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Post by Rattleduser on Jun 12, 2007 14:30:26 GMT -5
Liverpool fans inspire Spain to write words to anthem
Hearing Liverpool fans belt out "You'll Never Walk Alone" from the terraces has helped inspire Spain's Olympic Committee president to seek lyrics to the country's wordless national anthem, he said on Tuesday.
Spain's Royal March has a suitably up-tempo tune but has been stripped of words in the past for their links to previous political regimes.
"More than envy, I feel a great admiration (when I see other national teams singing their anthems)," Alejandro Blanco told sports daily AS.
"I had the chance to listen to "You'll Never Walk Alone" at the Liverpool v Chelsea Champions League match recently and it gave me goose bumps."
Spanish sports figures have come out in support of the idea, which has received backing from some politicians.
Spain goalkeeper Iker Casillas said: "It would help fire up all the fans", and the captain of Spain's basketball world champions Carlos Jimenez added: "It would be good if it helped unite the players, and encourage the team spirit."
Choosing the words will be a difficult task in a nation starkly divided over the status of its diverse regions, some with their own languages such as the Basque Country.
A former prime minister's attempt to come up with some lyrics a few years ago failed because no one could agree what they should be.
"No one should see this as a political opportunity. The intention is to reflect the pride of our sportspeople when they represent us at great events. Sport should unite people," Blanco said.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 12, 2007 15:22:29 GMT -5
Maybe they can take another leaf out of the Liverpool book, and just steal the words directly from a Manchester United chant.
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Post by Don1™ on Jun 12, 2007 15:30:39 GMT -5
^and what chant would this be?
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 12, 2007 15:40:06 GMT -5
He plays on the left He plays on the right That boy Ronaldo Makes England look shite
There's our Ronaldo song, which you've happily pilfered. And don't try and deny it. I've seen enough Liverpool games over the past two years to know how recently you've 'come up' with it.
Then, there's You'll Never Walk Alone, which was sung on the terraces at Old Trafford once or twice, a good 5-6 years before Gerry & The Pacemakers recorded it. Now I wouldn't argue for a second that it means much more to your lot - that goes without saying - but you weren't exactly the 'first'.
You just made an anthem out of it once the local boy got his greasy mitts on it.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 12, 2007 15:41:19 GMT -5
Just after the Munich Air Disaster, by the way, in case you're wondering when I'm referring to.
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Post by Don1™ on Jun 12, 2007 15:47:27 GMT -5
Wrong, cant believe you just said that. We sang it in 2005 straight after we won the European Cup.
"We won it five times, We won it five times, We won it five times, In Istanbul we won it five time!"
Dont chat bull.
And You'll Never Walk Alone, was played at most grounds around the time as it was number one in the charts. But the kop adopted it, as it was the last song played before kick off each week as they played the top ten.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2007 15:52:56 GMT -5
Wrong, cant believe you just said that. We sang it in 2005 straight after we won the European Cup. "We won it five times, We won it five times, We won it five times, In Istanbul we won it five time!" Dont chat bull. And You'll Never Walk Alone, was played at most grounds around the time as it was number one in the charts. But the kop adopted it, as it was the last song played before kick off each week as they played the top ten. i don't know the history of you will never walk alone but the munich disaster was in 1958 and gerry & the pacemakers almost certainly came after that. but lets face it the tunes to most football chants are borrowed anyway. originality isn't important.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 12, 2007 15:57:10 GMT -5
Wrong, cant believe you just said that. We sang it in 2005 straight after we won the European Cup. Funny, I hadn't heard it until March. I suppose it's easy for a song about your greatest achievement to drift off the terraces. For two years. And You'll Never Walk Alone, was played at most grounds around the time as it was number one in the charts. But the kop adopted it, as it was the last song played before kick off each week as they played the top ten. Still, at least you know I'm right about one thing, since you've obviously decided not to argue my point.
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Post by Don1™ on Jun 12, 2007 15:59:32 GMT -5
Wrong, cant believe you just said that. We sang it in 2005 straight after we won the European Cup. "We won it five times, We won it five times, We won it five times, In Istanbul we won it five time!" Dont chat bull. And You'll Never Walk Alone, was played at most grounds around the time as it was number one in the charts. But the kop adopted it, as it was the last song played before kick off each week as they played the top ten. i don't know the history of you will never walk alone but the munich disaster was in 1958 and gerry & the pacemakers almost certainly came after that. but lets face it the tunes to most football chants are borrowed anyway. originality isn't important. True we lifted it off the Beach Boys! As for Youll Never Walk Alone, I couldnt tell ya, but it was popular around the time.
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Post by Rattleduser on Jun 12, 2007 16:32:47 GMT -5
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Post by Don1™ on Jun 12, 2007 16:51:41 GMT -5
Wrong, cant believe you just said that. We sang it in 2005 straight after we won the European Cup. Funny, I hadn't heard it until March. I suppose it's easy for a song about your greatest achievement to drift off the terraces. For two years. And You'll Never Walk Alone, was played at most grounds around the time as it was number one in the charts. But the kop adopted it, as it was the last song played before kick off each week as they played the top ten. Still, at least you know I'm right about one thing, since you've obviously decided not to argue my point. Our greatest achievement? Of course it is, its the greatest achievement by any English club. Until your club has more than us, then lets not talk about achievements.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 12, 2007 18:10:49 GMT -5
Our greatest achievement? Of course it is, its the greatest achievement by any English club. Until your club has more than us, then lets not talk about achievements. I wasn't being sarcastic, mate. Learn a bit of humility though, eh? 5 European Cups is an impressive haul, undoubtedly, but if you want to talk about a single greatest achievement then look no further than '99. Last season proved, beyond doubt, how difficult the treble is. Not just for ourselves, but for Chelsea too. And stop living in the past, eh? Least of all one you weren't around to witness. You haven't won the league in almost 20 years, and your supposedly impressive cup haul in that time has been matched by not only ourselves, but Chelsea and Arsenal; each of us with league titles to our name. Your club is under-achieving, and that European Cup did nothing but paint over the cracks.
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Post by Rattleduser on Jun 12, 2007 18:58:43 GMT -5
i think winning back to back European cups is more of an achievment than winning the treble
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 13, 2007 15:03:15 GMT -5
Of course you do. Now, here are the (many) reasons you're wrong.
In 1977, it took just nine games to win the trophy; all of which you played against teams with little or no background as a European Cup side. In 1978 you went one better and won it in just seven, thanks to the bye you got in the first round.
In 1999 we played, including qualifiers, thirteen games to win the Champions League. Okay, so we had four easy games. But we were also drawn against Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan and Juventus; teams with a total of eight European cups split between them. Juventus were even vying for their fourth consecutive final.
In winning the FA Cup, we met Premiership opposition in five out of six rounds. Two of those games also went to a replay, meaning that we played more games winning the 1999 FA Cup than you did in winning the 1979 European Cup.
And do you know what's ironic?
Whilst winning back to back European Cups, you were chasing trebles. You lost in the final of a domestic cup competition in both seasons, and came a respective first and second in the league. So if there's any club in England who should understand how difficult a treble is, it's Liverpool.
In winning ours, we played sixty games against the cream of domestic and European football. We didn't win the league until the last day; we didn't win the Champions League until the last minute. We didn't have the comfort of a pointless domestic schedule. When you won your second European Cup, the title race was over, and you were out of the FA Cup in round three.
That's why the treble is more of an achievement. And don't you forget it.
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Post by Rattleduser on Jun 13, 2007 16:17:23 GMT -5
Of course you do. Now, here are the (many) reasons you're wrong. In 1977, it took just nine games to win the trophy; all of which you played against teams with little or no background as a European Cup side. In 1978 you went one better and won it in just seven, thanks to the bye you got in the first round. In 1999 we played, including qualifiers, thirteen games to win the Champions League. Okay, so we had four easy games. But we were also drawn against Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan and Juventus; teams with a total of eight European cups split between them. Juventus were even vying for their fourth consecutive final. In winning the FA Cup, we met Premiership opposition in five out of six rounds. Two of those games also went to a replay, meaning that we played more games winning the 1999 FA Cup than you did in winning the 1979 European Cup. And do you know what's ironic? Whilst winning back to back European Cups, you were chasing trebles. You lost in the final of a domestic cup competition in both seasons, and came a respective first and second in the league. So if there's any club in England who should understand how difficult a treble is, it's Liverpool. In winning ours, we played sixty games against the cream of domestic and European football. We didn't win the league until the last day; we didn't win the Champions League until the last minute. We didn't have the comfort of a pointless domestic schedule. When you won your second European Cup, the title race was over, and you were out of the FA Cup in round three. That's why the treble is more of an achievement. And don't you forget it. its my opinion fella i am not trying to convince you i don't care if a Manc disagrees with me, you put up an extensive argument tho
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 13, 2007 16:27:51 GMT -5
God damnit, it's no fun unless you argue back.
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Post by Rattleduser on Jun 13, 2007 16:45:43 GMT -5
Not interested in lookin at statistics to prove my point your more dedicated than me at doin that. Manures treble was a great achievement no doubt about that, i just think winning the most prestigious club competition back to back is greater but you did a valiant job in makin it sound like it was nothin
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 13, 2007 16:52:27 GMT -5
I think that's the most amicable argument I've ever had about football.
Think I need to find me a Leeds fan before my head explodes.
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Post by Rattleduser on Jun 13, 2007 17:51:09 GMT -5
Then my job is done
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Post by Elias on Jun 13, 2007 18:10:58 GMT -5
I think that's the most amicable argument I've ever had about football. Think I need to find me a Leeds fan before my head explodes. Ey!! Manure? We've got more important things to worry about like the Johnstone's Paint Trophy at the moment. Nice to know you're still thinking of us while we travel to Donny next season though ;D
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 13, 2007 18:13:31 GMT -5
How could we forget our feeder club?
Besides, that relegation was the icing on the cake.
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Post by Don1™ on Jun 15, 2007 9:56:01 GMT -5
Of course you do. Now, here are the (many) reasons you're wrong. In 1977, it took just nine games to win the trophy; all of which you played against teams with little or no background as a European Cup side. In 1978 you went one better and won it in just seven, thanks to the bye you got in the first round. In 1999 we played, including qualifiers, thirteen games to win the Champions League. Okay, so we had four easy games. But we were also drawn against Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Inter Milan and Juventus; teams with a total of eight European cups split between them. Juventus were even vying for their fourth consecutive final. In winning the FA Cup, we met Premiership opposition in five out of six rounds. Two of those games also went to a replay, meaning that we played more games winning the 1999 FA Cup than you did in winning the 1979 European Cup. And do you know what's ironic? Whilst winning back to back European Cups, you were chasing trebles. You lost in the final of a domestic cup competition in both seasons, and came a respective first and second in the league. So if there's any club in England who should understand how difficult a treble is, it's Liverpool. In winning ours, we played sixty games against the cream of domestic and European football. We didn't win the league until the last day; we didn't win the Champions League until the last minute. We didn't have the comfort of a pointless domestic schedule. When you won your second European Cup, the title race was over, and you were out of the FA Cup in round three. That's why the treble is more of an achievement. And don't you forget it. All well and true, and you make a good point. Only difference being you had to be champions of England then to win it. You wernt in 98 meaning you had to play a qualifier, same as us in 2004.
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