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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2005 11:23:49 GMT -5
city of manchester...encore out comes bonehead and guigsy for 1 last go at columbia and supernova .. boney has said he would love to be onstage 1 more time with them and guigsy has never said a ill word..would that not be a mega expierence
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Post by doggboy10 on May 23, 2005 11:40:48 GMT -5
Although i get where your coming from m8, they were apart of something magical. But for me Oasis are going forward in a big way and shouldn't go back at all. That era is over and i think this new era is gonna be just as exciting. To be honest i prefer Andy and Gem to the original 2 they just seem to be more "Rock Star" material, Guigsy looked like a Bus driver and Bonehead looked like a mechanic and lets be honest although i love em, they couldn't play for shit ;D
Can't wait for the 9th july though should be mental.
Cheers
doggboy
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Post by Dominic on May 23, 2005 11:42:52 GMT -5
would be disrespectful to gem and andy - who lets face it in their own way saved oasis by taking some of the weight of noels shoulders
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2005 11:46:59 GMT -5
doggy, dom ,u both are right ...i just thought it would be cool to bring closure to the old band ,at manchester in there home with gem and andy onstage with them...but i see your point
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Post by Dominic on May 23, 2005 12:02:24 GMT -5
i no where your commin from, id love to see gusipy come back, but gem and andy on guitar for a closer and let him hit them bass strings
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Post by ForceofNature on May 23, 2005 12:06:18 GMT -5
"lets be honest although i love em, they couldn't play for shit"
To be perfectly honest, Bonehead was technically speaking superior to noel as far as the guitar goes, as is Gem.
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Post by Dominic on May 23, 2005 12:07:51 GMT -5
yea but lets be honest noel wrote live forever and wonderwall, bonehead picked his arse and winded laim up with drink
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Post by MSprague01 on May 23, 2005 12:08:51 GMT -5
Yeah Even though he's not as good as Gem, Bonehead was a pretty damn good rhythm player.
But he would've been nowhere without Noel.
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Post by LIVERPUDLIAN on May 23, 2005 12:10:17 GMT -5
Nah, I much prefer Andy and Gem, Bonehead and Guigsy were part of the original "gang" of Oasis, Andy and Gem are in the band.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2005 12:13:34 GMT -5
Nah, I much prefer Andy and Gem, Bonehead and Guigsy were part of the original "gang" of Oasis, Andy and Gem are in the band. i totally agree ..thats my point hometown crowd very nostagilc old time fans the reaction would be unreal! but as for the bands quality its andy and gen ,no argument here
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Post by Gifford on May 23, 2005 12:18:58 GMT -5
i think if it were to ever happen is during some impromptu show in a small pub, a big show with bonehead and guigsy would be disrespectful to gem and andy
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Post by doggboy10 on May 23, 2005 12:20:21 GMT -5
"lets be honest although i love em, they couldn't play for shit" To be perfectly honest, Bonehead was technically speaking superior to noel as far as the guitar goes, as is Gem. I know Gem is superior but didn't noel say he did most of Boneheads parts on WTSMG?, And that neither Guigs or Bonehead tried or could write anything resembling a song. In a way i agree with Kalas, but i also agree that it would be highly disrespectful to Gem and Andy. You wouldn't want Tony to come back would you?. Add the fact that none of them get on anymore and haven't spoke to each other for years it will not happen in the near future i can assure you. Cheers doggboy
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2005 12:24:32 GMT -5
"lets be honest although i love em, they couldn't play for shit" To be perfectly honest, Bonehead was technically speaking superior to noel as far as the guitar goes, as is Gem. Add the fact that none of them get on anymore and haven't spoke to each other for years it will not happen in the near future i can assure you. Cheers doggboy i agree dog....but they have not fell out guigsy wrote a letter on the dm dvd and bonehead g=has never slagged off the boys ..i guess your right it would be disrespectful...but there is no malice between the 4
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Post by StepOut on May 23, 2005 12:33:04 GMT -5
It would definitely be awesome, but I can't see it happening. I don't think Bonehead and Guigs will ever come back. But if Bonehead and Guigs were to come back, Whitey would have to be brought back too.
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Post by doggboy10 on May 23, 2005 12:37:44 GMT -5
I thought Noel and Bonehead had a bad falling out during the Be Here Now sessions, And on the 10 years of noise and confusion liam says he hasn't spoke to either of them since they left. I don't think they hate each other but im sure there's no love lost either, Which is understandable when your couped up together in something as volatile and unpredictable as "Oasis" for that long something is bound to pop off. It's like the stone roses thing, Mani, john and Reni may get on with each other(and with ian in the case of Mani and reni) but Ian and John have said and done to much to each other that i can never see them happening again as they were, To much dirty water flowing through that river. One day when there all old and grey it may be nice to see the original lot do a one off gig for charity but its just to soon, There's so much more new ground to be covered before i want that to happen(The new album is testament to that)
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Post by rockandroll on May 23, 2005 17:28:41 GMT -5
I like Guigsy, He look like a very nice guy....but He didn't contribute that much to the band...I can barely hear any bass lines in the first 3 albums...
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Post by Dominic on May 23, 2005 17:32:14 GMT -5
the sign of a great bassist thou is it not
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Post by soulcrew on May 23, 2005 17:36:56 GMT -5
doggy, dom ,u both are right ...i just thought it would be cool to bring closure to the old band ,at manchester in there home with gem and andy onstage with them...but i see your point i agree in theory if we were talking pure fantasy altough it probably might not be so straight forward in practice
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Post by epiphone335 on May 23, 2005 23:48:11 GMT -5
Bonehead and Guigsy are SHIT compare to Gem and Andy. The music now is greater than ever. Amazing musician.
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Post by MSprague01 on May 24, 2005 0:02:05 GMT -5
And on the 10 years of noise and confusion liam says he hasn't spoke to either of them since they left. doggboy On the Definitely Maybe dvd or on something else recently, I remember Noel said that Liam has spoken to both of them and that they still get on well (no hard feelings at all) but that neither of them has spoken to him at all since they left, and he has no idea why they have spoken to Liam and not him. I also remember that someone asked him the question about playing with Bonehead and Guigsy again in an interview at one point, and he said that once they were out of Oasis that that was the end of it. He said that it had nothing to do with hard feelings or anything like that, but just that it wouldn't be respectful to the current band members. With that being said though, I do agree with Kalas. It would be insane if they both came on and did just one song at the Manchester gig. Everybody would go nuts.
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Post by LDD- Angelic Child on May 24, 2005 10:57:02 GMT -5
Guigsy was one of my favourite members of Oasis before he left but he would never be able to do songs like My Generation, it's just too hard on bass (the solo's etc.)
Pretty much all Bonehead did was barrechords and Guigs just followed those on bass
Gem and Andy are far better musicians and the band has developed over time
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on May 24, 2005 11:59:25 GMT -5
bonehead and guigsy did all of the arrangements for DM, noel said so that he didnt know much about chords and changes. After DM I think Noel did a lot more other than lyrics and melody after he learned more about how to arrange songs from bonehead mostly. The reason why many of the arly songs were arranged in beatle esque patterns were that they were easy to pick off a recording and use. I dont know if I'm making any sense cause this is just what I gather from interviews, musical evidence...etc. Bonehead and guigsy were necessary in the beginning then, but starting with the MG sessions they influenced the music far less as they was off drinking with the laim and alan and they left noel in the studio.
Albeit, noel did write and play almost all of BHN and SOTSOG. So HC was really the first effort by a full band since really DM kinda. That makes oasis a really different band and for bonehead and guigsy to come back, i just don't think it would be right. They are all top guys, and I bet they noel and liam for the most part have no real ill will towards the two. Guigsy's off smoking pot and reading books and boneheads got a new band and probably hasn't gotten off the bender he was on during the making of SOTSOG. Alan is the exeception for past members. I think noel really hates him and I think he somehow betrayed his close friendship with liam for whatever he did that he was unanimously booted from the band.
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Post by lr729 on May 24, 2005 12:05:07 GMT -5
Gem and Andy really fuckin' rock, the old line up reminds me of a modern day Cheap Trick (minus the goofy hats)!!!!!!!!!!!
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