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Post by Black Rebel Motorcycle Pixie. on Jul 20, 2005 10:18:35 GMT -5
I wondered what your opinions on this matter were.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2005 10:36:03 GMT -5
fuck that bullshit..if someone wants to be a vegeterian thats cool .. BUT I DONT WANT THEN TELLING ME WHAT TO EAT..THATS WHATS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD there are too many people trying to impose there beliefs on others (not u pix i am talkin in general here) i dont care if someone eats meat ,wears fur,hunts , ect ect..thats what freedom is about. now I AM GOING TO GO AND GET ME A DOUBLE BACON CHEESEBURGER AT THE DINER..ANY VEGANS OUT THERE THAT DISAPPROVE..FUCK OFF
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Post by globe on Jul 20, 2005 10:38:22 GMT -5
now I AM GOING TO GO AND GET ME A DOUBLE BACONE CHEESEBURGER AT THE DINER..ANY VEGANS OUT THERE THAT DISAPPROVE..FUCK OFF ;D lol yeah i agree about eating meat. dont agree with people wearing fur though coz thats animals being killed for the sake of fashion, whereas with eating meat, they are killed so people can eat.
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Post by Nicola on Jul 20, 2005 10:42:56 GMT -5
I would love to be a vegetarian cos i really do feel sorry for those cows standing in the fields with their big sad eyes............... however, i like meat. I'm not a big meat eater but i couldnt give up spag bol, or the occasional burger.
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Post by Dominic on Jul 20, 2005 10:43:06 GMT -5
i think its a bit fuckin cheap people maoning about bacon cheese burgers, when theres kids workin in sweat shops, and youve no problem wearing nike trainers etc, but i completely understand and admair those who choose not to eat meat, or animal produce
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Post by globe on Jul 20, 2005 10:49:08 GMT -5
I actually tried to go veggy a few years back, gave it a go for a few months, but the smell of a bacon roll was too much to take!
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Post by Nicola on Jul 20, 2005 10:51:54 GMT -5
Thats what i'm like too Globe, you never see a fat vegi......
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Post by lionsden® on Jul 20, 2005 10:52:37 GMT -5
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals ;D
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Post by DixonHill on Jul 20, 2005 11:44:10 GMT -5
do you like the smiths, pixie?
i love fish and i love chicken. that's all really.
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Post by Kamikazi on Jul 20, 2005 11:54:10 GMT -5
Say cows weren't consumed on such a large scale, there's how many cows in the world? And what are they going to do in the environment? Just be eaten by other predators anyways right? So what's the big deal?
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Post by giggergrl on Jul 20, 2005 11:54:44 GMT -5
Oh PIxie girl.... this topic has been knocking at my door these days... 1.) I was a vegetarian in HS and college.... then life happened and it got to be a hassle... I always tried not to pick food over ppl i.e. go to cook out, friend wants you to have a burger..... I would eat it. 2.) I also had anemia for awhile so.... red meat was good for me actually and other foods i.e. raw spinach
3.) The answer in my opinion is YES meat is murder.. and the cattle industyr and mass production of animals makes me ill. ****the animals suffer and the BIBLE never said to be CRUEL to animals ! *******
MY DAUGHTER Lena JUST LEARNED THIS YEAR IN SCHOOL - GOD' s gifts of the animals and earth... ENUFF SAID !
4.) The answer for me now is - go FREE RANGE and no antiobitics, hormones etc. THE MOST ETHICAL WAY TO EAT. FOR ME.
BE WELL SIS, tAM I do see the benefits of lean protein in a diet
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2005 12:21:14 GMT -5
Humans are omnivore's they are designed to eat meat. Eating meat is not murder. However the animals should be kept in good conditions and I don't think animals should be killed for fur coats etc.
Is it wrong for other omnivores and carnivores in the animal kingdom to kill other animals to stay alive?
The thing I hate is the animal rights extremists that think killing humans can be justified because the humans have killed animals. If torturing animals is wrong (and I think it is) then how come they don't see torturing humans as wrong?
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Post by Nicola on Jul 20, 2005 12:21:29 GMT -5
i forgot to say that i feel sorry for the pigs too
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Post by feckarse on Jul 20, 2005 12:59:51 GMT -5
Thats what i'm like too Globe, you never see a fat vegi...... true, but their farts reek something bad from their diet
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Post by lionsden® on Jul 20, 2005 13:32:12 GMT -5
If God doesn't want us to eat animals, then why are they made of meat ;D
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Post by giggergrl on Jul 20, 2005 13:40:47 GMT -5
If God doesn't want us to eat animals, then why are they made of meat ;D God "MAY" want us to eat animals (not in world of karma tho, whole new thread..) ... but animals are a gift.... our society especially the US treats animals like a crop !it is brutal and souless.... been to a chicken house , mass production THIS IS UNETHICAL & not right... a major problem in the world.. lack of ethics to living things... everyone one wants there fucking .99 hamburger and it is SICK. Europe is leeps and bounds ahead of us here once again on general treatment of animals. I heard some projected dates for all animals to be free ranging in certain countries.. I know deutschland for sure... NOT TO MENTION THE UNHEALTHY practices today and how will this affect our kids and our health ? i.e. pump animals with growth hormones and anti-biotics.. we need to be aware, that is all mate, back to my groovy day.... be well, Tam (USA ... all boils down to guess what $$$$. )
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Post by lionsden® on Jul 20, 2005 13:48:23 GMT -5
If God doesn't want us to eat animals, then why are they made of meat ;D God "MAY" want us to eat animals (not in world of karma tho, whole new thread..) ... but animals are a gift.... our society especially the US treats animals like a crop !it is brutal and souless.... been to a chicken house , mass production THIS IS UNETHICAL & not right... a major problem in the world.. lack of ethics to living things... everyone one wants there fucking .99 hamburger and it is SICK. Europe is leeps and bounds ahead of us here once again on general treatment of animals. I heard some projected dates for all animals to be free ranging in certain countries.. I know deutschland for sure... NOT TO MENTION THE UNHEALTHY practices today and how will this affect our kids and our health ? i.e. pump animals with growth hormones and anti-biotics.. we need to be aware, that is all mate, back to my groovy day.... be well, Tam (USA ... all boils down to guess what $$$$. ) I didn't post that to get a lecture on PETA. Don't eat the meat then, go kill your own. Thats prob not ethical either. All I know is that I love my Filet Mignon with pinot noir sauce and sauteed mushrooms
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Post by albertzz on Jul 20, 2005 14:21:40 GMT -5
what a non-argument so far I've heard "eating meat is wrong" vs. "no, fuck you, it tastes good"
why is eating meat wrong? and why, if it tastes good is that an excuse?
eating meat is wrong in those cases when you don't absolutely need it because you are takinga nother creature's life who feels pain when you needn't. On what basis is it ok to do this? because they are inferior? well then can we kill mentally retarded people? I think not.The "argument" that it tastes good is self-intereste masquerading as a reason. It is not a legitimate reason.
and Kalas needs to take a logic class. Freedom for some is no freedom for others. Sure he doesn't think animals are important but again, why? how are they different from mentally retarded people.
I prize honesty over other things. I eat meat. I shouldn't. I am acting unethically. But not for a minute do I attempt to justify it with the sort of specious reasoning I'm hearing here.
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Post by giggergrl on Jul 20, 2005 14:25:08 GMT -5
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Post by albertzz on Jul 20, 2005 14:26:38 GMT -5
vegetables don't feel pain! ffs
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Post by albertzz on Jul 20, 2005 14:27:24 GMT -5
and what if what's "right" for me is murdering you, think people!
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 20, 2005 14:27:57 GMT -5
Meat is Murder... that's one of The Smiths albums....
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Post by tezza202 on Jul 20, 2005 14:28:44 GMT -5
Is eating meat really murder? Cus when an animal is on my plate its usually already dead
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2005 14:31:21 GMT -5
what a non-argument so far I've heard "eating meat is wrong" vs. "no, fuck you, it tastes good" why is eating meat wrong? and why, if it tastes good is that an excuse? eating meat is wrong in those cases when you don't absolutely need it because you are takinga nother creature's life who feels pain when you needn't. On what basis is it ok to do this? because they are inferior? well then can we kill mentally retarded people? I think not.The "argument" that it tastes good is self-intereste masquerading as a reason. It is not a legitimate reason. and Kalas needs to take a logic class. Freedom for some is no freedom for others. Sure he doesn't think animals are important but again, why? how are they different from mentally retarded people. I prize honesty over other things. I eat meat. I shouldn't. I am acting unethically. But not for a minute do I attempt to justify it with the sort of specious reasoning I'm hearing here. We are omnivores we are biologically designed to eat meat, is my argument and justification. The treatment of animals is a separate topic. You can eat meat and treat animals humanly.
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Post by albertzz on Jul 20, 2005 14:32:49 GMT -5
sure we are biologically capable of eating meat but we needn't to survive. we are biologically capable of murdering people, raping people and eating babies but we needn't and shouldn't
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