coldplay? are you serious? ?? the fuckin dirt i wipe my shit ridden shoes in are better. They aren;t rock so who cares how beautiful their music is, I don;t want beauty, I want three chords and a fuck you im a rockstar. I want rock n roll

To Icarus:

So are you saying that if any style of music is "promoted properly" it would be successful in America??

Somehow I don't think so. Would Mexican Polka music or Peruvian panpipe music be successful in the States if marketed properly. Afcourse not!!! and why? - Because it's just too foreign. Oasis have a distinctive "British sound" that most (not all) Americans just don't get.

I agree that if something is continously played on radio , MTV and given wide exposure that sooner or later someone's going to buy it or even like it but you can't keep that going for too long without real talent & effort backing it up.

If you don't think there's a distinctive British sound as compared to an "American" sound then u should have your ears checked. This sound is not just in the musical style , it's also in the accent , in the culture , in the way of thinking , in their history etc... The Jam were a top British band of the late 70's & early 80's , actually they were the most successful band in Britain at that time , notching up hit after hit. Their sound & Paul Wellers vocal delivery was distinctively British and even though the songs were great they never had a hit in The States because they were always quoted as "sounding too British"

This goes for dozens of British bands that just like Oasis had great material/songs but never had mainstream success Stateside: The Smiths , The Verve , The Sex Pistols , The Damned , The Specials , Supergrass , Pulp , New Order , Joy Division , The Doves , etc.. etc.. But yet an American sounding British band like The Darkness had more success than most of the other bands I mentioned put together.

The ppl here who go on about Rap wouldn't have a clue what they're talking about. Rap is something that's been around since 1977. A musical genre that lasts that long can't be all bad. Sure most of it sucks. They don't play instruments , sing or write "proper" songs in the strictest sense & generally speaking it's a fairly low grade entertainment (see "Up In Smoke" for instance). Still , I've yet to meet someone who hasn't been impressed by "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five

that's taking it too far - no, Mexican Polka wouldn't be big here if promoted properly, but you still have to admit that Oasis were huge here and would still be if they were promoted properly. They had already made it big on their own and people ate it up. So what happened? There was NO promotion for Be Here Now - none whatsoever. It accounted for 2/3 of all music sold in Britan during it's first week out. It should have been a #1 album here just due to anticipation. But I didn't see ONE poster on any record store about it, didn't even hear much news. The video for DYKWIM? premiered at MIDNIGHT on MTV on a weeknight. MIDNIGHT! THat video was incredible, why not premiere it during primtetime? Just a few months earlier MTV finally decided to air Unplugged after months of holding off because Liam didn't sing, and all of a sudden Oasis isn't good enough for a prime time video premiere? What's with that? In this particular case, for this band, promotion would do wonders - they're not a mexican polka band, they're Oasis, and they've been around for over 10 years selling millions of records, so there's simply no excuse for the lack of promotion going on. And I stand by that because the promotion for THIS album, as it's their last with Sony, has been much better, because the entertainment conglomerate ClearChannel controls what we hear over the radio and wants to make Sony happy.

You're right in that a lot of bands sound too British, and plenty of morons here in the states don't like that, but there are still plenty of college kids who don't care if a band sounds British, they only care if the music is good. I remember, I was one of htem - no one I hung out with in college cared about what was on the charts, they only cared about the bands they liked and listened to...and I was lucky to have lots of friends who liked Oasis.

I don't claim to be an expert of hip hop or know much about its history. All I know is that on one hand 50 Cent and other rappers like him a shit....But on the other hand "Fear of a Black Planet", "It Takes A Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back" and "Muse Sick-n-Hour Mess Age" by Public Enemy are three of the best and most exciting albums I've ever heard in ANY form of music.

Hip hop is like every form of music, there is some good and some bad and its all down to personal taste. So shut the fuck up!

thanks AlexTHFC!

for politics. lyrics are lyrics music is music. if both are good then u have a good song. politics in music are irrellevant if wats being produced is good.

and rap is just bad, there is no music. if u like it then u have poor taste, end of story. and as for you fucktards bashing coldplay because its not the hardest stuff out there than your equally stupid. the bring the same musical sensibilities as oasis, catchy meledies, powerful chorus's. just the way its delivered is different.