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Post by lionsden® on Apr 30, 2005 22:49:59 GMT -5
If they give this album only 3 stars out of 5 someone is gonna have a call from me. I can understand why the last 2 albums have had only 3, but this album is very special IMO.
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Post by StepOut on Apr 30, 2005 23:17:31 GMT -5
I bet they'll give the album 3 stars.....it's Rolling Stone. Now, if it was a new Eminem album, it would get 5 stars.
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Post by lionsden® on Apr 30, 2005 23:41:17 GMT -5
I bet they'll give the album 3 stars.....it's Rolling Stone. Now, if it was a new Eminem album, it would get 5 stars. good point - i'm going to the bar now - cheers  |
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Post by StepOut on May 1, 2005 0:46:32 GMT -5
nice one Lions  |
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Post by sonicidler on May 1, 2005 3:00:11 GMT -5
Actually RS I think is positioning themself for a hop on the bandwagon. After years of pointless antipathy- culminating in a bizarre display of a personal vendetta when the magazine hired a cartoonist to draw pictures of the Liam Munich bar brawl, gleefully titled "Oasis ass kicking." Since then Oasis they shifted their position about 2 years ago- they've done a total 180. Why?
Mainly this point I think- they had greatest album polls and surprising to them Oasis had DM and MG both the in top 50 albums of all time. This made the editors reconsider the damage that had been done to their credibility by slighting the best band of the 90s. From then on when Oasis is mentioned it is in a postive light. About six months ago they put MG in the RS hall of fame records, giving it the full 5 stars, and 5 stars for DM. The Masterplan was given 4 stars, correcting the whiny, disgraceful 2.5 star review it was originally given. Trust me RS likes nothing more than to hop on the closest bandwagon, and thus far the bandwagon is the DBTT is top shelf. I will put up a thread about the most anti- Oasis music press in the US in a couple of days. And believe me if you work for Spin or the Village Voice you are gonna wish you had taken a journalism position on the police blotter.
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Post by meaningofsoul on May 1, 2005 3:21:34 GMT -5
Agreed. It's really ridiculous the way they write reviews. The after-the-fact 5 stars for MG and DM...Stupid. Did you see the last feature article about 'IMMORTALS'...All the greats were there, and then EMINEM?! FOOOOOKING RUBBISh. It disgusts me. And then I think...What will they think about DBTT. They will probably give it a good review based off the other presses. Or they may slag it off as 'unoriginal' (While the new Backstreet Boys will be a "RETURN TO FORM" or some dumb shit).
Either way, I shouldn't care...but I spose I do because they are such a huge part of the US music media...GRAAHHH!
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Post by SlideAway on May 1, 2005 4:48:42 GMT -5
Actually RS I think is positioning themself for a hop on the bandwagon. After years of pointless antipathy- culminating in a bizarre display of a personal vendetta when the magazine hired a cartoonist to draw pictures of the Liam Munich bar brawl, gleefully titled "Oasis ass kicking." Since then Oasis they shifted their position about 2 years ago- they've done a total 180. Why? Mainly this point I think- they had greatest album polls and surprising to them Oasis had DM and MG both the in top 50 albums of all time. This made the editors reconsider the damage that had been done to their credibility by slighting the best band of the 90s. From then on when Oasis is mentioned it is in a postive light. About six months ago they put MG in the RS hall of fame records, giving it the full 5 stars, and 5 stars for DM. The Masterplan was given 4 stars, correcting the whiny, disgraceful 2.5 star review it was originally given. Trust me RS likes nothing more than to hop on the closest bandwagon, and thus far the bandwagon is the DBTT is top shelf. I will put up a thread about the most anti- Oasis music press in the US in a couple of days. And believe me if you work for Spin or the Village Voice you are gonna wish you had taken a journalism position on the police blotter. I guess the top albums list was different in different countries. In the US, (WTS)MG? was somewhere in the 200s or 300s and Definitely Maybe wasn't included. But they're VERY bandwagon-y. Total trendwhores. If the overall response to the new album is good, the review will be good. |
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Post by gastritispanic on May 1, 2005 7:57:25 GMT -5
Actually RS I think is positioning themself for a hop on the bandwagon. After years of pointless antipathy- culminating in a bizarre display of a personal vendetta when the magazine hired a cartoonist to draw pictures of the Liam Munich bar brawl, gleefully titled "Oasis ass kicking." Since then Oasis they shifted their position about 2 years ago- they've done a total 180. Why? Mainly this point I think- they had greatest album polls and surprising to them Oasis had DM and MG both the in top 50 albums of all time. This made the editors reconsider the damage that had been done to their credibility by slighting the best band of the 90s. From then on when Oasis is mentioned it is in a postive light. About six months ago they put MG in the RS hall of fame records, giving it the full 5 stars, and 5 stars for DM. The Masterplan was given 4 stars, correcting the whiny, disgraceful 2.5 star review it was originally given. Trust me RS likes nothing more than to hop on the closest bandwagon, and thus far the bandwagon is the DBTT is top shelf. I will put up a thread about the most anti- Oasis music press in the US in a couple of days. And believe me if you work for Spin or the Village Voice you are gonna wish you had taken a journalism position on the police blotter. What do you mean they changed The Masterplan from 2,5 to 4 stars? I've just been to Rollingstone.com and The Masterplan still got 2,5 stars. |
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Post by Noel's Barmy Army on May 1, 2005 8:03:29 GMT -5
RS is the UK equivalent of Q
editor to writers: "whats that outside our window?"
writers" "it appears to be some kind of wagon"
all: "JUMP ON!"
if its popular/flavour of the month, they'll praise it for fear of losing readers otherwise.
To be fair to the NME, they've not really put the boot into Oasis like Q or RS. NME gave HC 8/10 ffs.
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Post by monkey man on May 1, 2005 8:20:14 GMT -5
RS is the UK equivalent of Q editor to writers: "whats that outside our window?" writers" "it appears to be some kind of wagon" all: "JUMP ON!" if its popular/flavour of the month, they'll praise it for fear of losing readers otherwise. To be fair to the NME, they've not really put the boot into Oasis like Q or RS. NME gave HC 8/10 ffs. agreed, but I though NME was wrong to give HC 8/10. Thats too high in my opinion. Its my least favourite Oasis album by far. The reality in the UK is that if you put Oasis on the cover - you sell a shitload of copies. Everyone knows that the NME is going down the pan, as are their circulation figures. Its hard to rely on them for an unbiased honest opinion anymore....unfortunately |
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on May 1, 2005 12:08:22 GMT -5
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Post by gastritispanic on May 1, 2005 12:20:08 GMT -5
I've had a little chat with Hungbadly. He said that the changed scores were given in a RS hall of fame issue. However Its true that the scores in the permanent oasis section are the same. It doesn't change anything for me. RS is still fucking shit. |
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on May 1, 2005 12:23:34 GMT -5
I've had a little chat with Hungbadly. He said that the changed scores were given in a RS hall of fame issue. However Its true that the scores in the permanent oasis section are the same. It doesn't change anything for me. RS is still fucking shit. I agree. I don't think that the guy who reviewed Heathen Chemistry even had a clue about Liam Gallagher. I don't think one of the cockiest, arrogant, and loudest lead singers in history has as much of an element of "self-loathing" that the guy talks about... |
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Post by meaningofsoul on May 1, 2005 12:28:48 GMT -5
It's true. The website is wrong and has not been updated but DM and MG definitely got 5 stars. Each issue, in the reviews section, they put in a classic hallf of fame album and a little write-up about it. Well MG got the full 5 stars and then it said at the bottom at the end (see also DM: 5 Stars and MP: 4 stars)
I saved that issue. It's somewhere back home...
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Post by gastritispanic on May 1, 2005 12:42:03 GMT -5
I agree. I don't think that the guy who reviewed Heathen Chemistry even had a clue about Liam Gallagher. I don't think one of the cockiest, arrogant, and loudest lead singers in history has as much of an element of "self-loathing" that the guy talks about... I actually like Americans very much, but sometimes I don't know what the hell they are thinking about when it comes to music. The HC review in RS you talk about (Tom Moon RS guy) compares Little by little to Bryan Adams!! What the fuck is that. "Little by little, is the kind of earnest Wind Beneath My Wings crap that even Bryan Adams would know to edit out". Now that kind of fucking shit can make me hate RS from here to eternity. |
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Post by caro on May 1, 2005 12:43:49 GMT -5
the french rolling stone has put chris martin on the cover  and not a word about oasis  |
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on May 1, 2005 12:44:23 GMT -5
I actually like Americans very much, but sometimes I don't know what the hell they are thinking about when it comes to music. The HC review in RS you talk about (Tom Moon RS guy) compares Little by little to Bryan Adams!! What the fuck is that. "Little by little, is the kind of earnest Wind Beneath My Wings crap that even Bryan Adams would know to edit out". Now that kind of fucking shit can make me hate RS from here to eternity. With you on that one. But the vast majority take the rolling stone review as divine mandate...they gave Weezer's Blue Album NO STARS when it was first released, then 4 when it was re-released...absolutely ridiculous |
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Post by belgallagher on May 1, 2005 12:45:25 GMT -5
If they give this album only 3 stars out of 5 someone is gonna have a call from me. and they are recieving a long email from me..  |
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Post by belgallagher on May 1, 2005 12:46:00 GMT -5
the french rolling stone has put chris martin on the cover and not a word about oasis the rs from argentina is terrible.. |
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Post by gastritispanic on May 1, 2005 12:55:30 GMT -5
With you on that one. But the vast majority take the rolling stone review as divine mandate...they gave Weezer's Blue Album NO STARS when it was first released, then 4 when it was re-released...absolutely ridiculous Absolutely true. It's just mind boggling how a magazine that calls themselves Rolling Stone can fuck up so badly on oasis reviews. |
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Post by definitelyme3 on May 1, 2005 13:15:31 GMT -5
Actually RS I think is positioning themself for a hop on the bandwagon. After years of pointless antipathy- culminating in a bizarre display of a personal vendetta when the magazine hired a cartoonist to draw pictures of the Liam Munich bar brawl, gleefully titled "Oasis ass kicking." Since then Oasis they shifted their position about 2 years ago- they've done a total 180. Why? Mainly this point I think- they had greatest album polls and surprising to them Oasis had DM and MG both the in top 50 albums of all time. This made the editors reconsider the damage that had been done to their credibility by slighting the best band of the 90s. From then on when Oasis is mentioned it is in a postive light. About six months ago they put MG in the RS hall of fame records, giving it the full 5 stars, and 5 stars for DM. The Masterplan was given 4 stars, correcting the whiny, disgraceful 2.5 star review it was originally given. Trust me RS likes nothing more than to hop on the closest bandwagon, and thus far the bandwagon is the DBTT is top shelf. I will put up a thread about the most anti- Oasis music press in the US in a couple of days. And believe me if you work for Spin or the Village Voice you are gonna wish you had taken a journalism position on the police blotter. dude are you serious about them changing the ratins for MG, DM, and TMP??? i never even heard of this RS hall of fame... do u have links to these at all?? |
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Post by lionsden® on May 1, 2005 16:43:22 GMT -5
RS gave BHN 4 stars and then mocked it. Chuck Klosterman of Spin gave it 4 stars also and had nothing good to say about in the article. I don't get that |
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Post by StepOut on May 1, 2005 16:46:51 GMT -5
Spin put Noel and Liam on the cover too.
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Post by StepOut on May 1, 2005 16:47:31 GMT -5
I wonder how many stars the new Weezer album will get?
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Post by pizzy on May 1, 2005 16:49:12 GMT -5
that new weezer song is fucking awful i liked some of their other stuff, but that is awful |
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