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Post by globe on Jun 1, 2005 20:40:03 GMT -5
I was just trying to make the point that he pretends to be something he isnt - the reason Graham Coxon left Blur. If you like his music, fine, on yersel. I think he's a clown. first of all that whole cockney thing died out in 1995. so stop bringing it up second graham left because his voice wasn't being heard musically anymore. third damon is a cockney technically he wasn't born in essex he was born in london and went to school with jonathan ross apparently up to age 9. So he stopped pretending to be a cockney in 1995 then? The fact of the matter is, he pretend to be something he isnt. Jarvis Cocker wrote a song about him, you should listen to it, its great.
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Post by reeder on Jun 1, 2005 21:51:41 GMT -5
XTRMNTRSCREAM....
isnt there a Gorillaz board somewhere? You better find it before bedtime...tell mommie I like a warm milk with my cookies.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jun 1, 2005 22:06:07 GMT -5
first of all that whole cockney thing died out in 1995. so stop bringing it up second graham left because his voice wasn't being heard musically anymore. third damon is a cockney technically he wasn't born in essex he was born in london and went to school with jonathan ross apparently up to age 9. So he stopped pretending to be a cockney in 1995 then? The fact of the matter is, he pretend to be something he isnt. Jarvis Cocker wrote a song about him, you should listen to it, its great. he is from east london i would say that would make him pretty fucking cockney.
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 2, 2005 1:22:42 GMT -5
everytime i come on here i read another idiotic statement by you. mucky fingers is a demo you swore up and down that was proven wrong. heathen chemistry is a good obviously anyone with ears knows thats bullshit. now you are taking a hit on gorillaz. why do you hate them, they are adventorus pop group that makes some great music. they work with some of hippest and most influential people in the music business today and if you listened to demon days its hardly a kids album. it's more of an adult record than the oasis one is. Last time I looked in the mirror, I had ears, and I like Heathen Chemistry. Everyone is entitled to their opinion mucker. My opinion of the Gorrilaz is that its shit. Albarn is a fake. A dull middle class plonker from somewhere in some non-descript part of Essex who pretends he's a cockney. Now he's a cartoon. Pretty apt I reckon, coz thats all he's ever been. spot fuckin on. the problem with the people on here is that they're too young or to american to understand what a townie with a imaginary suit is...
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 2, 2005 1:28:32 GMT -5
I was just trying to make the point that he pretends to be something he isnt - the reason Graham Coxon left Blur. If you like his music, fine, on yersel. I think he's a clown. first of all that whole cockney thing died out in 1995. so stop bringing it up second graham left because his voice wasn't being heard musically anymore. third damon is a cockney technically he wasn't born in essex he was born in london and went to school with jonathan ross apparently up to age 9. and you're a fuckin smarty pants vagina. jonathan fuckin ross?? have you read damon albarns fuckin diary? blurs first 3 albums were good music, i personally didnt listen to them cos i'm from newcastle and i aint no cockney lover, you're right those times are over and i openly admit that i liked the first three albums. after the great escape blur tried to reinvent themself, i.e. trying to apply themself to the musicscene, i.e selling out and brutally lost it. graham coxon was the only one with some sense and left the group. fuckin moneycounting damon decided to take it even further and do a fuckin puff daddy impression and you're trying to tell us that it's fuckin good?
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 2, 2005 1:33:10 GMT -5
fuck i can't believe xterminator. you like the gorillay, you like oasis and you like primal scream. you're a fuckin prick who listens to "indie" to fit in somewhere. why don't you just fuckin listen to whatever you really, stop using music as a mean to make you look cool and get the fuck out of this forum
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jun 2, 2005 2:07:58 GMT -5
first of all that whole cockney thing died out in 1995. so stop bringing it up second graham left because his voice wasn't being heard musically anymore. third damon is a cockney technically he wasn't born in essex he was born in london and went to school with jonathan ross apparently up to age 9. and you're a fuckin smarty pants vagina. jonathan fuckin ross?? have you read damon albarns fuckin diary? blurs first 3 albums were good music, i personally didnt listen to them cos i'm from newcastle and i aint no cockney lover, you're right those times are over and i openly admit that i liked the first three albums. after the great escape blur tried to reinvent themself, i.e. trying to apply themself to the musicscene, i.e selling out and brutally lost it. graham coxon was the only one with some sense and left the group. fuckin moneycounting damon decided to take it even further and do a fuckin puff daddy impression and you're trying to tell us that it's fuckin good? i didn't read damon's autobiography i read a book on brit pop that was made into the movie live forever. blur were in the for front of the brit pop movement infact they started it with modern life is rubbish. everything at that time was grunge or shoegaze stuff. blur came out with an album in modern life is rubbish that harkened back to the glory days of british music. with influences ranging from the kinks, the jam and xtc. after the great escape blur did anything but sell out. they embraced underground american music like pavement which was graham coxons idea. hence the much more low fi sound on tracks like beetlebum, your so great and essex dogs. also comparing gorillaz to puff daddy is just idiotic. you need to listen to demon days it's a complex listen and almost a concept record about the post 9/11 world. you have been owned
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jun 2, 2005 2:09:48 GMT -5
fuck i can't believe xterminator. you like the gorillay, you like oasis and you like primal scream. you're a fuckin prick who listens to "indie" to fit in somewhere. why don't you just fuckin listen to whatever you really, stop using music as a mean to make you look cool and get the fuck out of this forum it's called being eclectic if i was indie i would be listening to bands that were signed on indie labels and 40 records.
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 2, 2005 2:13:45 GMT -5
fuck i can't believe xterminator. you like the gorillay, you like oasis and you like primal scream. you're a fuckin prick who listens to "indie" to fit in somewhere. why don't you just fuckin listen to whatever you really, stop using music as a mean to make you look cool and get the fuck out of this forum the fact that you know what it's called proves my point it's called being eclectic if i was indie i would be listening to bands that were signed on indie labels and 40 records.
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 2, 2005 2:14:20 GMT -5
and you're a fuckin smarty pants vagina. jonathan fuckin ross?? have you read damon albarns fuckin diary? blurs first 3 albums were good music, i personally didnt listen to them cos i'm from newcastle and i aint no cockney lover, you're right those times are over and i openly admit that i liked the first three albums. after the great escape blur tried to reinvent themself, i.e. trying to apply themself to the musicscene, i.e selling out and brutally lost it. graham coxon was the only one with some sense and left the group. fuckin moneycounting damon decided to take it even further and do a fuckin puff daddy impression and you're trying to tell us that it's fuckin good? i didn't read damon's autobiography i read a book on brit pop that was made into the movie live forever. blur were in the for front of the brit pop movement infact they started it with modern life is rubbish. everything at that time was grunge or shoegaze stuff. blur came out with an album in modern life is rubbish that harkened back to the glory days of british music. with influences ranging from the kinks, the jam and xtc. after the great escape blur did anything but sell out. they embraced underground american music like pavement which was graham coxons idea. hence the much more low fi sound on tracks like beetlebum, your so great and essex dogs. also comparing gorillaz to puff daddy is just idiotic. you need to listen to demon days it's a complex listen and almost a concept record about the post 9/11 world. you have been owned nice post mr student twat
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jun 2, 2005 2:17:15 GMT -5
i didn't read damon's autobiography i read a book on brit pop that was made into the movie live forever. blur were in the for front of the brit pop movement infact they started it with modern life is rubbish. everything at that time was grunge or shoegaze stuff. blur came out with an album in modern life is rubbish that harkened back to the glory days of british music. with influences ranging from the kinks, the jam and xtc. after the great escape blur did anything but sell out. they embraced underground american music like pavement which was graham coxons idea. hence the much more low fi sound on tracks like beetlebum, your so great and essex dogs. also comparing gorillaz to puff daddy is just idiotic. you need to listen to demon days it's a complex listen and almost a concept record about the post 9/11 world. you have been owned nice post mr student twat thanks
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 2, 2005 2:18:15 GMT -5
modern life is rubbish is a great album, so is leisure and the great escape. you don't have to tell me, i already spat that out in a post i made before. however, modern life is rubbish did not do anything to promote britpop, i was alive when the album was released and it really didnt do anything except for kids who were already into YES indie. definitely maybe tore a second arsehole into the musicscene without promoting anything but being yourself. thats the difference, and thats why oasis are the biggest and best band of the 90s, now go fuck off again
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jun 2, 2005 2:22:01 GMT -5
modern life is rubbish is a great album, so is leisure and the great escape. you don't have to tell me, i already spat that out in a post i made before. however, modern life is rubbish did not do anything to promote britpop, i was alive when the album was released and it really didnt do anything except for kids who were already into YES indie. definitely maybe tore a second arsehole into the musicscene without promoting anything but being yourself. thats the difference, and thats why oasis are the biggest and best band of the 90s, now go fuck off again modern life is rubbish layed the groundwork for park life to become the cross over record it was to not only indie listeners but mainstream england. what does oasis have to do with our conversation i haven't questioned their musical worth once. but they weren't part of the brit pop movement in my eyes.
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jun 2, 2005 2:35:20 GMT -5
modern life is rubbish is a great album, so is leisure and the great escape. you don't have to tell me, i already spat that out in a post i made before. however, modern life is rubbish did not do anything to promote britpop, i was alive when the album was released and it really didnt do anything except for kids who were already into YES indie. definitely maybe tore a second arsehole into the musicscene without promoting anything but being yourself. thats the difference, and thats why oasis are the biggest and best band of the 90s, now go fuck off again modern life is rubbish layed the groundwork for park life to become the cross over record it was to not only indie listeners but mainstream england. what does oasis have to do with our conversation i haven't questioned their musical worth once. but they weren't part of the brit pop movement in my eyes. what the fuck did parklife do? i fuckin forgot about parklife completely, i'm not making this up i just forgot it was there. girls and boys and parklife yeah nice sugary tea very britpop. nah it didnt do anything. great album nevertheless but it didnt pave anything. and the reason i'm mentioning oasis is because well look at my post. i'm getting really buzzed right now so i cant really think straight and post sense but i enjoyed this conversation. atleast you're well read and have formed your oppinion around how someone else interpreted the mid 90s to have been like and are not just posting bollocks to just post something. heads up
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Post by Gauss on Jun 2, 2005 2:56:03 GMT -5
13 is a great album
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Post by angelchild on Jun 2, 2005 5:36:05 GMT -5
Parklife is an amazing album, but Damon Albarn grew up in Colchester so by no stretch of the imagination is he a cockney! fact!
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Post by globe on Jun 2, 2005 6:25:20 GMT -5
and you're a fuckin smarty pants vagina. jonathan fuckin ross?? have you read damon albarns fuckin diary? blurs first 3 albums were good music, i personally didnt listen to them cos i'm from newcastle and i aint no cockney lover, you're right those times are over and i openly admit that i liked the first three albums. after the great escape blur tried to reinvent themself, i.e. trying to apply themself to the musicscene, i.e selling out and brutally lost it. graham coxon was the only one with some sense and left the group. fuckin moneycounting damon decided to take it even further and do a fuckin puff daddy impression and you're trying to tell us that it's fuckin good? i didn't read damon's autobiography i read a book on brit pop that was made into the movie live forever. blur were in the for front of the brit pop movement infact they started it with modern life is rubbish. everything at that time was grunge or shoegaze stuff. blur came out with an album in modern life is rubbish that harkened back to the glory days of british music. with influences ranging from the kinks, the jam and xtc. after the great escape blur did anything but sell out. they embraced underground american music like pavement which was graham coxons idea. hence the much more low fi sound on tracks like beetlebum, your so great and essex dogs. also comparing gorillaz to puff daddy is just idiotic. you need to listen to demon days it's a complex listen and almost a concept record about the post 9/11 world. you have been owned What book was that? 'The Last Party'? Well first of all, I really dont know if Live Forever was based on that book. Secondly, the reason Coxon left Blur is beacuse he was fed up of Albarn. He hated the fact that he suddenly started trying to act 'working class'. For example, he suddenly became a football fan and started going to Stamford Bridge, drinking pints of lager and trying to act like a 'lad'. He was brought up in some leafy suburb of Colchester and was trying to fool the world that he was born within hearing distance of the bells of St. Mary Le Bow. As shakermaker00 says, I'm not saying that all Blurs music is shit. Quite clearly it isnt, I'm mearly making the point that Albarn created this persona to try and fit in with a 'scene'. Pretty sad. The whole way he and Steve Sutherland created the Country House / Roll WIth It feud with Oasis is a joke. Didnt you see the interview he did on News At Ten at the height of all that? Hillarious. Imagine if one of the Gallagher brothers decided to make an album and had a gang of cartoon characters front the whole thing. They would be derided in the music press. Anyway, the only reason I replied to you in the first place was becasue you had a go at Kalas saying he didnt like the Gorillaz and he liked Heathen Chemistry. Its called an opinion.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jun 2, 2005 12:38:26 GMT -5
i didn't read damon's autobiography i read a book on brit pop that was made into the movie live forever. blur were in the for front of the brit pop movement infact they started it with modern life is rubbish. everything at that time was grunge or shoegaze stuff. blur came out with an album in modern life is rubbish that harkened back to the glory days of british music. with influences ranging from the kinks, the jam and xtc. after the great escape blur did anything but sell out. they embraced underground american music like pavement which was graham coxons idea. hence the much more low fi sound on tracks like beetlebum, your so great and essex dogs. also comparing gorillaz to puff daddy is just idiotic. you need to listen to demon days it's a complex listen and almost a concept record about the post 9/11 world. you have been owned What book was that? 'The Last Party'? Well first of all, I really dont know if Live Forever was based on that book. Secondly, the reason Coxon left Blur is beacuse he was fed up of Albarn. He hated the fact that he suddenly started trying to act 'working class'. For example, he suddenly became a football fan and started going to Stamford Bridge, drinking pints of lager and trying to act like a 'lad'. He was brought up in some leafy suburb of Colchester and was trying to fool the world that he was born within hearing distance of the bells of St. Mary Le Bow. As shakermaker00 says, I'm not saying that all Blurs music is shit. Quite clearly it isnt, I'm mearly making the point that Albarn created this persona to try and fit in with a 'scene'. Pretty sad. The whole way he and Steve Sutherland created the Country House / Roll WIth It feud with Oasis is a joke. Didnt you see the interview he did on News At Ten at the height of all that? Hillarious. Imagine if one of the Gallagher brothers decided to make an album and had a gang of cartoon characters front the whole thing. They would be derided in the music press. Anyway, the only reason I replied to you in the first place was becasue you had a go at Kalas saying he didnt like the Gorillaz and he liked Heathen Chemistry. Its called an opinion. Secondly, the reason Coxon left Blur is beacuse he was fed up of Albarn. He hated the fact that he suddenly started trying to act 'working class'. For example, he suddenly became a football fan and started going to Stamford Bridge, drinking pints of lager and trying to act like a 'lad'. He did that stuff in 1994 and 1995 during the Brit Pop movement as did Coxon. However starting in 1997 Blur turned their back on British music and their self titled record which has a very American underground sound to it. The reason Graham left is because he lost control of the band musically. Graham was the one who made them change their sound and become heavily influenced by Pavement. During the Think Tank sessions when Damon wanted to take over the band more Graham got fed up and left. I think as a Blur fan and quite a big one I know quite more on this subject than you do. Now on to the Colchester point he moved their when he was 9 so yes he was brought up their but he isn't from there. I moved to Indianapolis when I was 14 does that mean I'm not a New York anymore. Or when a British person moves to the States does that mean they aren't British anymore.
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Post by globe on Jun 2, 2005 17:13:05 GMT -5
What book was that? 'The Last Party'? Well first of all, I really dont know if Live Forever was based on that book. Secondly, the reason Coxon left Blur is beacuse he was fed up of Albarn. He hated the fact that he suddenly started trying to act 'working class'. For example, he suddenly became a football fan and started going to Stamford Bridge, drinking pints of lager and trying to act like a 'lad'. He was brought up in some leafy suburb of Colchester and was trying to fool the world that he was born within hearing distance of the bells of St. Mary Le Bow. As shakermaker00 says, I'm not saying that all Blurs music is shit. Quite clearly it isnt, I'm mearly making the point that Albarn created this persona to try and fit in with a 'scene'. Pretty sad. The whole way he and Steve Sutherland created the Country House / Roll WIth It feud with Oasis is a joke. Didnt you see the interview he did on News At Ten at the height of all that? Hillarious. Imagine if one of the Gallagher brothers decided to make an album and had a gang of cartoon characters front the whole thing. They would be derided in the music press. Anyway, the only reason I replied to you in the first place was becasue you had a go at Kalas saying he didnt like the Gorillaz and he liked Heathen Chemistry. Its called an opinion. Secondly, the reason Coxon left Blur is beacuse he was fed up of Albarn. He hated the fact that he suddenly started trying to act 'working class'. For example, he suddenly became a football fan and started going to Stamford Bridge, drinking pints of lager and trying to act like a 'lad'. He did that stuff in 1994 and 1995 during the Brit Pop movement as did Coxon. However starting in 1997 Blur turned their back on British music and their self titled record which has a very American underground sound to it. The reason Graham left is because he lost control of the band musically. Graham was the one who made them change their sound and become heavily influenced by Pavement. During the Think Tank sessions when Damon wanted to take over the band more Graham got fed up and left. I think as a Blur fan and quite a big one I know quite more on this subject than you do. Now on to the Colchester point he moved their when he was 9 so yes he was brought up their but he isn't from there. I moved to Indianapolis when I was 14 does that mean I'm not a New York anymore. Or when a British person moves to the States does that mean they aren't British anymore. When I first saw Blur in 1991, they were your typical art-student type band. Very middle class and poilte - nothing wrong with that. Saw them again a couple of years later, and suddenly Albarn is singing in a mockney accent and acting and dressing like a 'lad'. He's a chancer, always had been, always will be. Anyway, we could argue about this forever and never agree, so back to my original reason for getting involved in this thread - You had a go at Kalas for no reason, other than he expresses an opinion. Whats that all about?
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Post by iamthewalrus on Jun 2, 2005 18:14:01 GMT -5
I thought this thread was about fucking DBTT album sales...not this utter BS...I think it'll chart around 15 in the US
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Post by ccgdwn on Jun 2, 2005 18:16:18 GMT -5
It's #9 on the CDN iTunes album chart...and Canada is usually 5 or 6 ahead of States at least...so I'm gonna guess 15 to be Conservative.
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Post by AlexTHFC on Jun 2, 2005 18:29:01 GMT -5
By the way I've bought Leisure, Park Life, Great Escape and Blur and personally I thought apart from Leisure they were all shite! They had about 4 good songs (ie the singles) and the rest was total filler and bullshit. They are a singles band (and a good one at that) nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by globe on Jun 2, 2005 19:18:42 GMT -5
I thought this thread was about fucking DBTT album sales...not this utter BS...I think it'll chart around 15 in the US Yeah I know, Im sorry I strayed way of track, but I was provoked. I dont usually rise to the bait, Im way to old for that (unless its daysleeper and politics ;D) but I did this time.
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Post by Jimmy D on Jun 3, 2005 5:22:04 GMT -5
as much as id love for it be go in at number 1, i hav this feeling that its not gonna make it top 10 though.
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Post by iamthewalrus on Jun 3, 2005 15:17:32 GMT -5
Yeah I know, Im sorry I strayed way of track, but I was provoked. I dont usually rise to the bait, Im way to old for that (unless its daysleeper and politics ;D) but I did this time. No worries mate...Blur gets me going too
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