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Post by webm@ster on Jun 4, 2007 11:12:07 GMT -5
Older generations have always complained that modern rock music is nothing but a monotonous racket.
And now recording experts appear to have confirmed they are right - music is getting louder and the sound of some chart-topping albums is so distorted it is making listeners feel sick.
Record companies and bands like Oasis are using digital technology to ratchet up the volume on CDs to make a bigger impact on their young listeners.
But by artificially pushing up sound levels they also drown out the dynamic range of the song making everything sound 'loud'.
They use a technique called 'peak limiting' which squeezes the sound range on a track to one level by removing the peaks and troughs that would normally separate a quieter verse from a pumping chorus.
Britain's leading studio engineers are now launching a campaign against this widespread technique.
In the days of vinyl the record would jump out of the groove if a track was too loud, but modern CD players respond to the change in frequency by adding a buzzing, distorted sound to the loudest parts of the song.
This can drown out essential musical details like vocals and snare drums and make it unbearable to listen to.
Oasis started the loudness war and recent albums by Arctic Monkeys and Lily Allen have pushed the loudness needle further into the red.
The Red Hot Chilli Peppers' Californication, branded 'unlistenable' by studio experts, is the subject of an online petition calling for it to be remastered without its harsh, compressed sound.
Peter Mew, senior mastering engineer at Abbey Road studios, said: 'Record companies are competing in an arms race to make their album sound the 'loudest'.
'The quieter parts are becoming louder and the loudest parts are just becoming a buzz.'
Mr Mew, who mastered David Bowie's classic 1970s albums, warned that modern albums now induced nausea.
He said: 'The brain is not geared to accept buzzing. CDs induce a sense of fatigue in the listeners. It becomes psychologically tiring and almost impossible to listen to.
Geoff Emerick, engineer on The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper album, said: 'A lot of what is released today is basically a scrunched up mess.
'Whole layers of sound are missing. It is because record companies don't trust listeners to decide themselves if they want to turn the volume up.'
Downloading songs has exacerbated the effect. Songs are compressed once again into digital files before being sold on iTunes and similar sites.
The reduction in quality is so marked that EMI has introduced higher-quality digital tracks, at premium price, in response to consumer demand.
source: The Daily Mail
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Jun 4, 2007 11:33:26 GMT -5
Is that the same thingas 'Red Walling' that they talked about in the DM DVD???
One thing I do hate is when I have to constantly adjust my Sansa (like an ipod) player when I put it on shuffle b/c some songs are just too loud and then when I turn it down I have to then turn up the next song.
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Post by LDD- Angelic Child on Jun 4, 2007 12:42:40 GMT -5
One thing I do hate is when I have to constantly adjust my Sansa (like an ipod) player when I put it on shuffle b/c some songs are just too loud and then when I turn it down I have to then turn up the next song. I hear you brother... pisses me right off
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Post by novascotialad on Jun 4, 2007 13:11:11 GMT -5
brick walling... i suppose the brick wall could be red though
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Post by webm@ster on Jun 4, 2007 13:34:33 GMT -5
some of the common ripping and burning software will compand ( compress and expand) the audio levels for you so that when you put together mixes from different sources your levels won't be all over the place. You might have it and not check the option off when you rip your songs......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2007 14:09:51 GMT -5
I never really noticed any of that, though I also have to continually adjust the volume levels for songs.
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Post by Liffonmelsmork on Jun 4, 2007 14:13:00 GMT -5
The album The Stone Roses is surely the quietest album known to man.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2007 14:43:05 GMT -5
The album The Stone Roses is surely the quietest album known to man. Seriously, it has to be. Thank goodness for remastered versions.
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Post by mattstephens1988 on Jun 5, 2007 6:15:35 GMT -5
All popular music today is very heavily compressed, and yes, Oasis did start this. But its not their fault, its nothing more than a production technique that works very well for Oasis' music, but that has been blown way out of proportion and now everyone uses it on every form of music. Yeah, compression/brick walling does destroy the sound, but you can't deny that if Oasis hadn't used this (particually on Be Here Now), then they would sound very much less-edgy and soft.
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Post by calioasis on Jun 5, 2007 9:31:01 GMT -5
This is interesting and something I had no clue about, completely off of my radar. It seems quite appropriate for an album like DM, I mean that's exactly what Noel was going for, to have his album blown out everyone else's on the jukebox. However just like an arms race everything else then gets amped up too. I didn't even realize this was an issue right now, any audiophiles know anything about this? Is this why I can't get through all of be here now in one sitting?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2007 0:25:02 GMT -5
All popular music today is very heavily compressed, and yes, Oasis did start this. But its not their fault, its nothing more than a production technique that works very well for Oasis' music, but that has been blown way out of proportion and now everyone uses it on every form of music. Yeah, compression/brick walling does destroy the sound, but you can't deny that if Oasis hadn't used this (particually on Be Here Now), then they would sound very much less-edgy and soft. Exactly, it works on same albums, but not all albums.
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Post by Poshbird05 on Jun 6, 2007 17:12:16 GMT -5
The album The Stone Roses is surely the quietest album known to man. I Want to be Adored is prolly one of the softest songs I've ever heard
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Post by Venus In Furs on Jun 6, 2007 22:15:48 GMT -5
The album The Stone Roses is surely the quietest album known to man. Seriously, especially "Elizabeth My Dear"
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