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Post by supersonic8587 on Apr 18, 2008 9:55:54 GMT -5
I didn't get into Oasis until after DBTT either so I obviously have higher expectations for this album than for any other. I think Oasis need just one song to be released so that people stand up and take notice of them again like they did in the mid 90s. While they'll never be that popular again, if they can at least get people to listen to the rest of the album, in America anyway, then I think this will be a greater success than anything since WTSMG?
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Post by Poshbird05 on Apr 18, 2008 10:00:18 GMT -5
I think it will take more than one hit to recreate what they had in the 90's, that being said this album will not do that. I'm looking at it as more of a treat for fans, maybe SOTSOG done right?
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Post by brumoscardo on Apr 18, 2008 10:48:08 GMT -5
It's obvisouly not gonna be a pop album so it won't hit the charts all over the world. The bottom line is: - They'll never fuck this album up, so it is gonna be a classic and - They're gonna sell out every gig next tour.
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Post by supersonic8587 on Apr 18, 2008 11:10:10 GMT -5
Yeah if It's SOTSOG without shit filler (Little James) I'll be more than happy.
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Post by mercury3164 on Apr 18, 2008 11:15:58 GMT -5
Yeah if It's SOTSOG with shit filter (Little James) I'll be more than happy.
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Post by bwilder on Apr 18, 2008 11:31:05 GMT -5
BIG album... in every way. Honestly speaking, I'm expecting their best album since Morning Glory. From what I hear about this album, it's everything I love about Oasis. Can't wait!
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Post by dearprudence on Apr 18, 2008 12:13:19 GMT -5
Take me to the station And put me on a train I've got no expectations To pass through here again
Once I was a rich man and Now I am so poor But never in my sweet short life Have I felt like this before
You heart is like a diamond You throw your pearls at swine And as I watch you leaving me You pack my peace of mind
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Post by brumoscardo on Apr 18, 2008 17:34:40 GMT -5
Take me to the station And put me on a train I've got no expectations To pass through here again Once I was a rich man and Now I am so poor But never in my sweet short life Have I felt like this before You heart is like a diamond You throw your pearls at swine And as I watch you leaving me You pack my peace of mind What?
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Post by dearprudence on Apr 18, 2008 21:58:16 GMT -5
just remembered that stones song no expectations,,, had to put it mate ;D
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Post by dearprudence on Apr 18, 2008 21:59:49 GMT -5
and no.. i was not on drugs while i put it
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Post by GasPanic on Apr 20, 2008 12:42:49 GMT -5
Track 5 or 6 will be the weakest track on the album
There will be reviews across spanning from "10/10, best album to date, Oasis is back at the top" to "3/10, weakest effort yet"
All of us will think its kick ass
It will bring Oasis back into the spotlight a bit
It will sell better than DBTT in the USA
I'll buy it and listen to it twice a day for a week
It's first single will be a pretty kick-ass song
There will be maybe 2 or 3 songs like "Thank You For The Good Times" or "Magic Pie," slower, but still a bit rockish
It will win album of the year
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Post by Rasto on Apr 20, 2008 13:17:42 GMT -5
My only expection is that I will like that album
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Apr 20, 2008 13:47:00 GMT -5
I'm usually not one to set the bar too high out of fear of disappointment, but I'm expecting nothing short of a classic. And not something the critics considering classic, but something WE consider a classic.
What I better NOT see: 1- More than 2 fillers 2- Liam unable to match his voice on DBTT 3- Continued lack of guitar solos 4- Noel singing his songs just cause they're HIS songs. If it sounds better with Liam, let Liam sing it (a.k.a Mucky Fingers, LDSMD) 5- Songs that only revolve around the words "shine", "star", and "maybe"
That's just what I personally believe is necessary for them to "blow us away" again. I'm also really looking foward to them bringing the psychedelic rock feel back. Songs like "Gas Panic", FITB and "Roll It Over" are some of their best, but it's just the album they were on really drags them through the mud. So like I said, I'm usually not the type of person who gets their hopes up, but I'm expecting an album I'll never forget.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Apr 24, 2008 3:56:01 GMT -5
I expect it will be in the same vein as Don't Believe The Truth. There will be one of two classics on there, the rest will be pretty dull and easily forgettable. Partly, I think, this is down to the production and, having heard what Dave Sardy did on the last album, I think it was a big mistake going with him again. Oasis need a producer and mixer who will bring back the immediacy and urgency that Owen Morris brought to Definitely Maybe. I've been sent the new Pigeon Detectives album (they're a UK band, you may or may not have heard of them) and there is a real energy and aggression in the production. Their record was produced by Stephen Street and mixed by Cenzo Townsend and those guys have done a fantastic job. Noel should have chosen them for the new Oasis album rather than Sardy because it all just sounded a bit tired and boring on the last album. Sardy gives it a bit of an American feel and that just doesn't really work for Oasis in my opinion. I'm sure that's what Noel was looking for - and it doesn't help that Liam's voice is fcuked - but they should just strip it right down and make it more direct. Liam shouldn't be allowed to indulge his Lennon obsession any more, take off the double tracked vocals and give us the Oasis we knew and loved back in '94.
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Post by idledreamer on Apr 26, 2008 2:36:45 GMT -5
my (HONEST) expectations:
-album will have a few really strong tracks (probably three) that will stand out , but as a whole the album won't be as consistantly as good as DBTT
-it will sound much like SOTSOG but will be far better than SOTSOG
-Stop The Clocks will not be on the album, , however Record machine WILL be on it, it will be the closer and will be viewed by many to be the best track on the album
-chart position and sales not quite as good as DBTT (at least in the US anyway)
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Post by 32shutout on Apr 26, 2008 12:53:43 GMT -5
I expect it will be in the same vein as Don't Believe The Truth. There will be one of two classics on there, the rest will be pretty dull and easily forgettable. Partly, I think, this is down to the production and, having heard what Dave Sardy did on the last album, I think it was a big mistake going with him again. Oasis need a producer and mixer who will bring back the immediacy and urgency that Owen Morris brought to Definitely Maybe. I've been sent the new Pigeon Detectives album (they're a UK band, you may or may not have heard of them) and there is a real energy and aggression in the production. Their record was produced by Stephen Street and mixed by Cenzo Townsend and those guys have done a fantastic job. Noel should have chosen them for the new Oasis album rather than Sardy because it all just sounded a bit tired and boring on the last album. Sardy gives it a bit of an American feel and that just doesn't really work for Oasis in my opinion. I'm sure that's what Noel was looking for - and it doesn't help that Liam's voice is fcuked - but they should just strip it right down and make it more direct. Liam shouldn't be allowed to indulge his Lennon obsession any more, take off the double tracked vocals and give us the Oasis we knew and loved back in '94. I agree. When you listen to DM - BHN, and then you listen to Sotsog - DBTT, the later albums sound so bland- and its not just the songs. The production in the first three albums could almost be described as colorful, with the later albums just sounding sort of empty
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Post by novascotialad on Apr 26, 2008 13:51:03 GMT -5
i agree totally with that... fuck trying to understate everything in the studio... i want it to sound like its coming outta 100 5000 watt speakers no matter where i'm listening to it... out of the last 3 albums, i think they only tune that matches that early era sound is 'the hindu times'... that rocks a bit.
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Post by Smige on Apr 26, 2008 14:01:14 GMT -5
I agree. I hope that changes with this album as Noel said he wants to "throw the kitchen sink in".
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Post by oasis6 on Apr 26, 2008 17:41:11 GMT -5
DBTT was consistently solid, but was missing that one belter song to put the album over the top.
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Post by mercury3164 on Apr 26, 2008 23:53:15 GMT -5
if this album is no better and no worse the DBTT i'll be way more than happy.
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Post by adamhannah on Apr 27, 2008 2:39:26 GMT -5
i don't know why everyone has to be so critical of them. their absolute worst album since definitly maybe, whichever you may feel it is, is better than any of the other rubbish put out by anyone else. whether you think sotsog is shit or hc or bhn or dbtt or all four, they are ALL fantastic albums and yes not as good as definitly maybe but come on, they are timeless records. i'm just as excited for this record as ever and am ready for some new material. they are the best band in the world still and im confident that this record will be great again. as for all those critics who constantly put them down, who gives a fuck? Heathen Chemistry timeless? I mean, i like and all. But seriously? Timeless means a great piece of musical achievement, not a mid career low point by a great band. People aren't really that critical of Oasis. Its just if you read pitchfork and co. And even their review of Stop the Clocks was very positive. There are great albums being put out every week by other artists mate, you just obviously have no idea where to look. I say start with Kasabian and work your way up.
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Post by Cast on Apr 27, 2008 10:24:08 GMT -5
I'm gonna defend Sardy. His production with DBTT was very good. All the songs had a great feel and mix with them. I wonder what he'll do next with this new album. Owen Morris was a great rockin and roll producer. All his albums are in your face. DM's production was great. MG was not the best of production but because of this is sounds like an older album (it doesn't sound like its from the 90s production wise.) and i love that album for that reason. Be Here Now gets a lot of slack for its over production (mainly in part to Morris lack of ability to stand up to Noel but who would stand up the songwriter of the biggest band on the plant) I love all the insane guitars in Be Here Now sums up the band at that point and in a way that is beauty. SOTSOG also had solid production. The guitars are clear you can hear them with out all the excess production. The loops worked with all the songs. The drums never sounded better on any oasis album. HC was just plain dull. The production is probably why its my least favorite Oasis album. Its just dull. Songs like "Hung In A Bad Place" could have been a hell of a lot rocker than they were same with "The Hindu Times".
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Post by themanwithnoname on Apr 28, 2008 4:32:30 GMT -5
Owen Morris made a balls of Be Here Now but I think you're right when you say Noel was as much to blame as anyone for that. Since he left there's been no wow factor to the production and it's meant the records have sounded bland. Just hope on the new one that they've turned Liam and the drums up for a f*cking change - that's as good a place to start as any.
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Post by ducci on Apr 30, 2008 10:54:09 GMT -5
expect nothing and you will never be dissapointed
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 30, 2008 17:32:42 GMT -5
expect nothing and you will never be dissapointed Negative. if you expect nothing, and the thing turns out to be harmful, then you'll be disappointed Rather, expect the worst and hope for the best
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