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Post by Noel's Barmy Army on May 17, 2005 18:55:30 GMT -5
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Post by lionsden® on May 17, 2005 19:44:47 GMT -5
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Post by beatlem650 on May 17, 2005 21:13:30 GMT -5
Everytime oasis has a new record people always try to say what band influence a certain song, ive never seen that happen as much with any other band, it pisses me off that all of these "critics" think they knowit all.
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Post by billlumbergh on May 18, 2005 3:26:49 GMT -5
Filter Magazine (U.S.) -- 88 percent rating. Very good score.
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Post by castlecraver on May 18, 2005 8:59:59 GMT -5
"long live the kings" ... i love it
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Post by liamscoat on May 18, 2005 14:01:21 GMT -5
Rolling Stone *** 1/2 Not a comeback, but the Gallaghers stop sinking Watching Oasis' precipitous decline from Brit-pop superstardom has sort of been like watching the Yankees blow it last October: You knew they had it coming, but it was still kind of sad to see. DBTT, their seventh album, isn't the comeback fans have long been praying for, but it's the first Oasis album in years that doesn't sound like pale self-imitation. The bigger presence of guitarist Gem Archer as well as an increased emphasis on texture - including plenty of subdued psych-rock atmosphere - rescue confidently rockin' winners such as TMOS from the kind of dunderheaded grand gestures Oasis had gotten increasingly worse at writing, and tracks like TIOBI channel laid-back Sixties-pop cool. So: Now that they've fought off complacency and cocaine, can we get that Behind The Music episode? Key Track: TMOS written by: Christian Hoard Well not quite the 5 stars!! but could have been worse and the fact that each critic is also liking different songs is also a sign of strength in depth!!  |
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Post by rubbersoulll on May 18, 2005 16:24:52 GMT -5
not a comeback?? WTF would be a comeback???
of course i´m not expecting 5 stars... but i was sure they´d gave them 4, and something more intelligent to coment than say TMOS is the best song of the album and TIOBI a cool pop... turn up the sun? let there be love? GGTIA??? where are their opnions about them? rolling stone gave BY FAR the most stupid review of the "important" magazines...
review of the review: 2** 1/2
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Post by rubbersoulll on May 18, 2005 16:36:13 GMT -5
they gave 4 to BHN... is this album worse than BHN???
i´m so fucking angry, because RS sells a lot, and it´s bad for the band that this stupid magazine makes a review saying the new album is "ok, but you should buy new 50 cent album!! it´s awesome!!!" or something else...
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Post by webm@ster on May 18, 2005 16:44:18 GMT -5
interesting RS choice for key track : TMOS
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Post by Noel's Barmy Army on May 18, 2005 17:11:49 GMT -5
arent RS just a bunch of kiddy fiddling rent boys?
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Post by iamthewalrus on May 18, 2005 17:16:18 GMT -5
arent RS just a bunch of kiddy fiddling rent boys? HAHAHAHAAHAHAH ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by start at the end on May 18, 2005 17:34:27 GMT -5
without a singular doubt in my mind, RS is the perrenial king of short-sighted, mind-blowingly ignorant critiques. Couple that with a horrifically biased left-wing agenda , and you have the two perfect ingredients for the worst music mag in the industrialized world. Oasis could release a SGT> PPPRS and the fucks would sneeze. its just slightly painful cus the c*nts have alot of clout with the mindless drones running around this musically barren wasteland of a country....unfortunate, but very true. it's ok, who needs the pricks anyway?
BTW if , coldplay, blur or any other uk darling dropped this identical record you would see nothing less than 4 ...probably 4 1/2 stars, don't doubt it for a second.
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Post by Noel's Barmy Army on May 18, 2005 17:42:10 GMT -5
i agree with start at the end completely. like the reviewer said in the ultimate-guitar review of the album, he wouldnt give DBTT 5 stars because it wasnt as good as DM or (WTS)MG.
With the exception of Grace, The Bends, OK Computer and perhaps Parachutes, has there actually been an album released since 1994 which deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as DM or MG?
On that logic, EVERY album should be rated with DM and MG in mind.
Of course that's a silly thing to suggest. Its an even fucking stupider thing to admit to actually doing.
vaginas.
RS isnt even a rock mag anymore. when u put britney, eminem and 50 cent on the front cover and still pretend you are a rock mag, then you must think your readers are even stupider and uglier dickwads than you are.
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Post by lionsden® on May 18, 2005 18:29:53 GMT -5
Green Day's new album only got 3 starts in RS and look how much they hype them up  |
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Post by thebluesgnr on May 18, 2005 19:35:42 GMT -5
interesting RS choice for key track : TMOS Not that I agree with that choice, but I think most Oasis fans here have a lower rating of ABWR and TMOS than the general public. The reason is that most people here hate everything about Glastonbury 2004. I absolutely love these two songs... the live intro to TMOS (2005 version  ) is amazing. ABWR is in my top 3 for the album. |
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Post by castlecraver on May 18, 2005 20:01:57 GMT -5
interesting RS choice for key track : TMOS Not that I agree with that choice, but I think most Oasis fans here have a lower rating of ABWR and TMOS than the general public. The reason is that most people here hate everything about Glastonbury 2004. I absolutely love these two songs... the live intro to TMOS (2005 version ) is amazing. ABWR is in my top 3 for the album. I agree.... there doesnt seem to be a single song on the album that hasn't been picked as a good track by someone but still, my two cents: DBTT deserved 4 stars. I'd like to (for once) see an Oasis review that doesnt just conjure up the past and make comparisons that people so "with it" in the music scene should know better than to try to make. furthermore, i dont understand this comeback business...... oasis never went anywhere and they gave HC good reviews..... they mention nothing about the bands evolution or how the songwriting was delegated. they really overlooked some of the best parts of the album and they still gave it a 3.5...... bastards. |
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Post by billlumbergh on May 19, 2005 1:03:26 GMT -5
3.5 stars. Overall, a pretty good rating--about what I'd expect from Rollingstone. They haven't ever been big Oasis fans. I agree with you though; why does every damn Oasis review have to reference other albums and past triumphs?--it gets annoying.
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Post by snowman on May 19, 2005 9:23:59 GMT -5
the rolling stone is not a magazine exclusive to music. though they started out as that way, they are more journalistic in their endeavors than most magazines that cater to the music crowd. it's less centralized toward music than it is pop culture in general. the greatest issue that i've ever come across was the tribute to hunter s. thompson. most of that issue was filled with stories written by others about him. a very small part of the mag was dedicated to their usual content on music, dvd, movies, and other crap.
and it's not the magazine's opinion -- it's the individual's opinion to whom the cd review was assigned. as a journalist, i'm given an assignment. when i turn in a review that my editor doesn't agree with, she just gives me a "really?" and shrugs it off and my article gets published. that's how it works. if the editor doesn't like it and tosses it out and inserts her own review, that would be unethical.
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Post by snowman on May 19, 2005 9:30:10 GMT -5
as for the comparisons to the last album and past albums, people need a reference point to which they can access an article and the contents of the music. you can't just say "this is a good song" without the why and what makes it a good song. to write a music review w/o referencing other music acts and past acts would make for a very short article. you can't analyze every song one by one. there are space constraints. feature articles get the most space, reviews get the least space. it's how it works.
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Post by Noel's Barmy Army on May 19, 2005 9:48:41 GMT -5
as for the comparisons to the last album and past albums, people need a reference point to which they can access an article and the contents of the music. you can't just say "this is a good song" without the why and what makes it a good song. to write a music review w/o referencing other music acts and past acts would make for a very short article. you can't analyze every song one by one. there are space constraints. feature articles get the most space, reviews get the least space. it's how it works. really?? no way.... *jaw falls open as he slaps his face in sarcastic surprise* in regards to comparing to one's back catalogue, an album must be judged by the standard of day not by a standard of what they have done before. if so then it must be a standard applied universally to every release by every artist. and if that was the case, how many bands nowadays would get an album critically acclaimed if it was compared to sgt peppers, revolver, exile on main st, DM, grace, stone roses, achtung baby etc etc? the answer is likely to be none. it is a unrealistic, false and misleading comparison to make. |
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Post by webm@ster on May 19, 2005 10:13:19 GMT -5
www.amusicalpriority.co.uk/Review_Oasis_Lyla.htmOasis Lyla Released 16 May 2005 Three years without Oasis is far too long. The wait is over Oasis are back to take over the charts with Lyla a song that highlights everything that we have missed about Oasis. Without Oasis in the charts there is a huge hole in the music world that cannot be filled by anyone else. Oasis have been the most important British band since The Beatles. They burst on the scene in 1994 and changed so many lives for the better. Now with British music stronger than it has been in the last ten years the time is perfect for Oasis to return and show the world who is the best. Noel claims the new material to be the best thing they have done since Definitely Maybe, a statement which I’m sure he has made about every album since Definitely Maybe. As soon as Lyla kicks off you can’t help but believe everything Noel says, Lyla really is something special. Lyla sticks to the formula that made Oasis so good in the first place, take your influences and turn them into your own song. Lyla is a cross between The Kinks, The Rolling Stones, The Who and The Soundtrack Of Our Lives. Already it is an anthem. This will have you punching your fists in the air in triumph; it will make you want to walk around town with the Liam swagger. It will make you fall in love with music; it will make kids want to pick up a guitar and start a band. Lyla is full of guitars, drums and Liam’s vocals, which are second to none. Liam Gallagher is the greatest living frontman; he was born to be in a band. As soon as the vocals kick in on Lyla you realise how much you have missed him. There is no one else out there who has the same effect on you as Liam does. The Lyrics are typical Noel, they don’t always make sense, “If you can't hear me call, Then I can't say LYLA, Heaven help you catch me if I fall”. Lyla apparent is the second cousin of Sally from Don’t Look Back In Anger who was Sally Cinnamon (Stone Roses). Lyla will become a live favorite during the summer stadium tour which sold out in hours Oasis may have done their bit for music, they may no longer need to carry on making music. Oasis will sell millions of records and sell out tours on their name along. The fact that we’ve got a new single and album Don’t Believe The Truth coming out means people will be queuing outside record shops to be the amongst the first to get their hands on the new material, how many bands out there really have that effect on people. The fact that Oasis have got a new record coming out is reason for celebration alone, the fact that it is a full on instant rock n roll classic is an added bonus. 5/5...ST
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Post by themanwithnoname on May 19, 2005 11:00:46 GMT -5
Did the Rolling Stone reviewer actually listen to the whole album??
Meaning Of Soul is pretty good but it's a bit odd to single that one out when there are so many other, better songs on there.
Still, as someone said, it's good that people are having different favourites because it shows that there is strength in depth on DBTT.
It's not like Heathen Chemistry where it was obvious which were the best songs and which ones would be released as singles.
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Post by iamthewalrus on May 19, 2005 12:33:10 GMT -5
www.allmusic.com just gave it a 4/5 rating which is quite exceptional for that site as they are really guarded about giving albums more than that...for instance DM only acheived a 5/5 after 10 or so years and MG is 4.5/5...BHN is 4 and HC and SOTSOG are both 3. A write up isn't up yet so the score might change but as it stands now it's a 4/5
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Post by wazza_10 on May 19, 2005 13:22:40 GMT -5
Good results |
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Post by Noel's Barmy Army on May 19, 2005 15:08:42 GMT -5
Q Magazine Review
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) is amazing. ABWR is in my top 3 for the album.
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