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Post by nyr401994 on Jul 8, 2005 23:59:25 GMT -5
Paul who  People who haven't had a hit in the last 40 years should shut the f*ck up.  his last hit was with michael jackson in the 80s, if i'm not mistaken. and by the way, you're talking about a man who's 2002 tour was the highest grossing tour of the year. this year, he sold out msg in less than 5 minutes for 4 shows! |
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Post by nyr401994 on Jul 9, 2005 0:05:13 GMT -5
Put Eleanor Rigby and Champagne Supernova togheter and see what's better, man, come on!!!! eleanor rigby. give me a break, man! you're shitting on the man who wrote yesterday, eleanor rigby, all my loving, let it be and hey jude. Paul who People who haven't had a hit in the last 40 years should shut the f*ck up. By the age of 30 , Paul McCartney had written more hits , classics , anthems than Noel & Liam will ever write in their entire life ! By the age of 30 , Paul ( & The Beatles ) had taken the world in his hand , shook it .... And changed forever codes in pop music , rock music , arts & clothes ( wait a minute...let me think about it...Oh yeah , Noel dresses like Paul ) .. Funnily , Liam used to say that he hated Paul 'cause he was the Beatle who was writing " romantic " stuffs for girls & farts !! 10 years later , Liam is writting at the age of 32 years old things like : Love Like A Bomb or Guess God Thinks I'm Abel ... Now all that to say that Paul & Oasis ( i love Oasis , don't get me wrong ) but they don't play in the same league .. So everyone is free to give is opinion but i think McCartney is the one speaking with knowledge & wisdom , while most of the time , when Liam opens his big mouth , the guy is sarcastic , ironic , bitter or out of tune ... Howard probably asked Paul about Oasis non being at the Live 8 or something like that ... couldn't have said it better, mate. and you spared me a lot of time from typing!  |
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Post by supersonicliam on Jul 9, 2005 0:56:03 GMT -5
do you really think Oasis would even exist if McCartney and the Beatles hadn't been around? I mean Paul is a legend
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Post by Guess God Thinks I'm Cain on Jul 9, 2005 7:12:32 GMT -5
He's an old f*cking twat  . He didn't invent the fucking wheel, mate. Rock and Roll would still be alive with, without, despite The Beatles  . I love The Beatles, but all your hero worshiping is sickening. Of course Paul wrote timeless hits, all of which were inspired by Jerry Lee Lewis, Fats Dominoe, Buddy Holly, Elvis, Bob Dylan, Roy Orbison, The Beach Boys, Carl Perkins, Phil Spector, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and let's not forget John Lennon as well  . Point is, Rock and Roll belongs to future generations, not old farts who think they somehow invented all the fucking chords. Of course, Oasis is derivative, as are The Beatles, mate. That's Rock and Roll |
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Post by globe on Jul 9, 2005 10:02:55 GMT -5
He's an old f*cking twat . He didn't invent the fucking wheel, mate. Rock and Roll would still be alive with, without, despite The Beatles . I love The Beatles, but all your hero worshiping is sickening. Of course Paul wrote timeless hits, all of which were inspired by Jerry Lee Lewis, Fats Dominoe, Buddy Holly, Elvis, Bob Dylan, Roy Orbison, The Beach Boys, Carl Perkins, Phil Spector, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, and let's not forget John Lennon as well . Point is, Rock and Roll belongs to future generations, not old farts who think they somehow invented all the fucking chords. Of course, Oasis is derivative, as are The Beatles, mate. That's Rock and Roll That type of Rock N Roll would still be around, of course it would, and those artists you mention obviously had a great input and influence on todays music. But the fact is, the Beatles took that type of music and blended it into what became known as pop music. If it wasnt for the Beatles, white boys playing guitars with long hair probably wouldnt have happened and probably wouldnt still be happening now. |
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Post by Guess God Thinks I'm Cain on Jul 9, 2005 10:33:14 GMT -5
The Beatles didn't invent Pop music, Elvis did . Without The Beatles instead of shaggy haired white kids, they'd instead be greasy haired white kids. The only credit the Beatles should get is writting their own music and influencing other kids that they can do the same  . |
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Post by globe on Jul 9, 2005 10:43:43 GMT -5
The Beatles didn't invent Pop music, Elvis did . Without The Beatles instead of shaggy haired white kids, they'd instead be greasy haired white kids. The only credit the Beatles should get is writting their own music and influencing other kids that they can do the same . I disagree, I dont think Elvis' music is pop in the way we know it now. The Beatles' music is. Although it would be foolish to say he didnt start the ball rolling, coz he obviously did. |
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Post by hurricaneoasis on Jul 9, 2005 12:34:43 GMT -5
finally we've got a good discussion on here... only problem is... nobody can possibly win it...
still shut the fuck up about slagging off Paul... if you do that you've just got no class... and no idea of music history, let alone taste
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Post by Noel's Barmy Army on Jul 9, 2005 12:41:19 GMT -5
eleanor rigby. give me a break, man! you're shitting on the man who wrote yesterday, eleanor rigby, all my loving, let it be and hey jude. eleanor rigby is a fucking terrible song and lennon wrote Let it Be. He also wrote Frog Chorus! |
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Post by turnupthetruth on Jul 9, 2005 13:13:38 GMT -5
I'd take Wonderwall over Yesterday.
I'd take Don't Look Back in Anger over Let it Be.
I'd take Champagne Supernova over Hey Jude.
I'd take What's the Story Morning Glory over any Beatles record any day of the week.
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Post by Guess God Thinks I'm Cain on Jul 9, 2005 13:23:27 GMT -5
finally we've got a good discussion on here... only problem is... nobody can possibly win it... still shut the fuck up about slagging off Paul... if you do that you've just got no class... and no idea of music history, let alone taste Paul is a slag, a fucking washed up has-been  . Just cause he wrote a good tune back in the day dosen't mean he's the King. Lennon was much more interesting and insightful. Hell, George is cooler than Paul . And Fuck off about music history and taste, if Paul's tunes are your idea of a good time then 'to each his own,' I just don't like people blowing off Oasis as being "derivative." |
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Post by globe on Jul 9, 2005 13:44:44 GMT -5
finally we've got a good discussion on here... only problem is... nobody can possibly win it... still shut the fuck up about slagging off Paul... if you do that you've just got no class... and no idea of music history, let alone taste Paul is a slag, a fucking washed up has-been . Just cause he wrote a good tune back in the day dosen't mean he's the King. Lennon was much more interesting and insightful. Hell, George is cooler than Paul . And Fuck off about music history and taste, if Paul's tunes are your idea of a good time then 'to each his own,' I just don't like people blowing off Oasis as being "derivative." What a load of mince. I love Lennon and his music, but the only reason he is held in such hero worship by people is because he is dead. If he was still alive and making music today like Paul is, you'd probably be calling him a 'fucking washed-up has been' too. As you say, each to their own, but if you cant see his infulence on the Beatles music, well to use a saying from round my way - 'yer heid is up yer jacksie'. As for Oasis being derivitive, of course they are! Havent you seen Noels haircut? Noel has nicked every chord and riff from the last 30 years of rock music! Which isnt a bad thing, he does it brilliantly, and thats what makes him such a genius in my eyes and what makes me love his music as much as I do. |
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Post by Guess God Thinks I'm Cain on Jul 9, 2005 14:24:14 GMT -5
Noel has stole every chord from the last 30 years Apparently you haven't heard the first four Beatles albums, mate. The Beatles are the most derivative band that ever existed. Gimme a break . You're right Lennon is a hero , but not caue he's dead, Paul died along time ago so that means nothing  . Lennon is a hero cause he was, and remained through his solo years, humble and working class, even if he did drive a Rolls. Unlike Paul who after all these years is still claiming that The Beatles invented Jimi Hendrix, Mtv, and fucking every chord known to rock and roll. Lennon was the balls and Paul is just a dick. After all he's done he still needs to call a band, which worships him, "derivative. " If you want to call oasis "derivative" go ahead friend, I'll just call it Rock and Roll |
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Jul 9, 2005 14:33:43 GMT -5
can't believe how one can even dare to doubten maccas legacy. i wont go and call you fanboys cos i think it's good to have a discussion about this but folks, let's be realistic.
a man who (assisted by another genius) changed the face of music worldwide and forever until the end of human life within 6 or 7 years and made some acceptable pop contributions during his solo career should be granted the possibility to call oasis derivative. i'm sure he has deep respect for noel as he is stated to like the songs Whatever, Slide Away and Live Forever (according to Noel)
but there'S no reason to get angry when he talks about oasis nicking chords and lyrics for their own songs.
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Post by turnupthetruth on Jul 9, 2005 15:01:59 GMT -5
Who cares about the "chords." What matters is the finished, end result. Oasis songs don't sound like the Beatles. Oasis is totally different in terms of sound and style. I can listen to every Oasis album from start to finish, enjoying every song (with SOTSOG as an exception.) There isn't one Beatles album that I can listen to from start to finish. All there albums are 2 to 4 good songs surrounded by a bunch of horrible songs. The best album in my opinion is Revolver. And even for that one, I can only listen to the second half of the album, beacause the first half is garbage.
A nod to whoever said Eleanor Rigby sucks. It's horrible! After listening to Yellow Submarine more than once, you'll want to shoot yourself.
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Post by globe on Jul 9, 2005 15:20:24 GMT -5
Noel has stole every chord from the last 30 years Apparently you haven't heard the first four Beatles albums, mate. The Beatles are the most derivative band that ever existed. Gimme a break . You're right Lennon is a hero , but not caue he's dead, Paul died along time ago so that means nothing . Lennon is a hero cause he was, and remained through his solo years, humble and working class, even if he did drive a Rolls. Unlike Paul who after all these years is still claiming that The Beatles invented Jimi Hendrix, Mtv, and fucking every chord known to rock and roll. Lennon was the balls and Paul is just a dick. After all he's done he still needs to call a band, which worships him, "derivative. " If you want to call oasis "derivative" go ahead friend, I'll just call it Rock and Roll I didnt say The Beatles didnt steal chords, riffs etc, where did I say that? Oasis are derivative, their influences are laid out for all to see in every one of their records and Im not just talking about The Beatles. Im not saying thats a bad thing, far from it. If you want to call Macca a washed-out has been, go ahead friend, I'll just call him a great song writer and musician. |
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Post by globe on Jul 9, 2005 15:21:52 GMT -5
Who cares about the "chords." What matters is the finished, end result. Oasis songs don't sound like the Beatles. Oasis is totally different in terms of sound and style. I can listen to every Oasis album from start to finish, enjoying every song (with SOTSOG as an exception.) There isn't one Beatles album that I can listen to from start to finish. All there albums are 2 to 4 good songs surrounded by a bunch of horrible songs. The best album in my opinion is Revolver. And even for that one, I can only listen to the second half of the album, beacause the first half is garbage. A nod to whoever said Eleanor Rigby sucks. It's horrible! After listening to Yellow Submarine more than once, you'll want to shoot yourself. I dont care about chords, I was just making a point, if you cant see that then so be it. If you can listen to BHN and SOTSOG all the way thorugh and enjoy every track then great. |
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Post by turnupthetruth on Jul 9, 2005 17:54:32 GMT -5
Did you not read where I said "with SOTSOG as an exception" If you don't know how to read than so be it as well. |
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Post by globe on Jul 9, 2005 17:59:42 GMT -5
Did you not read where I said "with SOTSOG as an exception" If you don't know how to read than so be it as well. Im sorry, misread your post. Please accept my humble apologies. |
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Post by turnupthetruth on Jul 9, 2005 18:45:34 GMT -5
No problem. Sorry for the insult.
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Post by Toast960 on Jul 10, 2005 16:41:42 GMT -5
As stated above, this was a few years ago, when Paul had released "Driving Rain". Someone mentioned that Oasis had insulted the Beatles and Paul just kinda dismissed them.
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Post by bagel on Jul 10, 2005 21:21:21 GMT -5
In a hypothetical alternate universe where Noel wrote Let it Be or Eleanor Rigby or Yesterday, and they were on Don't Believe the Truth, I'd bet my house everyone on this forum slagging them off would probably be popping boners all over them. Oasis is a great band, but that doesn't mean anyone who suggests a criticism of them is instantly shit. Plus yes, the Beatles had several covers on their first album, as did any act at the time of its release. So let's not act like the Beatles were short on songs and constantly resorted to covers. They wrote way more songs than Oasis, and in less time.
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Post by supersonicdelboy on Jul 11, 2005 17:11:52 GMT -5
got to say, been readin this with interest, and to be fair, mccartney has only written about 3 songs in the last 30 years that are worth remembering, i dont care if mull of kintyre went platinum, the reality is trhat its rotten.
mCCartney stated this on howard stern back before be here now came out as because lets be honest, after WTSMG, everyone thought that Oasis were the band that would finally conquer the world the way the beatles did, well until the tour exploded in 96 anyway! ;D So he may have been a little anxious his band would have been overtaken.And id have first 2 Oasis albums over any beatles album, anyday of the week
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Post by costello on Jul 11, 2005 18:35:59 GMT -5
got to say, been readin this with interest, and to be fair, mccartney has only written about 3 songs in the last 30 years that are worth remembering, i dont care if mull of kintyre went platinum, the reality is trhat its rotten. mCCartney stated this on howard stern back before be here now came out as because lets be honest, after WTSMG, everyone thought that Oasis were the band that would finally conquer the world the way the beatles did, well until the tour exploded in 96 anyway! ;D So he may have been a little anxious his band would have been overtaken.And id have first 2 Oasis albums over any beatles album, anyday of the week What a joke....Paul anxious !!! Believe it or not I am a huge Oasis fan but history has spoken... Oasis 1994-1997 The Beatles 1963- 1970 |
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Post by thebluesgnr on Jul 11, 2005 22:07:58 GMT -5
What a joke....Paul anxious !!! Believe it or not I am a huge Oasis fan but history has spoken... Oasis 1994-1997 The Beatles 1963- 1970 I don't agree with all the Beatles/McCartney bashing (to be honest I can't believe what I'm reading), but Oasis is still alive. 1994- many years to come. |
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People who haven't had a hit in the last 40 years should shut the f*ck up. 
. He didn't invent the fucking wheel, mate. Rock and Roll would still be alive with, without, despite The Beatles 
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. Just cause he wrote a good tune back in the day dosen't mean he's the King. Lennon was much more interesting and insightful. Hell, George is cooler than Paul 
. Lennon is a hero cause he was, and remained through his solo years, humble and working class, even if he did drive a Rolls. 
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