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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 6, 2005 0:31:17 GMT -5
look at half the twats on this board wasting their own and the true fans time. i sincerely don't mean to be a tosser but i'm afraid i have to come across like it to make my point clear. after nu-metal lost it's appeal to kids the record companies needed a new genre to fill in for the cool kids. along came the strokes, brmc etc. at first i was excited about the music too and thought it was great that my kind of music finally got recognised. the problem was that after 2 listens and looking into those bands backgrounds it became very apparent that they were just britney spears knock offs in scummy clothes. after that i didnt bother with those bands and havent bought any new release for almost 2 years (there's enough in the past to bother with this shite). anyway, now that the new oasis album was coming around i started posting on an oasisboard again and to my disgust found that half the twats on here are people who were bought into oasis because of that chummy marketing scheme. i just can't take you serious and i have to be a vagina to rid myself of the rage some of these posts are building up in me.
i would greatly appreciate some intelligent replies. fell free to agree or disagree but please make sense and don't just leave me a weak one liner with a smiley face. thank you
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Post by rockandroll on Jun 6, 2005 2:09:48 GMT -5
First of all, your post is a little confusing. I don't know If you're complaining that Oasis is getting fans that just want to be cool cause Oasis is hip again or you're complaining of the fact that this forum is filled with new members that are not really Oasis fans...Either way here's what I think... I'm new in this forum, however I've been an Oasis fan for about eight years or so. I can't really comment about new people coming to this forum, right? I'm no one to say who's a real fan and who's jumping in the Oasis bandwagon, for what I know some people might think that I'm not as a big fan as they are....especially if you consider that I spend too much time in the lounge ;D...in the other hand, I've noticed that some people make questions or requests rather silly...if they're new REAL fans, I can understand that they wanna learn about the band and stuff, and what better place to do it than in an oasis forum with die-hard fans, right?...But some look like they're sucking the good will of the forum members. About new and trendy music, I know what you mean, I'm in the same situation really...I can't get excited about new bands anymore...except for The Libertines and Coldplay, which I know for a fact you hate both of them with a passion. Fine, to each its own.....But you have to understand that music works that way, if new kids are buying Oasis because the whole ''they're back'' campaign, it's pretty much the same reason they were popular in the first place...they had the ''rock n roll saviours'' campaign...everybody loved them and they told you that you must love them too...then they got tired of them and people turned their backs...the ones left were the real fans...and those are the responsible that Oasis is still around... Luckily, of all these new fans, some will remain loyal...and the opportunists will go for the next big thing in no time...that's just the way it is... I guess what I tried to say (in a very messy way) is that not all of the new fans are fakers, some will stay as soon as they discover all they've missed so far.......and the others....well, fuck 'em for what I care... That felt pretty good...
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Post by Dominic on Jun 6, 2005 5:08:00 GMT -5
well im 17 and have no spots - but ive been an oasis fan since the begining - when i heard married with children in september 94
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Jun 6, 2005 5:51:57 GMT -5
this is probably just a misconception but are you, s00, reckoning "i dont want my little band to have more fans because theyre not indie or die-hard or not interested in the band itself but just in the music" ??
if so i cannot agree. firstly, oasis deserved to be one of the biggest bands in the world just cos their music is .. i mean no further comment necessary but they arent even a hard working band in terms of promotion, so worrying that they may become another U2 is pointless. to me it's just a generation of youngsters being fed up with plastic pop and shit US-rock (no doubt, shisdem of a down etc) so they turn to whats real and really good...apparently oasis is..
i see this "movement", particularly in europe, since heathen chemistry which was tho it's widely criticized by definitely-maybe-above-all-dipshits a fine album, as anthemic as oasis should sound plus some experimental stuff.. whether we like it or not oasis are still important and can produce an important album at least every once in a while and thats why a lot of indie groups and fans like them
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2005 7:53:05 GMT -5
i can see your point shaker..back when i was one of the first people around to love u2 i felt a bit betrayed when they went so commercial and to my thinking alienated the fans that brought them to the summit i was disgusted when people who didnt even hear sunday bloody sunday or i will follow go on how they always loved them.....same thing with OASIS i go back to the begining i was in the uk when they broke and ir was mega..nbut you have to expect them to get younger fans if they are to thrive in the future shakes it was like zep i was turned on to them by my older cousin so i guess the older fans considered me new and didnt like me but here i am 39 years old turninig on my nephew to oasis and zep he is 12 and loves it! you need the young ones to keep a band thriving ,i have learned to biter my tounge alot more than i used to i never realised how young alot of members here were i think thats good because OASIS are attracting a new fanbase and beats the hell out of them listening to rap ....when i see posts from peoiple that are young that i dont like i dont respond
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Post by steveo1980 on Jun 6, 2005 8:49:25 GMT -5
you sure, that would of made you 6!! at the release of DM started learn the ways of oasis early then i like it
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Post by djlen74 on Jun 6, 2005 9:48:17 GMT -5
Well I have been madferrit since WTSMG... I will admit that DM went right over my head way back then... but then when I heard it I was blown away and have been a fan ever since, so I guess I got into them around 95-96 or so. And no matter what happens, I will be there until the end.
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Post by djlen74 on Jun 6, 2005 9:48:57 GMT -5
Is this thread about age BTW? I'm turning 31 next month, BTW.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 6, 2005 11:12:46 GMT -5
you sure, that would of made you 6!! at the release of DM started learn the ways of oasis early then i like it well my birthday is at the start or september so i was either 6 or 7, but 6 sounds better so we'll go with that, mates big brother Joel (was like a good back then) threw headphones at me and told me to listen, and it was married with children, it and Digpys dinner where my Fav back in the day
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Post by God In A Phonebox on Jun 6, 2005 11:51:28 GMT -5
Is this thread about age BTW? I'm turning 31 next month, BTW. Happy bithday!
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Post by biged500 on Jun 6, 2005 13:38:00 GMT -5
i had loads of this a couple of weeks back, i went to a couple of bruce springsteen gigs. now oasis and the stone roses aside, hes my favourite artist, for whatever reason, ive liked him since i can remember, same with oasis. Im only 19, and im sure hte way i look or dress is deemed "trendy" in the eyes of bruce springsteens fanbase, but me and my friends were looked upon with some disgust for simply attending the gigs in dublin and london, "look, what are they doing here, i bet they dont even like bruce"
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Post by beekayhimself on Jun 6, 2005 14:06:53 GMT -5
well im 17 and have no spots - but ive been an oasis fan since the begining - when i heard married with children in september 94 I'm 18 and started liking them when i first saw the roll with it video premier on MTV on a summer afternoon in 1995.
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Post by djlen74 on Jun 6, 2005 15:09:16 GMT -5
Thank you, God In A Phonebox!
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Post by djlen74 on Jun 6, 2005 15:15:08 GMT -5
I am old enough to remember what it was like when Born In The USA came out... all these teeny boppers came out of the woodwork saying, "oh, like he's sooo rad", imagine, at 35 years old he was every teen girl's dream! lol... they never heard Born To Run or Hungry Heart before and they were calling themselves real fans... I bet that if the average teen girl of 1985 heard the song Born To Run she'd probably say "who's that old fart singing that?? Probably someone my dad likes to listen to" LOL
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Post by themanwithnoname on Jun 6, 2005 15:50:20 GMT -5
I agree that it can get very annoying when people jump on a bandwagon when a band like Oasis become "in" again but if they're genuine fans who've just discovered them then the more the merrier I say.
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Post by Guess God Thinks I'm Cain on Jun 6, 2005 15:51:54 GMT -5
I agree that it can get very annoying when people jump on a bandwagon when a band like Oasis become "in" again but if they're genuine fans who've just discovered them then the more the merrier I say. Yeah. We've all been there. Welcome all.
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Post by DixonHill on Jun 6, 2005 16:37:43 GMT -5
are oasis cool anymore? i don't think so.
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Post by start at the end on Jun 6, 2005 16:40:17 GMT -5
man its senseless to worry about how others perceive or react to "your" band. especially if "your" band is named oasis. you can be sure you'll run into thousands of naysayers that you can never hope to convert, along with thousands of tailgating bums that will appear with every release (sometimes more than others as we will probably see with DBTT) enjoy the music (thats what its really about anyways, innit?), and have a good laugh at all the predictable bullshit once in a while along the way. trust me you'll save a lot of hair and breath this way.
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 6, 2005 17:15:07 GMT -5
did anyone get my point? of course not. who am i to judge anyone? excactly. mark my words when you see how some people who are posting shitloads of crap right now and think they're king loui will grow sick of oasis in 2 months and disappear of this forum and go to the next cool thing that's waiting around the corner. that's what's pissing me off, it has nothing to do with how old someone is or how long someone has liked oasis. my friend jules got into oasis after shoulders and has slept in the rain sold her stereo and done allsorts of shite to see them so i am really not biased on someones age or anything. i know that you can be just as mad fer it if you got into them a week ago or 10 years ago. i simply have a problem with fuckin vaginas who get expensive indie haircuts and act like vaginas. i will try to find another friends blog about the indie scene and post it here too.
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 6, 2005 17:24:55 GMT -5
i actually just found this yesterday and read it right before this post. maybe that fueled my anger about that one vagina on here. i talked to this bird bout hair and crap and the scene and drugs and tits etc. before i was waken up. i believe it fits in here so here ya go
last entry
hello indie fans! that's why you're here no doubt. you may have just found this website after doing a search for 'indie girl' on google, or you might be a return visitor curious to know where i've been these past nearly-6-months. well, i've been on a journey. a journey of discovery... and now brothers and sisters, i'm here to show you the light, to show you were you've been going wrong, and why those people rip the piss out of you every saturday night. read on...
now, just a few short months ago i began to become somewhat disenchanted with what is now widely (and wrongly) classed in the media as the 'indie' scene. i'm not talking about real indie, i'm talking about the crap clothes, crapper haircuts, lace fucking gloves and 'the' bands peddled by monthly publications such as the face, sleazenation, i-D, and so on. think of them as colostomy bags, collecting all the refuse and chanel-scented shit that no-one would care or want to discover on their own.
anyway, flicking through one of these magazines, i began to see a trend. well, not so much 'trend', more a media disease. front to back, there was nothing but stories on stuck up middle class kids competing with each other to see who can look most faux-fucked-up, sticking a weak, pale, useless, and utterly forgettable finger up at the establishment. it was just nothing. it's never to be remembered. there's no substance, no thought, no new ideas and sparse talent gone into making the bastardised-indieness that is now the 'the' scene.
am i bitter? hell yeah, i'm bitter! they took away every ounce of coolness and credibility that was once the life-blood of guitar music scene. i know this all too well because i was sucked into it, for a good 2 years. deep into the bowels of the filthy white-middle-class-teenager infected excuse for a 'scene' that it is.
it's pretentious beyond belief, which would be alright if it was just saying something... punk for example was enormously pretentious, but at least it had something to be pretentious about. it was new, it had impact, it was shocking. this scene today, whatever it may be called, is mopey, stuck up, half-assed, and incessantly dull.
so brothers and sisters, let me tell you, that is not the path to take. that path leads to 80's fashion, ironic hair and media arse-lickery. don't believe everything they say like i did! i'm not one of them now. i'm not a blonde-and-black-hair sporting bint any more. ah how happy i am to be free! now i can see it from the outside, i can see the absurdness of it all. the least i can do is try to help more people out of it, you think getting off heroin sounds hard? pff...
well there we go, i rambled a bit but the whole purpose of the entry was really to crap on the scene style mags. i just thought i'd let everyone know where i've been aswell... what a fantabulous journey it was! will i blog again? probably not, at least not on here. however long i've had this thing is too long for me, and probably all of you too. just the domain name makes me cringe... i can't apologise enough for past blog entries over the last couple of years. it could almost be a spoof couldn't it?
goodbye to all my loyal visitors, feel good! i'm off now to live a long and happy life, safe in the knowledge that i've cleased myself of all past fashion, writing, and music sins. remember, if anyone asks you if you're into the scene and like the libertines, just tell them to fuck off. bollocks and fuck off.
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Post by Wonderfan on Jun 6, 2005 21:24:03 GMT -5
Hmmm..not a spotty faced teenager, but been digging them for 10 years or so...assume I shall continue to do so, even though I haven't been posting here that long. Can't understand your rage over people's haircuts??? Seriously that is really petty. Why do you care? Do you think Oasis care? Silly to get upset...people are going to do what they want to do regardless. Why worry about things you have no control over?
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Post by 729 on Jun 7, 2005 4:52:24 GMT -5
No need to worry. As much as we love the band, it's probably cooler to like Sigue Sigue Sputnik than Oasis.
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Post by djlen74 on Jun 7, 2005 5:42:38 GMT -5
Shaker, like I said, I have loved Oasis since WTSMG, so that puts me at just about 10 years being madferit, is it because I just joined the forum only a few months ago that you don't consider me a real fan? You certainly have a right to your opinion, however I don't think I would sleep out in the rain, sell my house, pimp my momma, etc. etc. to see them. Or even to see The Beatles for that matter, or Zep, or anyone. However I do own every Oasis album, have spent shitloads of $$$ over the years on tons of bootlegs, and will be seeing them twice this summer, MSG and Tweeter Center. Was going to see them in 2002, but we all remember (I hope anyway) what happened to the Boston show that year. I hope you realise that living in the United States, it is a bit difficult to keep track of Oasis, as they JUST DON'T GET ENOUGH EXPOSURE OVER HERE!! THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS!!! (Thank GOD for the internet and this forum!!!) I wish I had access to MTV Europe, and all of these networks that show Oasis gigs and videos on a regular basis. But I don't. Weather or not I consititute as a real fan in your eyes, is beyond me and something I have little control over. I originally thought that when you started this thread you were taking aim at the teeny boppers that will run out to the store and buy the latest 50 cent CD, or Coldplay/Keane JUST BECUASE a radio station like Kiss 108 is playing them once EVRY SINGLE HOUR and telling all of them, "THIS BAND IS COOL, WHY? BECAUSE WE PLAY THEM ONCE AN HOUR AND BESIDES WE *SAY* THEY ARE SO THEY MUST BE!! SO EVERYONE RUN OUT TO THE MALL TO SAM GOODY AND BUY THEIR RECORD FOR $18.99, KIDDIES!" But it looks like I gave you too much credit.
By the way, for the record, I keep my hair buzzed. Would that type of haircut befit the true Oasis fan?
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 8, 2005 3:31:57 GMT -5
Shaker, like I said, I have loved Oasis since WTSMG, so that puts me at just about 10 years being madferit, is it because I just joined the forum only a few months ago that you don't consider me a real fan? You certainly have a right to your opinion, however I don't think I would sleep out in the rain, sell my house, pimp my momma, etc. etc. to see them. Or even to see The Beatles for that matter, or Zep, or anyone. However I do own every Oasis album, have spent shitloads of $$$ over the years on tons of bootlegs, and will be seeing them twice this summer, MSG and Tweeter Center. Was going to see them in 2002, but we all remember (I hope anyway) what happened to the Boston show that year. I hope you realise that living in the United States, it is a bit difficult to keep track of Oasis, as they JUST DON'T GET ENOUGH EXPOSURE OVER HERE!! THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS!!! (Thank GOD for the internet and this forum!!!) I wish I had access to MTV Europe, and all of these networks that show Oasis gigs and videos on a regular basis. But I don't. Weather or not I consititute as a real fan in your eyes, is beyond me and something I have little control over. I originally thought that when you started this thread you were taking aim at the teeny boppers that will run out to the store and buy the latest 50 cent CD, or Coldplay/Keane JUST BECUASE a radio station like Kiss 108 is playing them once EVRY SINGLE HOUR and telling all of them, "THIS BAND IS COOL, WHY? BECAUSE WE PLAY THEM ONCE AN HOUR AND BESIDES WE *SAY* THEY ARE SO THEY MUST BE!! SO EVERYONE RUN OUT TO THE MALL TO SAM GOODY AND BUY THEIR RECORD FOR $18.99, KIDDIES!" But it looks like I gave you too much credit. By the way, for the record, I keep my hair buzzed. Would that type of haircut befit the true Oasis fan? thanks for the long post and giving me the benefit og the dount, finally..evryone. ya know i live in the states myself. been living in different other countries where they dont get any exposure and all that and at the end of the day there really are more important things to worry about really. i once got really caught up in all this crap and lived my life by it and made some bad, fast decisions because of it. it was an experience ya know. when it comes down to the cheese all i dont agree with are fakers. i fuckin dropped out of school because of oasis, i did lots of other things that totally changed my life because of oasis. i fucked alot of birds because of oasis, ya know, its all what you make out of it, when it comes down to it you only have yourself to answer to. being a fake fuck only puts yourself in a bad position. just be fuckin real. i dont get people who act thats all and im a ramblin drunk vagina i know and i dont make sense 90 percent of tje time i know and millwallpete or whatber yer called ta
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Post by djlen74 on Jun 8, 2005 5:38:05 GMT -5
Hey it's cool, shaker... anyways it's just the internet, so who realy gives a fuck if you rub someone the wrong way... you're just taking advantage of an open forum and stating your case an if someone doesn't like it they can take a leap. Dropping out of school for a band seems a bit harsh, in my eyes, I don't think Noel would feel too good about that if he knew. However, isn't it funny how a band can get the birds lining up for ya! But yeah, in reality, it shows how fucked up the music biz is nowadays, when DBTT is pure fucking class and better than 99% of the other shit, and it debuts at #12 on the U.S. album chart... the plain and simple reason is that the TV and radio over here is FUCKING THEM... they JUST DON'T PLAY THEM, and it pisses me off.... then like I said I have nothing against Coldplay but they are the flavor of the month over here and X&Y will get A LOT of play on U.S. airwaves and watch and see if it doesn't debut at #1 it will get damn close...
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