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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2005 8:13:14 GMT -5
the kids that buy music today are robots , whatever is promoted is sold (coldplay fifty jayz u2) back when i was a kid if a lp was good word of mouth in your high school went around and the lp took off..back in 78 when van halen opened for sabbath , they blew them off the stage within a week word was everywhere about this youn guitarist who was like jimmy page, and the VH legend was born.. today if its not packaged , promoted, and played on mtv kids wont buy it...it sickens me to the point where i am done with music man
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Post by ingotheranchhand on Jun 8, 2005 8:44:42 GMT -5
Welcome to the 21st century American corporate machine.
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Post by peregrin on Jun 8, 2005 9:22:38 GMT -5
it's sad, but think, every beginning has and end, and this factory/circus won't stay forever, I hope it.
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Post by doggboy10 on Jun 8, 2005 12:20:36 GMT -5
it's sad, but think, every beginning has and end, and this factory/circus won't stay forever, I hope it. Yeah the corporate state of music is terrible, Even in the better albums you can tell they were made for an american audience(Cos there the biggest music buyers worldwide) Coldplays album is great but has been made with the US market as its main target. But don't lose hope with Oasis sales yet, this album has done alot more in most countries than what they've done in the past (German #2, Japan #1 US top 15 and #1 uk 1st week and apparently has sold a shedload more this week, amazon 3rd bestseller, HMV 2nd bestseller, play 2nd bestseller and son on) and all this has been done off the back of a "So called" poor 1st single (not my words), theres still gonna be at least 3 more singles and one of those could be the potentially massive "Let there be love", not forgetting the gigs which usually boost sales quite alot. Oasis (or many others) ain't gonna sell like they used to or Coldplay cos that doesn't happen very often, But there still doing very impressive numbers. Don't get to upset people there really is no need for it. The Boys are BACKCheers doggboy
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Post by USOasis86 on Jun 8, 2005 12:39:03 GMT -5
but its not just the #'s (it is in a way) but its the fact that people like me get ragged on about them and most of the time i give them the one two and kick to the chest and they'll shut up but the rest of the time i'll fight verbally with certain people........like this one kid thats going to the boston show.....gives me shit about oasis and says weezer is a better band.....i ask him everytime if there such a better band why haven't they sold out to half of a million peole or how come they're not in the record books......and i'll go on until i ask him if weezer is so great how come your going to the concert in june.....i want to deck him so bad but i can't cause hes a teamate of mine and my coach wouldn't like it very much if i laid him out on the field......so if anyone whos going to the boston and wants to give him a hard time....reply back and let me know i'll point him out to you
Dan, Cheers
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Post by DixonHill on Jun 8, 2005 12:49:45 GMT -5
the kids won't eat it up unless it's packaged properly.
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Post by Bizzle on Jun 8, 2005 13:26:29 GMT -5
Shut it. Jay-Z, U2 and Coldplay are great. Agrre wit ya bout 50 and america mostly though. It's those white kids i tell ya. They wanna be black.
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Jun 8, 2005 13:29:06 GMT -5
lennon's or whoever's rule "you cant bullshit the kids" might not count anymore but i have at least hope that the whole pimp-music or music to promote your clothes-gear attitude will implode and vanish...doesnt look to realistic eh...
btw. coldplay dint produce an american album come on.... it's not that much to the point and rather complicated..although there are some nice tunes on it.
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Post by doggboy10 on Jun 8, 2005 13:29:50 GMT -5
Shut it. Jay-Z, U2 and Coldplay are great. Agrre wit ya bout 50 and america mostly though. It's those white kids i tell ya. They wanna be black. I though U2' last album was very average and sold due to the fact there U2 and that Bono is always at the whitehouse or on some fucking benefit show. Coldplay are good, new albums good and most of all there media darlings. Jay-Z, can't really comment to be honest
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Post by doggboy10 on Jun 8, 2005 13:33:25 GMT -5
lennon's or whoever's rule "you cant bullshit the kids" might not count anymore but i have at least hope that the whole pimp-music or music to promote your clothes-gear attitude will implode and vanish...doesnt look to realistic eh... btw. coldplay dint produce an american album come on.... it's not that much to the point and rather complicated..although there are some nice tunes on it. Don't get me wrong m8 coldplays albums a corker! but compared to there 1st 2 albums this has the most American sound out of them all (All very similar to either Clocks or the Scientist which were massive in the US) Cheers doggboy
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Post by rdwngthirty on Jun 8, 2005 14:04:58 GMT -5
i dont understand it either, i think it has to do with the fact that nobody knows about music anymore. musicians and musically informed people liek good bands, while musically ignorant people see a album called"bulletproff" that is loud and the lead singer (or talker, rap isnt really singing imo) is a hard ass, and they dont know what good "music is" so they fuckin follow the other bad music buyers...ask a rap fan to recognize acoustic guitar from electric, or explain WHY their music is so sweet, and they cant do it...its ll about following....and garbage like roling stone doesnt help either by praising rap and "emancipation of mimi" as greta music.....its all about the money, not hte music
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2005 14:22:16 GMT -5
Shut it. Jay-Z, U2 and Coldplay are great. Agrre wit ya bout 50 and america mostly though. It's those white kids i tell ya. They wanna be black. its sad but true...and for the record i never "shut it" unless someone can physically force me to and it aint happened in 39 years ;D...lol....but i get your point bro.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jun 8, 2005 14:59:19 GMT -5
another idotic statement by kalas. this isn't a problem that has only creeped up recently. i mean look at the velvet underground, love, and the beach boys from pet sounds post. they never sold a lot of records and put out amazing albums. once again you have no idea what your talking about.
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Post by brumoscardo on Jun 8, 2005 15:19:43 GMT -5
another idotic statement by kalas. this isn't a problem that has only creeped up recently. i mean look at the velvet underground, love, and the beach boys from pet sounds post. they never sold a lot of records and put out amazing albums. once again you have no idea what your talking about. Hello The Beat brysonbryson. Thought you were long gone. At least you should've
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2005 15:25:47 GMT -5
another idotic statement by kalas. this isn't a problem that has only creeped up recently. i mean look at the velvet underground, love, and the beach boys from pet sounds post. they never sold a lot of records and put out amazing albums. once again you have no idea what your talking about. ooh called out by a jerkoff named xtrmnscream ,,i am crushed 54 posts and most critricing me fuck off you peice of shit..i dont slag off members like u do and a few others on here do for no reason . and am not afraid to open myself up to a pussy like yourself hiding behind a pc. SO EAT SHIT AND DIE and iof u have real balls say it to my face ..but a pussy like yourself will make some "witty remark" in the safe haven of your house ...YOUR A FUCKIN PUSSY
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jun 8, 2005 16:18:24 GMT -5
another idotic statement by kalas. this isn't a problem that has only creeped up recently. i mean look at the velvet underground, love, and the beach boys from pet sounds post. they never sold a lot of records and put out amazing albums. once again you have no idea what your talking about. ooh called out by a jerkoff named xtrmnscream ,,i am crushed 54 posts and most critricing me fuck off you peice of shit..i dont slag off members like u do and a few others on here do for no reason . and am not afraid to open myself up to a pussy like yourself hiding behind a pc. SO EAT SHIT AND DIE and iof u have real balls say it to my face ..but a pussy like yourself will make some "witty remark" in the safe haven of your house ...YOUR A FUCKIN PUSSY you have some piss poor grammar for a 40 year old. i know the nyc public system is poor but this is horrible. can you come up with anything better than criticizing my name and post count, how childish. however if you are interested in the basis of my name xtrmntr is a album by primal scream hence the scream tacked on at the end. now on to my post count i just like reading the forum for the most part, so i keep a low profile.
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Post by DixonHill on Jun 8, 2005 16:20:16 GMT -5
oh. exalt for anybody who can tell me which song the line in my first post (in this thread) came from.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jun 8, 2005 16:22:20 GMT -5
oh. exalt for anybody who can tell me which song the line in my first post (in this thread) came from. it's a nirvana song i can't remember what it's called though
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Post by globe on Jun 8, 2005 16:24:13 GMT -5
ooh called out by a jerkoff named xtrmnscream ,,i am crushed 54 posts and most critricing me fuck off you peice of shit..i dont slag off members like u do and a few others on here do for no reason . and am not afraid to open myself up to a pussy like yourself hiding behind a pc. SO EAT SHIT AND DIE and iof u have real balls say it to my face ..but a pussy like yourself will make some "witty remark" in the safe haven of your house ...YOUR A FUCKIN PUSSY you have some piss poor grammar for a 40 year old. i know the nyc public system is poor but this is horrible. can you come up with anything better than criticizing my name and post count, how childish. however if you are interested in the basis of my name xtrmntr is a album by primal scream hence the scream tacked on at the end. now on to my post count i just like reading the forum for the most part, so i keep a low profile. Well the public system where your from must be worse because you obviously cant read. Kalas didnt critisize your name, he merely named you. He also didnt critisize the amount of posts you have, merely the fact that most of them have been to have a go at him. I agree with him. You're a belter, you only come on here, it appears, to cause confrontation.
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Post by DixonHill on Jun 8, 2005 16:26:55 GMT -5
oh. exalt for anybody who can tell me which song the line in my first post (in this thread) came from. it's a nirvana song i can't remember what it's called though yes. it's on incesticide.
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Post by Jabasso on Jun 8, 2005 16:29:56 GMT -5
you have some piss poor grammar for a 40 year old. i know the nyc public system is poor but this is horrible. can you come up with anything better than criticizing my name and post count, how childish. however if you are interested in the basis of my name xtrmntr is a album by primal scream hence the scream tacked on at the end. now on to my post count i just like reading the forum for the most part, so i keep a low profile. Well the public system where your from must be worse because you obviously cant read. Kalas didnt critisize your name, he merely named you. He also didnt critisize the amount of posts you have, merely the fact that most of them have been to have a go at him. I agree with him. You're a belter, you only come on here, it appears, to cause confrontation. He also comes on to use up our downloads. He's a belter AND a leech.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jun 8, 2005 16:33:41 GMT -5
Well the public system where your from must be worse because you obviously cant read. Kalas didnt critisize your name, he merely named you. He also didnt critisize the amount of posts you have, merely the fact that most of them have been to have a go at him. I agree with him. You're a belter, you only come on here, it appears, to cause confrontation. He also comes on to use up our downloads. He's a belter AND a leech. that statement is simply preposterous considering i leaked don't believe the truth and ran #madferit on irc for years. but you know everything
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2005 16:36:32 GMT -5
He also comes on to use up our downloads. He's a belter AND a leech. that statement is simply preposterous considering i leaked don't believe the truth and ran #madferit on irc for years. but you know everything you are a fuckin dick ..come on big boy lets dance u pussy
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Post by Jabasso on Jun 8, 2005 16:36:34 GMT -5
Wow. That puts you up on my scale! You leaked an album and hurt the record sales! You are a true Oasis fan. I always put people who let kids on kazaa have an album without buying it. Thanks so much! And you're probably a liar too.
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Post by globe on Jun 8, 2005 16:36:58 GMT -5
Well the public system where your from must be worse because you obviously cant read. Kalas didnt critisize your name, he merely named you. He also didnt critisize the amount of posts you have, merely the fact that most of them have been to have a go at him. I agree with him. You're a belter, you only come on here, it appears, to cause confrontation. He also comes on to use up our downloads. He's a belter AND a leech. lol since when did you start talking Scottish vanicular slang? ;D Good work Jab.
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