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Post by novascotialad on May 1, 2005 5:11:05 GMT -5
I know I'm gonna get bashed for this one, but am I the only one that's a bit disappointed with the new songs and clips? All I read on here is how great and fantastic and refreshing it all is. One minute everyone wants a new DM, then everyone's praising this new sound... Well I for one have heard this "new" sound before and it was called SOTSOG...
Not that SOTSOG was a bad album, just not what you want an Oasis album to sound like. Let's face it, they don't exactly squirt out albums like eggs outta a chickens arse.
I've heard a few full songs and a few 1min clips....
Turn Up the Sun - pretty good, better than Hindu? nope
Mucky Fingers - different, in a good way, better than
than LBL? nope
Lyla - rubbish
Guess God Thinks I'm Abel - didn't hear much of this one
sounded pretty good.
Part of the Queue - won't get a second listen
Love's Like a Bomb - how did this make the album?
The Importance of Being Idle - ain't heard it.
Keep the Dream Alive - would have been a good b side
The Meaning of Soul - actually enjoy this one
A Bell Will Ring - just about the only moment of clarity
on the whole album
Let There Be Love - pure quality
SO BEFORE, you all bitch at me, hey let's face it... track for track, DBTT is no better than HC. And HC gets slagged off by you lot worse than BHN or SOTSOG. Have it. ;D
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Post by mrtokyo on May 1, 2005 5:13:46 GMT -5
imo it pisses on hc, and i actually like most of hc.
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Post by antsan80 on May 1, 2005 5:38:23 GMT -5
Turn Up the Sun - pretty good, better than Hindu? nope, MUCH BETTER.
Mucky Fingers - different, in a good way, better than
than LBL? nope, MUCH BETTER. LBL was bad produced, and it was the same boring shit that Noel had written 200 times since SOTSOG (WDIAGW, SMC, Carry Us All, Just Getting Older, One Way Road, Cigarettes In Hell...). To me it was trhe same shit.
Lyla - The worst song in the album, but still good. Better than Roll With It or Hey Now, for example.
Guess God Thinks I'm Abel - didn't hear much of this one
sounded pretty good.
Part of the Queue - Pure quality. Sounds absolutely great. It is everything that Who Feels Love, Fade In Out and even The Gil In The Dirty Shirt should have been.
Love's Like a Bomb - how did this make the album? Well, because its Songbird 2.0. Catchy as fuck after a few listens. Its not the next Champagne Supernova, but it is still much better than Shes Electric, for example.
The Importance of Being Idle - Pure class.
Keep the Dream Alive - would have been a good b side (agreed)
The Meaning of Soul - actually enjoy this one
A Bell Will Ring - just about the only moment of clarity
on the whole album
Let There Be Love - pure quality
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Post by monkey man on May 1, 2005 5:41:37 GMT -5
this puts HC in the shade. HC was a poor album, this one sounds wicked.
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Post by thebluesgnr on May 1, 2005 5:43:00 GMT -5
Did the album leak already? I don't think so.
Please wait until you properly listen to it before making a judgment.
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Post by belfastdon on May 1, 2005 5:55:58 GMT -5
i'm pretty disapointed in what i've heard so far,altough i need to hear the full songs instead of the 1-2 minutes jointed clips.
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Post by jackNdanny on May 1, 2005 6:46:04 GMT -5
dunno what you've been listening to mate, its sounds quality. By the way, HC blows goats.
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2005 6:49:44 GMT -5
I think the album is what should have been Be Here Now.  |
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Post by DixonHill on May 1, 2005 6:56:59 GMT -5
I think the album is what should have been Be Here Now. good point, very good point. |
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Post by DixonHill on May 1, 2005 7:02:25 GMT -5
I know I'm gonna get bashed for this one, but am I the only one that's a bit disappointed with the new songs and clips? All I read on here is how great and fantastic and refreshing it all is. One minute everyone wants a new DM, then everyone's praising this new sound... Well I for one have heard this "new" sound before and it was called SOTSOG... Not that SOTSOG was a bad album, just not what you want an Oasis album to sound like. Let's face it, they don't exactly squirt out albums like eggs outta a chickens arse. I've heard a few full songs and a few 1min clips.... Turn Up the Sun - pretty good, better than Hindu? nope Mucky Fingers - different, in a good way, better than than LBL? nope Lyla - rubbish Guess God Thinks I'm Abel - didn't hear much of this one sounded pretty good. Part of the Queue - won't get a second listen Love's Like a Bomb - how did this make the album? The Importance of Being Idle - ain't heard it. Keep the Dream Alive - would have been a good b side The Meaning of Soul - actually enjoy this one A Bell Will Ring - just about the only moment of clarity on the whole album Let There Be Love - pure quality SO BEFORE, you all bitch at me, hey let's face it... track for track, DBTT is no better than HC. And HC gets slagged off by you lot worse than BHN or SOTSOG. Have it. ;D part of the queue sounds great, as does the importance of being idle. love like a bomb sounds very good. a bell will ring, i don't like that one and i'm not having guess god thinks i'm able. keep the dream alive i love, mucky fingers, i don't know. meaning of soul rocks and let there be love, not a fan. |
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Post by MSprague01 on May 1, 2005 9:58:02 GMT -5
Everybody's entitled to their opinion, but I think that every single song on this album is good from the clips and leaked songs that I've heard. I think that Mucky Fingers might be the worst song on the album, but I'm even starting to like that one quite a bit after several listens.
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Post by novascotialad on May 1, 2005 11:02:04 GMT -5
I have only been a member since about June 2004, and i'll tell ya what...
I would love, absolutely love, to see what was being said about HC after a few leaked tracks,
I bet most of yas was all up its ass and stuff. Now, the big slag.
It'll be same for this album in time.
Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the biggest fans you'll ever meet. That's why I expect a lot. I've seen em live 3 times and the 4th will be this June... But i gotta say I've sampled a few clips and full tracks and they haven't even hooked me enough to find em out and download em... i'd rather listen to supersonic 20 times in a row
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Post by pmg07 on May 1, 2005 13:58:38 GMT -5
well i rated heathen chemistry and still do but what ive heard of this album is better in a different way. glad to see people are like meaning of soul now cuz all i ever see on here is people saying its a shit song. And another thing-why do alot of the regulars love BHN so much? some good songs yes but play the album now and its just so long, by the you get to magic pie half the days gone. DYKWIM single aside BHN-era b sides were pure shit as well.
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Post by MSprague01 on May 1, 2005 14:09:36 GMT -5
Meaning of Soul rocks
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Post by thebluesgnr on May 1, 2005 17:19:07 GMT -5
I have only been a member since about June 2004, and i'll tell ya what... I would love, absolutely love, to see what was being said about HC after a few leaked tracks, I bet most of yas was all up its ass and stuff. Now, the big slag. It'll be same for this album in time. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the biggest fans you'll ever meet. That's why I expect a lot. I've seen em live 3 times and the 4th will be this June... But i gotta say I've sampled a few clips and full tracks and they haven't even hooked me enough to find em out and download em... i'd rather listen to supersonic 20 times in a row What's the problem with HC? It had great songs when it was released and they're still there, in my copy at least. ;D Stop Crying Your Heart Out, Born on a Different Cloud, Songbird, The Hindu Times, Little by Little... those are some of my favorite Oasis songs ever. It has 3 songs that I don't rate very high (She's Love, All in the Mind, Better Man) but I never skip them when I listen to the album. It's the best Oasis album since DM in my opinion. Also, if you listen to a song 20 times in a row then you sir have a problem, I don't care how fucking good it is.  Sometimes I feel people will never like Oasis like they did back then no matter what they do. But they can still make a fucking great rock album. |
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Post by Asif on May 1, 2005 17:31:05 GMT -5
HC is probably my least fav Oasis album, mainly cuz it lacks consistancy; it just seems like a collection of tracks (though, many seem to be tilting towards the concept of redemption).
When I listen to the tracks from this new album (or the clips i should say), I like what I'm hearing, because there's a real depth to the song writing. And oddly enough, it gives me a bit more perspective on HC.
Oasis, despite what they or many people think or say, is a progressive band; with every album they venture forward into a new territory. For example, songs like Wonderwall or Cast No Shadow would seem out of place in Definitely Maybe. And songs from Be Here Now (eg My Big Mouth, All Around the World) were too 'big' to fit into an album like Morning Glory. And clearly, SOTSOG was an all new terrain for the band in terms of concept and progression (just a question, does anyone else get the whole 'circle' thing in that album, or do i read too much into it?).
The new album follows the progression thing that they're doing, it's what any good songwriter has to do; there's a lot of acoustic numbers, its a lot more mellow, the content looks at some big ideas (like a world coming undone at the seams) and keeps it real at the same time (talkin bout lining up for a pint of milk). And from my vantage point, HC was kinda the middle ground for it; you can see some hints of the blues in it, and the big ideas, and the unscathed acoustic simplicity.
I dunno, if any of that made any sense at all, then thats great, if not, fuck it, just spreading my opinion is all.
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Post by dvsone on May 1, 2005 18:17:26 GMT -5
well i rated heathen chemistry and still do but what ive heard of this album is better in a different way. glad to see people are like meaning of soul now cuz all i ever see on here is people saying its a shit song. And another thing-why do alot of the regulars love BHN so much? some good songs yes but play the album now and its just so long, by the you get to magic pie half the days gone. DYKWIM single aside BHN-era b sides were pure shit as well. i never listen to BHN to me its just awful bloated some of the worst lyrics ever "you see me ive got my magic pie" *shudders* i like to pretend it was never rlsd. But this album sounds great mature full of various influences unashamedly so. I think Liam has come of age as a talent in his own right. And better yet theyre all a bunch of lads focused now on making great music instead of taking shed loads of chemicals so far this album seems like its gonna be a good milestone for them |
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Post by Noel's Barmy Army on May 1, 2005 18:20:07 GMT -5
HC is probably my least fav Oasis album, mainly cuz it lacks consistancy; it just seems like a collection of tracks (though, many seem to be tilting towards the concept of redemption). When I listen to the tracks from this new album (or the clips i should say), I like what I'm hearing, because there's a real depth to the song writing. And oddly enough, it gives me a bit more perspective on HC. Oasis, despite what they or many people think or say, is a progressive band; with every album they venture forward into a new territory. For example, songs like Wonderwall or Cast No Shadow would seem out of place in Definitely Maybe. And songs from Be Here Now (eg My Big Mouth, All Around the World) were too 'big' to fit into an album like Morning Glory. And clearly, SOTSOG was an all new terrain for the band in terms of concept and progression (just a question, does anyone else get the whole 'circle' thing in that album, or do i read too much into it?). The new album follows the progression thing that they're doing, it's what any good songwriter has to do; there's a lot of acoustic numbers, its a lot more mellow, the content looks at some big ideas (like a world coming undone at the seams) and keeps it real at the same time (talkin bout lining up for a pint of milk). And from my vantage point, HC was kinda the middle ground for it; you can see some hints of the blues in it, and the big ideas, and the unscathed acoustic simplicity. I dunno, if any of that made any sense at all, then thats great, if not, fuck it, just spreading my opinion is all. eloquently put. good post. |
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Post by StepOut on May 1, 2005 18:41:01 GMT -5
HC is probably my least fav Oasis album, mainly cuz it lacks consistancy; it just seems like a collection of tracks (though, many seem to be tilting towards the concept of redemption). When I listen to the tracks from this new album (or the clips i should say), I like what I'm hearing, because there's a real depth to the song writing. And oddly enough, it gives me a bit more perspective on HC. Oasis, despite what they or many people think or say, is a progressive band; with every album they venture forward into a new territory. For example, songs like Wonderwall or Cast No Shadow would seem out of place in Definitely Maybe. And songs from Be Here Now (eg My Big Mouth, All Around the World) were too 'big' to fit into an album like Morning Glory. And clearly, SOTSOG was an all new terrain for the band in terms of concept and progression (just a question, does anyone else get the whole 'circle' thing in that album, or do i read too much into it?). The new album follows the progression thing that they're doing, it's what any good songwriter has to do; there's a lot of acoustic numbers, its a lot more mellow, the content looks at some big ideas (like a world coming undone at the seams) and keeps it real at the same time (talkin bout lining up for a pint of milk). And from my vantage point, HC was kinda the middle ground for it; you can see some hints of the blues in it, and the big ideas, and the unscathed acoustic simplicity. I dunno, if any of that made any sense at all, then thats great, if not, fuck it, just spreading my opinion is all. Good post Asif. I think HC was the buffer album. Essentially SOTSOG was just Noel, Liam, and Alan in the studio. HC was the new lineup finally in the studio. I think the band really didn't know their full potential. I think DBTT will be their best work since Morning Glory. |
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on May 1, 2005 18:41:37 GMT -5
eloquently put. good post. I agree - a very insightful post indeed - well done!! So to follow your observations, where will this current path they're on lead them... |
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Post by thebluesgnr on May 1, 2005 18:47:01 GMT -5
i never listen to BHN to me its just awful bloated some of the worst lyrics ever "you see me ive got my magic pie" *shudders* i like to pretend it was never rlsd. You shouldn't take it literally.  Good lyric in my opinion, great song. |
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Post by StepOut on May 1, 2005 18:53:07 GMT -5
i never listen to BHN to me its just awful bloated some of the worst lyrics ever "you see me ive got my magic pie" *shudders* i like to pretend it was never rlsd. But this album sounds great mature full of various influences unashamedly so. I think Liam has come of age as a talent in his own right. And better yet theyre all a bunch of lads focused now on making great music instead of taking shed loads of chemicals so far this album seems like its gonna be a good milestone for them BHN is a very bloated album and the tracks are way too long. I think the band essentially crumbled under the weight of the expectations. People gave good reviews because it was Oasis, but looking back now, there are really only a couple of tracks that stand out. |
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Post by henrod89 on May 1, 2005 23:02:12 GMT -5
^^^^ I agree man. HC is pretty damn good and gets slagged off for God knows what reason. If SCYHO and LBL would have been released in the US , I think people would have liked them here again and I think it would have set them up nicely for this album. This new album sounds like it will be better than HC and that is GREAT news. and yes, BHN was waaaaay toooo long. If the songs were shorter it would have been alot better. But there's my two cents for ya'll.
- cheers !
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