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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Aug 30, 2005 12:53:23 GMT -5
After 15 listens to the entirety of the album, I've discovered something I dislike a lot about the new album.
Unlike DM, WTSMG, BHN, and SOTSOG, both HC and DBTT have ended up not giving me as much of an album sound.
Don't get me wrong. I enjoy listenning to HC more than I do listenning to SOTSOG, and the same is true for DBTT. I am also not saying that I don't like albums if they aren't a concept album. Far from that. But I detest albums that don't flow: albums that don't have consistancy.
Listen to any compilation by any band (excluding Masterplan) and you'll discover that there is never any true sound to the album. Unfortunately I don't quite pick anything out of DBTT and call that the albums sound: you have Muck Fingers vs. Part of the Queue, which, coincidentally, are both written by Noel but don't sound as though they belong on the same album.
Although DBTT is very psychadelic, it is terribly pieced together in my opinion. Reminiscent of some type of compilation. I think that the more that everyone else ends up adding music to the album that it takes away from a complete album sound.
Anyone?
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Post by EyeballTickler on Aug 30, 2005 13:01:31 GMT -5
Oysters can change sex anytime they want.
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Post by djlen74 on Aug 30, 2005 13:40:58 GMT -5
After 15 listens to the entirety of the album, I've discovered something I dislike a lot about the new album. Unlike DM, WTSMG, BHN, and SOTSOG, both HC and DBTT have ended up not giving me as much of an album sound. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy listenning to HC more than I do listenning to SOTSOG, and the same is true for DBTT. I am also not saying that I don't like albums if they aren't a concept album. Far from that. But I detest albums that don't flow: albums that don't have consistancy. Listen to any compilation by any band (excluding Masterplan) and you'll discover that there is never any true sound to the album. Unfortunately I don't quite pick anything out of DBTT and call that the albums sound: you have Muck Fingers vs. Part of the Queue, which, coincidentally, are both written by Noel but don't sound as though they belong on the same album. Although DBTT is very psychadelic, it is terribly pieced together in my opinion. Reminiscent of some type of compilation. I think that the more that everyone else ends up adding music to the album that it takes away from a complete album sound. Anyone? Ummmm.... I have to disagree. I have listened to the album from beginning to end quite frequently, and I think that the album flows quite nicely. TUTS is a GREAT opening track, then as TUTS fades out, it cranks right into MF... I also like the way they go from GGTIA into POTQ, and POTQ into KTDA... Although I'm not a big fan of Let There Be Love, I think that it's a great closer, and after LTBL closes and the CD shuts off I'm always left thinking "Wow, what a GREAT album".
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Post by nyr401994 on Aug 30, 2005 13:43:03 GMT -5
Oysters can change sex anytime they want. LOL!
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Post by StepOut on Aug 30, 2005 14:09:21 GMT -5
I think the album flows nicely. It's not as consistant as MG or DM though.
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Post by angelchild on Aug 30, 2005 14:39:38 GMT -5
the sound for me is sound of the 60's
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Post by Elias on Aug 30, 2005 15:49:49 GMT -5
Gotta say I couldn't disagree more. While I agree some of the songs don't actually sound the same, the production of the all the songs is very consistent, overall the album has a definite sound to it. To me it's like they've let you into their world for 45 minutes - into the privacy of their studio. It gives me the feeling of peering through a studio window or something.
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Post by MG on Aug 30, 2005 16:56:19 GMT -5
have to disagree with ya revolver, i think the album flows nicely all the way thru, there is no direct stop start feeling to the songs
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Post by sing me something new on Aug 30, 2005 17:51:42 GMT -5
I have to disagree as well, I've listened to the album countless times that the songs all sort of blend together. The best example I have is that as TIOBI fades into its outro, I expect those pulsing drums of TMOS to be right there behind it. I have the acoustic set from the other week with Idle, (which is an ace version in my opinion, love the switch in the lyrics "as long as there's a bed for me the stars will shine"), but even with that, I am a little sad when TMOS isn't right there after it, so then I search through the playlist and jump right to it. Just my opinion, but I think there is excellent continuity among the songs of this album, while retaining incedible diversity and nuance between each one.
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Aug 30, 2005 18:45:59 GMT -5
Well....................with the Digital age just rearrange the songs in a pre set and there you go.
The whole concept of an album flow has been gone with the digital age.
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Post by rockandroll on Aug 30, 2005 22:03:18 GMT -5
Listen to any compilation by any band (excluding Masterplan) and you'll discover that there is never any true sound to the album. Well Revolver, go listen to Revolver and tell me if the songs sound the same. Does Eleanor Rigby sound like Yellow Submarine?? Does I'm only sleeping sound like Tomorrow Never knows? or does Taxman sound like Love You To??....do you think that album doesn't flow??
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Post by shakermaker00 on Aug 30, 2005 22:37:57 GMT -5
i completely agree with revolver on this one. the beauty of the older albums and especially mg was that every song song slowly started introducing the next one while the song was still on. abbey road and revolver did the same thing. maybe it's just me, but after 2 listens of the albums i knew the tracklisting and started waiting for the next song with extreme exitement. that is something oasis have lost. i feel, however that it would be almost impossible to achieve that flow with 4 different songwriters. so, oasis are concentrating on the songs rather than the album which doesnt make the music any worse or any better. its still the same music
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Post by lionsden® on Aug 30, 2005 22:51:59 GMT -5
i'm craving a mcdonalds premium chicken sandwich
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Post by StepOut on Aug 30, 2005 23:20:43 GMT -5
i'm craving a mcdonalds premium chicken sandwich Their deli sandwiches are mega.
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Aug 31, 2005 2:40:18 GMT -5
after love like a bomb the album is consistant. tracks 5-11 are great pieces of work to be put on the same album!
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Aug 31, 2005 3:13:40 GMT -5
There are some songs that don't fit well togethr, but I don;t know what it is that made me really have trouble when I listenned to it a few days ago. I just felt like..... it's not flowing to me.
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Post by djlen74 on Aug 31, 2005 4:03:46 GMT -5
Gotta say I couldn't disagree more. While I agree some of the songs don't actually sound the same, the production of the all the songs is very consistent, overall the album has a definite sound to it. To me it's like they've let you into their world for 45 minutes - into the privacy of their studio. It gives me the feeling of peering through a studio window or something. Nice post man
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Sept 1, 2005 9:53:16 GMT -5
Listen to any compilation by any band (excluding Masterplan) and you'll discover that there is never any true sound to the album. Well Revolver, go listen to Revolver and tell me if the songs sound the same. Does Eleanor Rigby sound like Yellow Submarine?? Does I'm only sleeping sound like Tomorrow Never knows? or does Taxman sound like Love You To??....do you think that album doesn't flow?? Lol... well, Idler... I mean, I love Revolver... DON'T BRING IT INTO THIS ..... Well, I definitely know what you mean, I feel that DBTT has the flow it had when I first got it. It definitely has a sound to it, but I feel that starting with "Part of the Queue" that the album is immistakably fucking amazing. But I find that the first side of the album is slightly more chopping. And I'm sorry if I came off as slashing the album. I truly love love love it and I just wondered if anyone else felt the same
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Sept 1, 2005 9:57:15 GMT -5
And re-reading my orginal post.... haha... well.... I didn't quite mean "terribly pieced together". I was having an awful long day and I guess I took it out on the first five tracks of the album
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Sept 1, 2005 10:51:24 GMT -5
i completely agree with revolver on this one. the beauty of the older albums and especially mg was that every song song slowly started introducing the next one while the song was still on. abbey road and revolver did the same thing. maybe it's just me, but after 2 listens of the albums i knew the tracklisting and started waiting for the next song with extreme exitement. that is something oasis have lost. i feel, however that it would be almost impossible to achieve that flow with 4 different songwriters. so, oasis are concentrating on the songs rather than the album which doesnt make the music any worse or any better. its still the same music well put
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Post by Clint on Sept 1, 2005 19:58:33 GMT -5
I don't know dude, I think this flows like the white album does. This album to me, has a very Bob Dylanish more mature-oasis feel. HC had a fake feeling to me, like it was them trying to write hit songs like the early 90s.
I love SOTSOG. It had a really good overall sound, and a lot of songs that I loved on it, btw.
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Post by juaaaaaaaaaaaaaan on Sept 5, 2005 1:36:49 GMT -5
Yes, I never heard anybody saying HC had a fake feeling, I feel the same way. It's not like I picture them sitting in a dark room figuring out ways to fool people, but I feel Noel (In HC) thought of the songs before he wrote them, he knew how he wanted them to sound and then worked on writing them.
And this "new" Oasis just don't make me feel the same way they did before...
DBTT is like Real Madrid, a lot of individual talent, zero team work.
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Post by giggergrl on Sept 5, 2005 9:24:14 GMT -5
I don't know dude, I think this flows like the white album does. This album to me, has a very Bob Dylanish more mature-oasis feel. HC had a fake feeling to me, like it was them trying to write hit songs like the early 90s. I love SOTSOG. It had a really good overall sound, and a lot of songs that I loved on it, btw. regarding dylanish sound... etc. i love the way noel takes something old and makes it sound brand new ! ditto 2 liam. oasis defo a 60's sound....and more mature i agree. logically as time marches on in their lives.. and i don't think the lyrics are random rhyming tunes... lol ! they r saying something ! i love it ! but dm and all the songs about drinking shagging and doing drugs, having an attitude will obviously remain timeless with us all ! cheers !
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Post by DixonHill on Sept 5, 2005 15:03:24 GMT -5
DBTT is like Real Madrid, a lot of individual talent, zero team work. nice. excellent.
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Post by DixonHill on Sept 5, 2005 15:03:44 GMT -5
i've not listened to it in ages.
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