ozfan2
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Post by ozfan2 on Apr 20, 2006 7:24:51 GMT -5
Anyone any idea how many copies DBTT has sold? Sorry if this is a little lame but it would be nice to know in comparison with the other albums. Downloads were probaly quite big too?
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Post by Mad4it on Apr 20, 2006 16:56:43 GMT -5
ok first of all world wide sales are impossible to find out.
even record companies don't have the exact sales.
what they tend to do is just base the world sales on the important markets like (usa,uk,japan,frane,germany,italy,canada,brazil and a few more).
DBTT has sales of around 2million world wide.
2.5million at a push.
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Post by Mad4it on Apr 20, 2006 17:04:21 GMT -5
And here are a few shipment sales for DBTT around the world
Uk 900,000 Japan 235,00 USA 200,000 Italy 100,000 Germany 70,000 France 35,000 Canada 50,000 austrailia 35,000
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Post by Mogly on Apr 20, 2006 18:08:24 GMT -5
in the UK it sold 858k in 2005.... it was in a chart of the albums that sold the most copies in the UK in 2005.... it was in the top 75 albums chart until 2 or 3 weeks ago. I guess it's very very close to hitting 900k but it's still not there cos apparently it hasn't been certified 3x platinum
It should have sold a lot more but the promotion was kinda lame considering they messed up the release dates for singles and the lame video and radio edit for LTBL..... I guess Oasis and Sony were kinda fed up with each other so that probably affected promotion and therefore album sales...... still they managed to get 2 no.1 singles and a very close no.2..... not bad for a band 12 years old
edit: a 12yo band with the lamest record company of all. sony lost it a long time ago. they normally can't get they're artist to have huge success. imo parlophone is a great label. look at what it does for Coldplay and Radiohead and what it did for Keane
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Apr 20, 2006 18:37:14 GMT -5
According to the BPI UK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Award Type: 3 x Platinum
Artist Name: OASIS
Record Type: Album
Record Title: DON'T BELIEVE THE TRUTH
Record Company: BIG BROTHER
Record Label: BIG BROTHER
Record Release Date: Mon May 30 2005
Date Award Issued: Fri Jan 6 2006
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Post by Mogly on Apr 22, 2006 8:51:44 GMT -5
ok so it reached 3x platinum. that's great. HC is also 3x platinum but I believe it's already past the million cos when DBTT came out HC re-entered the charts and I read so somewhere on this forum
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Post by Wilde on Apr 22, 2006 9:14:27 GMT -5
TOTAL 2005 : 848 000
Then in 2006 :
semaine 31 #42 ( -11 ) ( 2 500 ) semaine 32 #45 ( -3 ) ( 11 500 ) semaine 33 #59 ( -14 ) ( 4 469 ) semaine 34 #69 ( -10 ) ( 3 681 ) ------ au 23.01.2005 : 865 000 (?) semaine 35 #75 ( -6 ) semaine 36 #65 ( +10 ) semaine 37 #55 ( +10 ) semaine 38 #46 ( +9 ) ( 6 700 ) -------- 881 000 semaine 39 #41 ( +5 ) ( 6 000 ) -------- 887 000 semaine 40 #52 ( -11 ) semaine 41 #75 ( -23 ) semaine 42 #109 semaine 43 #165 ...
Then there is 3-4 weeks missing in my charts... So easily 900 000 copies sold by now, after nearly 1 year. HC, in UK is at 1.100.000 copies sold in 3 years.
WORLDWIDE SALES : surely more than 2.2 m. and probably between 2.5 and 3.0 now.
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Post by lyla on Apr 23, 2006 0:59:22 GMT -5
interesting, cos dbtt critically at least is considered the 'better' album of the two andy yet they seem to have sold around the same. but then again HC has been aroudn for a few years longer, and all oasis albums continuously sell...well maybe not sotsog
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Apr 28, 2006 18:59:05 GMT -5
HC had more 'radio friendly' singles that make the casual listener buy an entire album.
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Post by queenoasis on Apr 28, 2006 23:08:18 GMT -5
edit: a 12yo band with the lamest record company of all. sony lost it a long time ago. they normally can't get they're artist to have huge success. imo parlophone is a great label. look at what it does for Coldplay and Radiohead and what it did for Keane Jebus Krikes did Keane get a first rate PR team here in the US! They were VH1 Artists of the Month, booked (& sold out) Radio City Music Hall, got more airplay in NYC radio than "Lyla" AND were nominated for a Grammy! All this from a no name UK band...Oasis needs to hire their PR people man.
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ozfan2
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Post by ozfan2 on May 4, 2006 9:21:32 GMT -5
Thanks. I'm a bit dissapointd by the sales though. For me a better album than HC but certainly in Australia it had no publicity at all. Not reviewed in any of the papers, not played at all on radio (especially jjj who avoided it like the plague), no TV just the tour they did late last year, which was a bit lack lustre.
Agree that choice of singles (apart from Lyla ) was tragic. IOBI may have been No 1 in the UK but it was a plodding music hall type song, LTBL (and the hopeless video ) was even more boring. Its even more of an amazement when you think of the other great potential singles. For me one of the best oasis songs in years was woefully under utilised- KTDA (it was used as the closing song to accompany a montage of inspiring moments of the Commonwealth Games on TV), ABWR, GGTIA.
KTDA I believe would have gone a long way to putting oasis back on the map, instead of the predictable oasis by numbers songs they put out.
Other factors to effect sales: The split with Sony-would you bother to promote a band just for another record company to reap the benefits later on?
Download sales-wasn't it pretty high initially on itunes??
Just re read the first Colin Murray review but for me it didn't really live up to the initial expectation and I can't say I agree with the review if I'm totally honest. A year on I skip quite a few of the folky songs but it does have some classic moments, enough to give me real hope for the next one, will this be IT, this time?
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Post by Mogly on May 4, 2006 14:02:23 GMT -5
I agree with you in almost everything you say but I do believe DBTT is IT. it's a great record. there's no need for a record to sell a squillion records to be great. look at arcade fire. in fact eminem, 50 cent, britney spears..... the list goes on, all sell a lot of records bbut they're music is shite. this time oasis wrote an album they feel comfortable with, it's an album most of the fans love, and that's what it's all about. the fans and the band loving it. there's not one single track on DBTT that I skip, I like some of the songs more than others but they're all very good songs.
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Post by Mad4it on May 4, 2006 20:49:50 GMT -5
2.5million shipment sales compared to about 3million shipment sales for HC.
i mean still DBTT did pretty well for a band that has been going for more than 10years.
and Not forgetting DBTT had only 3 singles to promote DBTT compared to 4 for HC. And in most countries Lyla was the only single that was promoted.
I'm hoping that the new label will push harder for promotion getting oasis on more T.V shows,paying for oasis to have their album release add in magazines,pushing for more airplay then just one single.
I always said this that DBTT will not do alot if only LYLA is played in the states. Lyla did get decent airplay in america for a few week #108 in the billboard singles chart and top20 in the alternative chart.And that helped a good start for DBTT #12 in America, but as soon as LYLAs airplay was dieing the album nose dived down the charts.Now if LTBL was played then DBTT sales would have stablelised.
all this will boost sales.
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Post by Mogly on May 5, 2006 9:19:13 GMT -5
they make the best music these days, so they need the best label to promote the music. I mean, simple plan and good charlotte and all those crap bands get a lot of promotion and althpugh the music is beyond crap it sells a lot
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ozfan2
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Post by ozfan2 on May 12, 2006 17:59:01 GMT -5
Yes, oasis need a good record company who will realise what they have and give them some decent, solid promotion, not a bit of smoke when they release an album then nothing.
You get the impression that Noel thinks he can do everything and he can manage his own label but without a big company behind them they will find it tougher.
On the subject of Noel wanting to everything, I don't think he's as good a producer as a songwriter. Get back OweN Morriss (but you get the feeling they fell out big time, clash of egos probaly)!!
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Post by Poshbird05 on May 14, 2006 7:43:49 GMT -5
HC had more 'radio friendly' singles that make the casual listener buy an entire album. Don't forget that in 2004 the movie, The Butterfly Effect, used SCYHO at the end, I'm sure since that was a big movie that bolstered some salse for the album at least in the States
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Post by Elias on May 14, 2006 10:37:32 GMT -5
Give a shit about sales. This record was about restoring some credibilty, showing that they can still make a top rate album that is a true reflection of Oasis 2005/06.
Mission accomplished.
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Post by Mogly on May 14, 2006 12:40:22 GMT -5
Give a shit about sales. This record was about restoring some credibilty, showing that they can still make a top rate album that is a true reflection of Oasis 2005/06. Mission accomplished. enough said
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