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Post by webm@ster on Feb 19, 2007 8:19:39 GMT -5
NOEL GALLAGHER has issued an ultimatum to brother LIAM — sort your voice out or forget recording another OASIS album. Noel was furious with Liam’s below-par performance at the Brit Awards on Wednesday night.He reckons the rocker’s vocals on hits including Cigarettes & Alcohol failed to match his status as a member of the band that won the Outstanding Contribution gong.
And he told Liam that he needs to rediscover the brilliant, roaring notes that made him the best frontman of his generation . . . otherwise Oasis are no more.
A source said: Noel had some harsh words for Liam after the show.
“He thought Liam’s voice was too nasal and well off his best. He reckons his singing is becoming more pub karaoke than professional.
“Liam wanted to perform Songbird but Noel told him, ‘No chance’. That started a problem beforehand and then they had a huge row over who should keep the award.â€
The source added: “The band had their own sound team so there was no excuse for Liam not being on the money. The arguments have rumbled on since and they’re barely speaking.â€
I have to agree with Noel.
I thought Oasis were brilliant at the Brits, blasting out an explosion of sound at Earl’s Court. But the crowd’s singing drowned out Liam’s vocals.
Having watched it back on TV, he seemed short of breath and strained his voice to the point where he sounded like a caricature of himself. His swagger was still superb and attitude seeped from every pore.
But only Noel got his vocals spot-on during the short set. He absolutely nailed Don’t Look Back In Anger.
In the past six months Noel has been performing more solo gigs, which must irk his younger brother.
An Oasis album is rumoured for the end of 2007 — even though they fulfilled their album deal with Sony with Stop The Clocks — and other labels are queueing up to sign them. There was talk on Wednesday that Liam wasn’t too keen to accept the Brit award.
Perhaps that’s why his singing was not up to scratch.
Here’s hoping it was a one-off and he proves Noel wrong.
The buzz the lads created at the awards proved they are as popular as ever.
I’m sure Liam will shiiiine again.
source: The Sun
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Feb 19, 2007 8:29:24 GMT -5
here we go!
it took three and a half years for him to notice. now i hope something gets done....and i didnt even think glasto 2004 was that bad after all..
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Post by Moorish on Feb 19, 2007 8:43:40 GMT -5
I bet this story is massively mugged up and blown out of proportion by The Sun. It's a fucking rag.
On the other hand, I would LOVE Liam to get his voice sorted (if ineed that is even possible, which I sadly doubt it is).
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Post by MadFerIt2005 on Feb 19, 2007 9:14:21 GMT -5
His voice needs serious work. I would say since the 2000 album his voice has become lower and lower, and more nasal.
The only reason I'm saying all this is, I want his voice to return to it's original glory. He was and still is one of the best singers in any rock band, because his voice is so unique and nobody else has matched it since. No one's voice changes like that without a reason, so maybe he needs to quit smoking, get some vocal cord cleaning, and maybe get a vocal trainer.
And it seems the period between 2005 and 2007 has made it even worse.
Remember, you could always use the excuse "Well he's been touring so much, his voice is getting strained" on tours.. But he hadn't been on tour in almost a year. It's had time to recover. Only Noel and Gem had been on tour over the last year.
But I will say, there's a chance this is 100% bullshit (the story that is), from what I've heard concerning the Sun they tend to make a lot of shit up. But a part of me hopes it's true and this will push Liam into some kind of help.
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Feb 19, 2007 9:43:01 GMT -5
this article is crap - first it says that Liam and Noel had a row about who can keep the award, and then it says "Liam isn't too keen to accept the award"? So first he wants to keep it, and then he doesn't even want to accept it?
Anyway, I can only hope this is true (probably not). If Liams voice continues to fall apart, it might not even be worth it to go to an Oasis live show in the future. On the album he still sounds okay though.
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Post by wolffman on Feb 19, 2007 9:57:01 GMT -5
Noel wasn't the best on Don't Look Back in Anger either.
Its pretty noticable that Liam did MUCH better with R&R Star than C&A, so maybe he just needed to get it warmed up after not doing a show for so long.
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Post by brumoscardo on Feb 19, 2007 10:10:25 GMT -5
Liam's gotta act more like a pro. Maybe reharsals or singing classes. Anyways, I think the article is a straight up bullshit.
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Post by BasementGuitarist on Feb 19, 2007 11:04:54 GMT -5
Overall, I thought Liam's voice sounded considerably better at the Brits than in a lot of their shows during the past tour. However he really does need to work on it. It's easy to make anyone's voice sound good on an album...there are plenty of post-production tools to be used to clean it up and shift the pitch up or down so it sounds perfectly in tune. If Liam is able to somehow get back to his Be Here Now-era voice, I'd be very happy. Probably won't happen though...he's got too much of an attitude to do something like take on a vocal coach.
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Post by castlecraver on Feb 19, 2007 11:26:58 GMT -5
This is entirely overblown. First of all this is <b>The Sun</b>. Second of all, anyone can plainly tell that Liam sounded better than in several points on the DBTT tour, and far and away better than Glastonbury '04. His voice has been dodgy for awhile, and if it took Noel this long to say something about it, after a performance that was really <i>not that bad</i> and quite well-received, I'd be completely shocked.
Liam's showed spots of vocal brilliance as well as utter crap along this last tour, and you've got to expect that given his age and lifestyle. He's not going to sound like the DM RKid any longer, but who the fuck cares? For me, he's got it together enough to be passable, so long as he isn't pulling that Kermit the Frog shit from Glasto.
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Post by caro on Feb 19, 2007 11:38:19 GMT -5
here we go! it took three and a half years for him to notice. now i hope something gets done....and i didnt even think glasto 2004 was that bad after all.. seriously  i haven't seen the brits performance but if you think Glasto 2004 was better   i hope he can do something about that cos i want a new album and i want more tours  |
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Post by vespa on Feb 19, 2007 12:12:57 GMT -5
noels probably startin to notice theres a problem with his vocals thats all,he needs to get some help with it but it looks like hes had advice because of his new stance which takes the strain off his throat slightly,he doesnt sing outta tune if you listen carefully hes just got a very grovelly voice these days thats come from the strain hes put on it over the years
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Post by Colt on Feb 19, 2007 12:14:38 GMT -5
I guarantee this article is pure shit. Noel will never criticize Liam's voice in public. I promise you both Liam and Noel are aware of Liam's deteriorating voice. And if Liam is insecure about one thing in life it is his voice. Noel will publically get after Liam about his drinking, laziness, shit songs he's wrote (Little James), and anything else he can think up, but he will never say anything about Liam's voice. To put down Liam's voice is to put down the voice of Oasis and Noel is not one to slag off his own band. This article is fabricated nonsense.
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Feb 19, 2007 12:52:14 GMT -5
noels probably startin to notice theres a problem with his vocals thats all,he needs to get some help with it but it looks like hes had advice because of his new stance which takes the strain off his throat slightly,he doesnt sing outta tune if you listen carefully hes just got a very grovelly voice these days thats come from the strain hes put on it over the years source: tags.lyricsfreak.com/Liam+Gallagher/ (who stole most of it from wikipedia) Ye it seems Liam got some help with his voice, though I think it hasn't been very succesful up to now I hope he tries harder in the near future, by really quitting smoking and drinking. |
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Post by caro on Feb 19, 2007 15:54:33 GMT -5
seems so unlikely |
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Post by catcher8587 on Feb 19, 2007 20:09:23 GMT -5
The Sun also said that Live Forever wouldn't be on Stop the Clocks and that Ringo would be presenting Oasis with their award at the Brits.
I hope Noel does say something to Liam about his voice though. He should at least get it back to where he was five years ago.
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Post by MadFerIt2005 on Feb 19, 2007 21:25:30 GMT -5
Holy crap.. Are you guys insane?
Any true Oasis fan can admit Liam's voice is getting very bad, and he should seek help to improve it. Not only for his singing, but for his health in general.
Yet you guys have to act like pricks and continuously deny there is any problem with his voice.
Even if this whole story is fake, it still doesn't change that there is a problem.
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Feb 19, 2007 22:23:07 GMT -5
When I look back to early concerts, Liam doesn't lean singing up to the microphone. He also needs to just let the watts carry his voice. He doesn't need to scream the vocals. It's almost like he sings with his upper lip down tight over his top teeth.
Look back at glasto 1994. Yes I know he was much younger, but watch his body language. Even Chicago Metro '94.
He is young enough to fix it.
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Post by Venus In Furs on Feb 19, 2007 22:27:58 GMT -5
I agree with most of who who say that this is probably another story that the Sun has made up/ blown it out of proportion. BUT I do hope that some of this is true, considering I would like Liam to take care of his voice.
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Post by novascotialad on Feb 19, 2007 22:42:31 GMT -5
I CANNOT understand why Noel didn't hit the panic button on liam's voice a couple years ago...
I'm sure that Noel must listen back to the odd performance, so he must know that something needs to be done...
And as far as Noel not wanting to shame his little brother, bollocks. It has never stopped him before. They fight about anything and everything.
The thing is, and I dont wanna come off as being in denial about the voice situation, but to me, it seems as tho sometimes Liam is fighting to hear himself over the bands loud guitars... Now i know that the monitor thing should be sorted out of course... but really tho, doesnt anyone agree that that could be some of the problem?
Liam can still sing.... listen to the acoustic numbers he did with Gem a while back.
Maybe Liam is just getting lazy and feels that he doesnt have to ennunciate every word or keep in the melody... Maybe he thinks that everyone loves the way he sings the tunes now... i dunno.
I think it's probably a mixture of everything we have all said.....
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Feb 20, 2007 3:22:51 GMT -5
i don't know what goings on but 2 things are true
1. Liam's voice isn't the same
2. oasis have one of the worst sound crews in music..today and maybe ever. They never get things right in a gig until a few songs in.
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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 20, 2007 3:33:40 GMT -5
I think Noel wasn't the only one who wasn't happy with Liam's voice at the Brits to be honest.
Every member on this forum might confirm his voice wasn't great on the Brits. Me personally I think it was pretty crap, but his attitude...no one can beat him. He looked dead cool, the best and coolest singer/frontman of the world and that's what everyone else don't owe, but Liam does.
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Feb 20, 2007 3:41:14 GMT -5
Liam can still sing.... listen to the acoustic numbers he did with Gem a while back. that, manchester '05 and madison square garden keep my hopes alive |
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Post by Rain on Feb 20, 2007 4:04:32 GMT -5
I think Liam's downward spiral of his voice hurt Oasis in long run for success here in the states. It was one the main issues. There's really no way of fixing his voice or make it young again. The problem heavy smoking, teeth been knocked out then replaced, and then plus all other drugs he smoked. He has never cared nor taken care of his voice. Other rock stars have gotten way of it,because how their vocal chords are just different.
When I listen to Oasis these days I rather listen Noel singing than Liam. Liam just grunts these days. I have gotten to a point where I couldn't care if Liam ever sings again. Noel does just fine for me.
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Post by liamholland on Feb 20, 2007 5:19:44 GMT -5
long run for succes in the states? i think that sellin out the hollywood bowl 2 times plus madison square garden seems a bit of succes. and 'bout liam's voice, for example paul weller's voice changed a lot, but he seems to find a good way for singin nowadays, liam has to find another way of singin, i saw him in brussel and amsterdam last year and he sounded good to me
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Post by caro on Feb 20, 2007 6:16:52 GMT -5
im sure liam can find a way to cure his voice
i know about two singers (women) who have had massive voice problems and the doctors were saying they wouldnt be able to sing again
well, they did recover and their voices are just perfect
but they're taking good care of it obviously
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