. i guarantee it.
oh, and the sales thing too. if you guys want oasis back on the charts, pray that it doesn't leak.
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Post by djbrades on Jul 21, 2008 21:26:40 GMT -5
how about they just push up the release date?
a leak is INEVITABLE these days, pretty much for any album. you can't pass free copies around to radio stations or critics and trust them.
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Post by twoface on Jul 21, 2008 22:32:11 GMT -5
The first single will leak by the weekend
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Post by Mogly on Jul 21, 2008 22:33:27 GMT -5
^^^^^
have you heard it? anyrhing new you can tell us about it?
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Post by twoface on Jul 21, 2008 22:56:09 GMT -5
My fellow riddler followers thìs is twoface and I'm hear 2 let you know that the first single will leak by this weekend...
Enjoy.
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Post by anthmcc on Jul 21, 2008 23:04:34 GMT -5
My fellow riddler followers thìs is twoface and I'm hear 2 let you know that the first single will leak by this weekend... Enjoy. Aaaahh! I remember when peeps used to get Karma for sharing music, now they get it for sharing rumors apparently. When Saturday comes.... |
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Post by djbrades on Jul 21, 2008 23:12:13 GMT -5
My fellow riddler followers thìs is twoface and I'm hear 2 let you know that the first single will leak by this weekend... Enjoy. more batman villains huh? i bet we'll get a user named 'penguin' before the single leaks |
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Post by Mogly on Jul 21, 2008 23:14:17 GMT -5
the penguin was my favorite batman villain...
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Post by shoofee on Jul 22, 2008 2:23:28 GMT -5
i hope it doesn't leak. you guys will play the songs over and over and over again and all be sick of the songs by the time it's officially released. i guarantee it. oh, and the sales thing too. if you guys want oasis back on the charts, pray that it doesn't leak. Enough of the chicken little bullshit. Did a leak of HC and DBTT stop it from charting? DBTT was a top fifteen (12) album in the states the week it was released, almost a full month after the leak which was their best position since BHN hit #2. It still hit #1 in the UK both times. The band were dead in the water in terms of the US market with HC and had virtually no promotion, not to mention it was poorly received critically for the most part. Leaks do not have a massive impact on sales to the effect that some people claim. Did it affect Coldplay's chart status? What if the release date was tomorrow, would we (seeing as you seem to be able to know how everyones listening habits will pan out) be sick of it by October 6th? If its a great album, I can tell you I'll still be listening to it, just as I still listen to DM weekly and have for over 10 years. Face it. It's going to leak. Period. The only question is when. Deluding yourself that its not only brings about disappointment to those thinking that way when it finally does. |
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Jul 22, 2008 2:41:17 GMT -5
Louise is definitely a reliable source, so stop bitching about it... oh and OF COURSE THAT STC IT'S NOT A HIDDEN TRACK. deal with it. Well, she said it was, not me |
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Jul 22, 2008 2:45:19 GMT -5
Louise (turtle) is full of shit. She knows certain things and don´t want to share them with all of you, in the same style of that lomax vagina. Also, she is lying on some other things just to have notoriety. Don´t believe her. Were you not the guy who posted the demos a few weeks ago claiming they were Oasis so to say i'm full of shit is a bit rich. Erm i didn´t claim nothing, the info about the demos appeared in some other forum (stoptheclocks maybe, or the soapbox, im not sure) and i pasted it here with a renaldo koemen photograph. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 22, 2008 7:26:12 GMT -5
i hope it doesn't leak. you guys will play the songs over and over and over again and all be sick of the songs by the time it's officially released. i guarantee it. oh, and the sales thing too. if you guys want oasis back on the charts, pray that it doesn't leak. Enough of the chicken little bullshit. Did a leak of HC and DBTT stop it from charting? DBTT was a top fifteen (12) album in the states the week it was released, almost a full month after the leak which was their best position since BHN hit #2. It still hit #1 in the UK both times. The band were dead in the water in terms of the US market with HC and had virtually no promotion, not to mention it was poorly received critically for the most part. Leaks do not have a massive impact on sales to the effect that some people claim. Did it affect Coldplay's chart status? What if the release date was tomorrow, would we (seeing as you seem to be able to know how everyones listening habits will pan out) be sick of it by October 6th? If its a great album, I can tell you I'll still be listening to it, just as I still listen to DM weekly and have for over 10 years. Face it. It's going to leak. Period. The only question is when. Deluding yourself that its not only brings about disappointment to those thinking that way when it finally does. Agree with you completley! I also don't understand how listening to a leaked album ruins the album? - The songs still sound the same! And you're right, if it's a good album, you wont tire of it. The best part is when you hear a mega song for the first time - I truly did get a head rush when RM leaked, and that's what it's all about. As I stated in my other thread, if you don't listen to the leaks, you miss out - it's so much fun discussing and reviewing songs on here with your fellow Oasis fans that if you wait until the official release instead, you wont be able to partake....... Whenever the songs are available, I say relax, grab a couple stellas, blast the tracks through good quality headphones or speakers, and come on this forum and express how mega sounding the tunes are. |
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Post by anthmcc on Jul 22, 2008 8:10:53 GMT -5
There is actually very little correlation in leaks specifically hurting album sales. Someone eager enough to track down a leak is probably avid enough to buy the record anyway. It's P2P networks and counterfeit copies that hurt album sales. Neither of which can be avoided. As soon as an album is released, you can find it on any P2P network. You can't control that anymore.
Only record labels talk about hurting album sales these days. It really doesn't hit the artist, it hits the fat pompous tosser who sits behind a desk all day.
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Jul 22, 2008 8:12:30 GMT -5
that attitude is precisely what noel talked about with steve jones during the indie103 interview.
these days kids store everything on their ipods and have no sense for traditional ways of being presented with new music. fave songs from albums are cherry picked and downloaded. the whole concept behind an album is not as important when everything is stripped to a couple of mp3s with a .jpg cover on top.
only a minority is hanging out in record shops judging, for example, by the cover whether they're going to expand their physical record collection with a certain album.
this may sound stupid to us and i'm not ultimately condemning it since i'm part of it all the way but that's the way it was and testdriving everything illegally, cos that's what downloading leaks truthfully speaking is, clashes with the odlschool way of approaching recorded music.
record sales are declining and illegal downloading plays a part there. nobody says the average oasis fan is not gonna buy the new album regardless of whether he/she thinks of the leaks but what about the average foo fighters fan? the 48 year old radiohead fan? average guitar music aficionados that go to gigs and all that but welcome the chance to get an album from other act for free.
illegal downloading does hurt record sales and it still ruines the listening experience and the joy for some.
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Post by shoofee on Jul 22, 2008 8:33:13 GMT -5
There's a flipside that no one is looking at.
What about the wide variety of people who liked Oasis in the past and fell out of like with them, the ones that dont know them etc, or the Radiohead fan, Foo Fighters (more likely than not a Foo fan respects Oasis than not). The album leaks and everyone raves about it, they give it a shot on a leak and love it and go out and buy it. There will ALWAYS be a segment of people who wont buy it at all, but theres also sales they'd never of gotten otherwise. Theres literally dozens of albums I'd never even know about or care about had I not downloaded them illegally at first.
This is a silly conversation. Its a safe assumption that 99% of the people that visit this board regularly are going to buy it.
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Jul 22, 2008 8:57:25 GMT -5
i dont have statistical data to disprove one or the other possibility so i was just sharing my assumption. yes there's a basis for both claims and as of now i cannot tell which accounts more for the truth.
i just believe in people's laziness more..maybe i should draw attention to the average 14 year old kid, lol. massive anticipation and positive reviews would attract him to buy oasis but why bother when there's rapidshare. what i'm alluding to here is once you start the whole (illegal) download business you're likely not gonna turn into a regular record buyer
and i dont think that's a marginal phenomenon.
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Post by webm@ster on Jul 22, 2008 9:47:09 GMT -5
When the whole file down loading craze started a west coast label ( darn if I can remember which one ) offered one of it's artist's new albums as a free download weeks ahead of the release of the album ( we are talking years before the radio head stunt) I believe the stats showed that 95% of the down loaders also wanted to own and purchase the physical cd when it came out.
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Post by start at the end on Jul 22, 2008 10:04:15 GMT -5
If someone actually believes illegal downloading has had either a neglible or positive effect on album sales, there's no sense in arguing with them.
Don't debate with idiots, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience every time.
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Post by start at the end on Jul 22, 2008 10:05:42 GMT -5
There is actually very little correlation in leaks specifically hurting album sales. Someone eager enough to track down a leak is probably avid enough to buy the record anyway. It's P2P networks and counterfeit copies that hurt album sales. Neither of which can be avoided. As soon as an album is released, you can find it on any P2P network. You can't control that anymore. Only record labels talk about hurting album sales these days. It really doesn't hit the artist, it hits the fat pompous tosser who sits behind a desk all day. Please tell me you don't actually believe this? my god. |
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Post by start at the end on Jul 22, 2008 10:12:41 GMT -5
i hope it doesn't leak. you guys will play the songs over and over and over again and all be sick of the songs by the time it's officially released. i guarantee it. oh, and the sales thing too. if you guys want oasis back on the charts, pray that it doesn't leak. Enough of the chicken little bullshit. Did a leak of HC and DBTT stop it from charting? DBTT was a top fifteen (12) album in the states the week it was released, almost a full month after the leak which was their best position since BHN hit #2. It still hit #1 in the UK both times. The band were dead in the water in terms of the US market with HC and had virtually no promotion, not to mention it was poorly received critically for the most part. Leaks do not have a massive impact on sales to the effect that some people claim. Did it affect Coldplay's chart status? What if the release date was tomorrow, would we (seeing as you seem to be able to know how everyones listening habits will pan out) be sick of it by October 6th? If its a great album, I can tell you I'll still be listening to it, just as I still listen to DM weekly and have for over 10 years. Face it. It's going to leak. Period. The only question is when. Deluding yourself that its not only brings about disappointment to those thinking that way when it finally does. Album sales are down nearly 40% in the last 5 years...this INLCLUDES legal downloading. Of course the worlds biggest acts STILL top the charts. Duh. Everything being equal, of course they will continue to sell the most lp's legally. That has absolutely nothing to do with the MILLIONS of copies that are stolen and NEVER legally obtained. What kind of dream-world do you people live in? Is it just blind ignorance, or some type of bizarre, self-justification for stealing copyright-protected media? |
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Post by idledreamer on Jul 22, 2008 10:18:14 GMT -5
IMO... if bands/artists want more people to start BUYING their music, instead of downloading off of p2p's then they should actually start putting out some quality material for a change, , instead of filling an album w/ 2 radio singles + 10-12 tracks of useless junk
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Post by start at the end on Jul 22, 2008 10:29:37 GMT -5
IMO... if bands/artists want more people to start BUYING their music, instead of downloading off of p2p's then they should actually start putting out some quality material for a change, , instead of filling an album w/ 2 radio singles + 10-12 tracks of useless junk There are a myriad of never-before-seen options to download media legally. This includes the option to buy INDIVIDUAL songs from itunes, amazon, etc. this is a terribly empty argument. |
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