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Post by webm@ster on Jan 2, 2008 15:04:05 GMT -5
Q magazine 2008 Preview
Oasis: The Pitch - Everything turned up to II. Noel Gallagher is living out his Burt Bacharach fantasies, talking up the successor to 2005's career - steadying Don't Believe The Truth as "colossal" and "60s sounding", complete with "100-piece orchestras and choirs". One song, I Wanna Live In A Dream In My Record Machine is a 10-minute psychedelic epic.
Producer Dave Sardy is back on board for sessions at London's Abbey Road studios. But while the band may be label-less, don't expect them to do a Radiohead - Liam Gallagher has said they'll give away the album "over my dead
body".
We Say - The last album was a return to form. Gallagher senior has his confidence back.
ETA - May
thanks scyho
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Post by start at the end on Jan 2, 2008 17:50:10 GMT -5
just gritting my teeth over a "ten minute epic"
could be hugely fantastic or "all around the world" part 2.
sequels are worse 90% of the time.
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Post by ash on Jan 2, 2008 18:26:38 GMT -5
as "colossal" and "60s sounding", complete with "100-piece orchestras and choirs". One song, I Wanna Live In A Dream In My Record Machine is a 10-minute psychedelic epic. wow, sounds crap |
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Post by seanppp on Jan 2, 2008 19:28:51 GMT -5
He's been talking about this song for years. I doubt it'll be any good. And what a long song title, too!
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Post by Columbus Egg on Jan 2, 2008 19:39:52 GMT -5
The title of that song sounds so dang Verve-ish he should've just sold it to them behind closed doors, but I really like it.
For a good psychedelic song, he was too wasted when he gave us AATW, now he might be too old and sober. But, maybe this time there's patience and care behind it. Keep waiting.
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Post by Frodis on Jan 2, 2008 19:43:41 GMT -5
not surprised if the new album is geared more towards psychedellica. that's all they were listening to (think of the Nuggets collection. There's a lot of stuff in there that they've been borrowing from.. Just as long as they stay away from making any of the songs sound like WFL because, IMHO, that song is shit. the version of Record Machine I heard was a stripped down demo. Noel & a guitar. It will be interesting to hear where he/they take it. But the ETA May date is fucking awesome. Better than August anyday.  |
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Post by Marcos on Jan 2, 2008 21:51:58 GMT -5
not surprised if the new album is geared more towards psychedellica. that's all they were listening to (think of the Nuggets collection. There's a lot of stuff in there that they've been borrowing from.. Just as long as they stay away from making any of the songs sound like WFL because, IMHO, that song is shit. the version of Record Machine I heard was a stripped down demo. Noel & a guitar. It will be interesting to hear where he/they take it. But the ETA May date is fucking awesome. Better than August anyday. you have heard a demo version of 'I want to live in a dream in my record machine'? when, how? that's amazing is the song good? |
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Post by Frodis on Jan 2, 2008 23:26:27 GMT -5
not surprised if the new album is geared more towards psychedellica. that's all they were listening to (think of the Nuggets collection. There's a lot of stuff in there that they've been borrowing from.. Just as long as they stay away from making any of the songs sound like WFL because, IMHO, that song is shit. the version of Record Machine I heard was a stripped down demo. Noel & a guitar. It will be interesting to hear where he/they take it. But the ETA May date is fucking awesome. Better than August anyday. you have heard a demo version of 'I want to live in a dream in my record machine'? when, how? that's amazing is the song good? in 2006 at their Cincinnati show afterparty. Can't really say too much else about it cos it was just an acoustic demo with Noel singing. And if I remember, Noel seemed kinda embarrassed about it coming up on the ipod. ;D |
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Post by kenneth on Jan 2, 2008 23:55:30 GMT -5
you have heard a demo version of 'I want to live in a dream in my record machine'? when, how? that's amazing is the song good? in 2006 at their Cincinnati show afterparty. Can't really say too much else about it cos it was just an acoustic demo with Noel singing. And if I remember, Noel seemed kinda embarrassed about it coming up on the ipod. ;D Thats cool If you really have heard it. Did it sound like a song that could've gone on for ten minutes though? And did it have a catchy melody? This song has been known for years, so it'll be interesting to see if it finally make it on the new album. |
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Post by iiclisoy on Jan 3, 2008 0:26:54 GMT -5
this song is gonna be amazing. although i cant imagine it being better than AATW. that was just bloated indulgent overproduced PERFECTION.
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Post by calioasis on Jan 3, 2008 1:27:56 GMT -5
At first I was thinking...if Noel isn't doing any drugs a 10 minute psychedelic song is going to be awful. Those songs just don't work without some kind of mind expander. However I really dug some of the more 'psychedelic' stuff off of Giants, Roll it Over, Who Feels Love, Gas Panic and as far as I know he was sober for those. I'll give it a shot. As a Be Here Now fan (not the album as a whole but the individual songs), if it's surrounded by some good 3 minute songs it might work. As long as there is no 4 minute magic pie style outro making it 10 minutes that could work.
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Post by Frodis on Jan 3, 2008 1:46:58 GMT -5
in 2006 at their Cincinnati show afterparty. Can't really say too much else about it cos it was just an acoustic demo with Noel singing. And if I remember, Noel seemed kinda embarrassed about it coming up on the ipod. ;D Thats cool If you really have heard it. Did it sound like a song that could've gone on for ten minutes though? And did it have a catchy melody? This song has been known for years, so it'll be interesting to see if it finally make it on the new album. I *have* really heard it. I have my passes from the show if you don't believe me  like i said before, from what i recall, it was just a simple demo with Noel singing and a guitar. Not much else than that. Can't tell you much else because it's been almost a year and a half since I heard it. I wish I could tell you all more but that's all I can honestly recall.  |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Jan 3, 2008 4:31:53 GMT -5
My major concern is that they're trying to be 'psychedelic' for the sake of it, because they think it's cool, a bit different to what they've done before and, most important of all, because The Beatles did it.
They tried to do it on stuff like Magic Pie to cover up the fact that deep down it was substandard material, likewise Who Feels Love. I can't bring myself to listen to their cover of Within You and Without You from that Radio 1 album because it's nothing more than an embarrassing pastiche.
Oasis are at their best when they are writing Oasis tunes - they should have more faith in their own identity rather than trying to ape other bands' sounds or adopting musical styles just for the sake of it.
Still, we'll find out in May if that Q article is accurate, although I wouldn't bank on it seeing as it's blatantly just a hastily cobbled together couple of paragraphs from quotes that have been out there for ages.
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Post by StepOut on Jan 3, 2008 7:05:20 GMT -5
as "colossal" and "60s sounding", complete with "100-piece orchestras and choirs". One song, I Wanna Live In A Dream In My Record Machine is a 10-minute psychedelic epic. wow, sounds crap All Around the World Part II? |
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Post by Coke on Jan 3, 2008 7:15:05 GMT -5
as "colossal" and "60s sounding", complete with "100-piece orchestras and choirs". One song, I Wanna Live In A Dream In My Record Machine is a 10-minute psychedelic epic. wow, sounds crap  ...sounds great!..  ..I can't wait .. |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Jan 3, 2008 7:49:17 GMT -5
All Around the World Part II? Surely they couldn't make that mistake a second time, could they? |
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Post by No Way Sis on Jan 3, 2008 9:45:08 GMT -5
who cares if its psychedelic, doubt it could spoil it too much. he's had the song for ages so the chords and melody will stay the same and thats all that reali matters.
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Post by kenneth on Jan 3, 2008 10:22:05 GMT -5
All Around the World Part II? Surely they couldn't make that mistake a second time, could they? Mistake? What are you on about, mate? Do you mean the instrumental at the end of Be Here Now? Because I don't think All Around The World is crap. Just like iiclisoy said: All Around The World is just bloated indulgent overproduced PERFECTION! I love it! In fact, if I Wanna Live My Life In A Record Machine sounds like something in between All Around The World and Champagne Supernova with loads of guitars and a huge orchestra, I would be really happy!!!! But a different taste for each one of us I guess. |
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Post by nyr401994 on Jan 3, 2008 20:12:51 GMT -5
My major concern is that they're trying to be 'psychedelic' for the sake of it, because they think it's cool, a bit different to what they've done before and, most important of all, because The Beatles did it. They tried to do it on stuff like Magic Pie to cover up the fact that deep down it was substandard material, likewise Who Feels Love. I can't bring myself to listen to their cover of Within You and Without You from that Radio 1 album because it's nothing more than an embarrassing pastiche. Oasis are at their best when they are writing Oasis tunes - they should have more faith in their own identity rather than trying to ape other bands' sounds or adopting musical styles just for the sake of it. Still, we'll find out in May if that Q article is accurate, although I wouldn't bank on it seeing as it's blatantly just a hastily cobbled together couple of paragraphs from quotes that have been out there for ages. amen! ye shall be exalted! |
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Post by iiclisoy on Jan 3, 2008 21:21:10 GMT -5
My major concern is that they're trying to be 'psychedelic' for the sake of it, because they think it's cool, a bit different to what they've done before and, most important of all, because The Beatles did it. They tried to do it on stuff like Magic Pie to cover up the fact that deep down it was substandard material, likewise Who Feels Love. I can't bring myself to listen to their cover of Within You and Without You from that Radio 1 album because it's nothing more than an embarrassing pastiche. Oasis are at their best when they are writing Oasis tunes - they should have more faith in their own identity rather than trying to ape other bands' sounds or adopting musical styles just for the sake of it. Still, we'll find out in May if that Q article is accurate, although I wouldn't bank on it seeing as it's blatantly just a hastily cobbled together couple of paragraphs from quotes that have been out there for ages. I think all the 'psychedelic' stuff is really good. Gas Panic and who feels love were amazing and i think oasis used that 'genre' if you will really well. i dont think that they would just do something because the beatles did it and other than ripping off a few riffs, i personally dont think that theyve ever tried to ape another band's sound. however, within you without you was dreadful, mostly because it wasnt a great song to begin with, i know that will upset some beatles fans. i still havent forgiven liam for not choosing 'a day in the life'. they wouldve done it brilliantly, unlike carl and pete who werent very good. |
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Post by ozfan2 on Jan 4, 2008 5:57:08 GMT -5
Sounds horrible, 'psychedelic is bad enough but 60's sounding itakes the biscuit. Please no. I can't stand psychedelic or 60's music yukk.
Is this going to be the oasis album I don't go and buy on the first day of release.
Major major worries here.
I agree why do they insist on trying to be a bad copy of some lame old 'rawk an rawl' band when they mad an album so timeless and NEW like DM?? DM was like nothing else I have ever heard or heard since. oasis please just go and be oasis not linnard skinnard or something.
I had the LDSMD DVD for Christmas and was it boring and tedious. That title song was plodding and crap. Sorry I don't blame oasis for the DVD but that Ballie Walsh guy, it was nothing more than a home video, I could have done better.
Secretly though I think this album will be IT. oasis are full of surprises. When they say the next album is going to be the next seargent pepper they make a so so one, this new one on the face of it sounds horrendous so I'm hoping for the opposite....
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jan 4, 2008 15:52:01 GMT -5
Sounds horrible, 'psychedelic is bad enough but 60's sounding itakes the biscuit. Please no. I can't stand psychedelic or 60's music yukk. Is this going to be the oasis album I don't go and buy on the first day of release. Major major worries here. I agree why do they insist on trying to be a bad copy of some lame old 'rawk an rawl' band when they mad an album so timeless and NEW like DM?? DM was like nothing else I have ever heard or heard since. oasis please just go and be oasis not linnard skinnard or something. I had the LDSMD DVD for Christmas and was it boring and tedious. That title song was plodding and crap. Sorry I don't blame oasis for the DVD but that Ballie Walsh guy, it was nothing more than a home video, I could have done better. Secretly though I think this album will be IT. oasis are full of surprises. When they say the next album is going to be the next seargent pepper they make a so so one, this new one on the face of it sounds horrendous so I'm hoping for the opposite.... I can't understand why so many people feel like this. Why would you not want your favorite band to evolve and try new things? It's boring to put out the same old crap all the time. They're a different band now...New drummer, older, more mature, plus Liam's voice is now very close to being completely shot (very anxious to hear how he sounds in 08). And why do they have be "copying" other bands just because they're adding some psychedelic tunes to this album supposedly? The Masterplan is psychedelic and that's one of their best songs...Champagne Supernova, Let's All Make Believe, Little By Little, DYKWIM, Gas Panic, Roll It Over, The Cage...all awesome songs, and all psychedelic. Give it a chance will ya? |
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Post by ozfan2 on Jan 4, 2008 16:38:15 GMT -5
I do want oasis to try NEW things, make no mistake. But psychedelic and 60's sounding sounds like it was done 40 years ago to me. Since BHN (the last GREAT oasis CD in my opinion) oasis have sounded "psychedelic and 60's sounding". DBTT wasn't so bad (thanks to some great Noels songs as well as the underrated TUTS and ABWR both by the new guys who should get more of an airing I think) . I Would love them to do something as ambitious and futuristic as say MUSE or radiohead (in rainbows is a masterpiece) are doing, not backward looking retro rock music. Progress yes, but make a NEW sound no one has heard before not try and ape the 60's AGAIN.
They are my favourite band and I will of course buy the new CD as soon as it comes out .
I don't really know what the definition of psychedellic is but to me The Masterplan doesn't fit that definition. Who Feels Love (dreadful and plodding, I'm usually asleep at the end of it ) is psychedellic I reckon.
I agree oasis should have more confidence in THEIR sound, Bring back Owen Thomas. Dave Sardy ummm, never liked his sound (Wolfmother, JET both as retro as they come) . Time will tell- I am sure I will be impressed though, it's just me having a whinge as I personally loathe 60's sounding music especially if its psychedellic ...
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jan 4, 2008 21:25:48 GMT -5
I do want oasis to try NEW things, make no mistake. But psychedelic and 60's sounding sounds like it was done 40 years ago to me. Since BHN (the last GREAT oasis CD in my opinion) oasis have sounded "psychedelic and 60's sounding". DBTT wasn't so bad (thanks to some great Noels songs as well as the underrated TUTS and ABWR both by the new guys who should get more of an airing I think) . I Would love them to do something as ambitious and futuristic as say MUSE or radiohead (in rainbows is a masterpiece) are doing, not backward looking retro rock music. Progress yes, but make a NEW sound no one has heard before not try and ape the 60's AGAIN. They are my favourite band and I will of course buy the new CD as soon as it comes out . I don't really know what the definition of psychedellic is but to me The Masterplan doesn't fit that definition. Who Feels Love (dreadful and plodding, I'm usually asleep at the end of it ) is psychedellic I reckon. I agree oasis should have more confidence in THEIR sound, Bring back Owen Thomas. Dave Sardy ummm, never liked his sound (Wolfmother, JET both as retro as they come) . Time will tell- I am sure I will be impressed though, it's just me having a whinge as I personally loathe 60's sounding music especially if its psychedellic ... Well first of all, his name is Owen Morris, not Thomas. And as far as The Masterplan goes...An orchestra, backwards guitar, distorted vocals in the outro...how is that not psychedelic? Anyway that's just being petty it doesn't matter. As far as your point, I respect it but I couldn't disagree more. So they aren't the Beatles of 1967 and won't try to revolutionize music...get over it, they never have been that type of band and they never will be. They've never been about being innovative...so why do you expect them to all of a sudden? Part of what makes Oasis so great to me is that I can hear their influences in each song of theirs. One may sound a little like the Beatles, another may have a Floyd vibe, another may sound more punk like the Pistols...Now apparently you don't like that, but I happen to love it. Also, that's not true about every album since BHN being "60's sounding." Only DBTT really had a 60's feel to it, and that's mostly because of Zak Starkley. SOTSOG was definitely "psychedelic" and was the first time they experimented with electronica...only problem was half the songs were terrible, not the vibe. HC was as simple an album as you can have...and certainly not 60's sounding. Don't Look Back in Anger and She's Electric have a 60's feel to it...something tells me you don't hate those songs though |
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Post by ozfan2 on Jan 5, 2008 5:51:58 GMT -5
You make some good points and I don't pretend to be an expert in analysing musical genres. Ooops I have a Welsh mate called Thomas , I stand corrected.
Firstly I love oasis, have seen them on EVERY tour they have done, brought DM and every other album AND single as soon as it was released, even brought the Japanese Import of HC for You Have The Heart Of a Star (great song), was one of the winners in the Sun competition for the launch of their latest DVD (the prize as I was in Sydney was third row seat to see Noel at the Enmore Theatre last year). Look I love this band and perhaps I am playing Devils advocate a bit here.
I love the Masterplan too and if that's a pyschedellic record bring on their new one! I don't really know what psychedellic means though. It conjurs up stuff like Yellow Submarine and Seargent Pepper to me though even Who feels Love..
To me DM is the most innovative CD ever released, I haven't heard anything like it before or since. I far prefer this to MG and to be honest I don't rate She's Electric-its a bit throw away don't you think?.
What I want from oasis are good songs with good melodies. I remember when Mike Flowers recorded Wonderwall he said it stands up as a good song, no matter if it has a cheesy orchestra behind it ( I also have the Mike Flowers Pops single of wonderwall)
I am still looking forward to this next CD though and I just hope it is ambitious with a massive production, not just a rock and roll/ folk record.
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...sounds great!.. 
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