what an idiot.

enough with this 9/11 consipracy madness. whoever believes it is a fool

1.) The towers collapsed natually, not bc of a demolition. The steel did not dissipate though. However, the steel did melt (the fire from the impact and jet fuel was not enough to completly destroy the steel, but was enough to melt the steel by atleast 50%). The melting of the steel + the impact and hole + floors above the impact point = not strong enough to hold. The floors above the impacted zone thus pushed down and made the floors below collapse creating a domino effect.

2.) If a 747 did not hit the pentagon, then where is that airplane? and where are the people that were on the airplane?

3.) The big problem I have with buying the theory is the vast number of entities involved. Building owners, hundreds of stock brokers buying against United, the White House, the Pentagon, the FAA, FBI, CIA, ordinary citizens! ect. If this was the case and thousands of people were involved in this, don't you think it would have gotten out? Our government can't properly cover up firings in its own jurisdiction or balance a budget, I don't see them pulling off a super complex multi-faceted conspiracy with literally thousands of parties having to be involved and not fucking up in the slightest..

4.) What about WTC bombing in 1993? US Embassy in 1998? USS Cole in 2000. -- All under Clinton. You're claiming that this conspiracy not only covers the thousands of people stated in point #3 above, BUT ALSO covers ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION?

5.) WHAT'S MORE: How about the terrorist attacks overseas? AQ attacking all around the world. Is the US behind all of that? Or the respective governments -- is this conspiracy that huge that evey western gov attacks its own citizens?

6.) Sure, explositions may have been heard. And yeah, there probably were explosions. But not bombs. Think about it, there's a massive fire in a big building. In that big building, theres lots of electricity, and other flammable items. The inital fire would spread, interact with the other flammable items, and create an explosion. You ignorant fuckers. Think will you.

The fact that some people thus dont believe AQ, OBL or terrorists in general exist is incredibly scary. The far left is fuckin insane.

There are consiparicies for every big event, bc people simply dont want to believe the truth ;D. It's less scary for some to believe that the government is doing the harm, and to think there really is no enemy.


9/11 may seem far-fetched to some, but the conspiracy theory is even more far-fetched. There's too many holes in the theory, and its simply not logical.

Michael Moore is an assclown. He's the liar, not Bush. Fahr. 9/11 was the biggest lie ever. He used computers to edit speeches in order to make them say what he wanted. I just feel sorry for the sods who actually believe this crap, which is anyone without an education

Now hes fuckin around with US health care. Maybe this fucker should just leave this country? Go to Cuba perhaps and lose the 300 pounds he needs to there.

Cindy Sheehan has retired, I think it's time for this other far left wing nut job to do the same

I simply do not believe the official story,what the hell was going on with bulding 7 imo that was a controlled demolition. Pancake theory would need to build up momentum but the Twin Towers came down a near enough free fall speed,

Pentagon i do not believe that a jet was responsible, looks like a missile caused the damage. I have no idea were the aircraft is if it did not crash into the pentagon, and why show stills from the camera that proves nothing either way just adds to the mystery.

I say i don't know where the plane is because i simply don't have any info about it and probably never will, but to me it looks like a missile attack not a crashed plane that caused the damage. I do not have the answers to 9/11 and i am not claiming to but the official story is not something i think is true

no, bc it did happen.

i want the skeptics to address my 6 points above. people avoid the points that clearly show that a cover-up was not possible.

I'm sure the government knows things we dont know about 9/11. Despite the 9/11 Report detailing almost everything. But thats the ways governments work. Certain issues remain classified. But to suggest this was an inside job defies logic.

Big Plane, Small Holes
CLAIM: Two holes were visible in the Pentagon immediately after the attack: a 75-ft.-wide entry hole in the building's exterior wall, and a 16-ft.-wide hole in Ring C, the Pentagon's middle ring. Conspiracy theorists claim both holes are far too small to have been made by a Boeing 757. "How does a plane 125 ft. wide and 155 ft. long fit into a hole which is only 16 ft. across?" asks reopen911.org, a Web site "dedicated to discovering the bottom line truth to what really occurred on September 11, 2001."

The truth is of even less importance to French author Thierry Meyssan, whose baseless assertions are fodder for even mainstream European and Middle Eastern media. In his book The Big Lie, Meyssan concludes that the Pentagon was struck by a satellite-guided missile--part of an elaborate U.S. military coup. "This attack," he writes, "could only be committed by United States military personnel against other U.S. military personnel."

FACT: When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings.

Why wasn't the hole as wide as a 757's 124-ft.-10-in. wingspan? A crashing jet doesn't punch a cartoon-like outline of itself into a reinforced concrete building, says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass. "If you expected the entire wing to cut into the building," Sozen tells PM, "it didn't happen."

The tidy hole in Ring C was 12 ft. wide--not 16 ft. ASCE concludes it was made by the jet's landing gear, not by the fuselage.

Intact Windows
CLAIM: Many Pentagon windows remained in one piece--even those just above the point of impact from the Boeing 757 passenger plane. Pentagonstrike.co.uk, an online animation widely circulated in the United States and Europe, claims that photographs showing "intact windows" directly above the crash site prove "a missile" or "a craft much smaller than a 757" struck the Pentagon.

FACT: Some windows near the impact area did indeed survive the crash. But that's what the windows were supposed to do--they're blast-resistant.

"A blast-resistant window must be designed to resist a force significantly higher than a hurricane that's hitting instantaneously," says Ken Hays, executive vice president of Masonry Arts, the Bessemer, Ala., company that designed, manufactured and installed the Pentagon windows. Some were knocked out of the walls by the crash and the outer ring's later collapse. "They were not designed to receive wracking seismic force," Hays notes. "They were designed to take in inward pressure from a blast event, which apparently they did: [Before the collapse] the blinds were still stacked neatly behind the window glass."



AFTERMATH: Wreckage from Flight 77 on the Pentagon's lawn--proof that a passenger plane, not a missile, hit the building. PHOTOGRAPH BY AP/WIDE WORLD PHOTOS Flight 77 Debris
CLAIM: Conspiracy theorists insist there was no plane wreckage at the Pentagon. "In reality, a Boeing 757 was never found," claims pentagonstrike.co.uk, which asks the question, "What hit the Pentagon on 9/11?"

FACT: Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"

Debunking The 9/11 Myths - Mar. 2005 Cover Story, is hardly an impartial view on the subject, i could just post a counter story from any so called conspiracy theory website. The article sounds convincing but all this can be cleared up if they just released the video evidence to prove the plane hit

Whatever questions you have, i can counter and vice versa

It's just one big circle of trying to proof each other wrong

lol I do wonder how so many people can talk about what a big stupid moron Bush is in one breath, then in the next claim he was the/one of the masterminds of this vast far reaching conspiricy that involded thousands of people and various facets of the US govt and the military working in tandem to pull off!

Don't you think at least ONE of the at least hundreds of conspiritors it would have taken would love to get CBS news to pony up $5 million for secret inside info that prooves Bush was involved and had prior knowledge?

by the way have any of you guys ever actually been in a building that's in fire? I volunteer firefight back at home, and once I was in this house that was burning and I heard all sorts of weird sounds/explosions I could only imagine what it must have been like inside the trade center that day. Not that I think these firefighters are lying or anything but I do wonder if Moore has done his usual "spin" on statements to fit his viewpoint?

hahahh not THOSE people again!

thank you very much. but one thing, bush lied to us, too. many times. so let's leave it as michael moore AND dubya as liars.