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Post by Elias on Jun 4, 2005 7:07:20 GMT -5
Sun's got a 'where are they now?' thing today talking to all the ex-members. Anyway Whitey has a bit of a go, saying he's sick of the snide comments and that sacking him for missing band meetings was hypocritical.
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Post by beekayhimself on Jun 4, 2005 15:18:02 GMT -5
someone sent me this summary: Bonehead
After leaving did nothing for a year or two, then built his own studio. Was in bands 'Moondog One' & 'The Seers' and is in a Bangkok band now called 'Sek Loso'. They've just finished an album with Owen Morris & they're playing Glastonbury & Lollapalooza this year. Because of his sensible wife he has invested his money well & lives on the outskirts of Manchester. They say he earned £7million from Oasis
Guigsy
He's now got a mop-head of grey hair. Didn't really want to go on the BHN tour, but said to himself 'I'll do one more tour & one more album, then I'll leave it.' Lives in North London & has a porsche. Doing a project with Alan White. They say he earned £6million.
Tony
Says theres no animosity between him, Liam & Noel. Says he applied to join Oasis again as the bass player when Guigsy left, ands he's now volunteering teaching kids music.
Alan
Can't believe he got sacked. Says that Liam & Noel are hypocrites because they don't go on tour because of arguments or wanting to buy a house, but when he does it he gets sacked. Says he got a phone call from an agent or something telling him he was sacked just before Christmas. Earned £4million
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Post by Clint on Jun 4, 2005 17:43:55 GMT -5
Yeah. That is really lame of Noel and Liam to do that to whitey. But like, the thing is, Whitey was just the drummer. They were all involved and writing together and just acted as artists whereas whitey was just the drummer
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Post by Dominic on Jun 4, 2005 17:50:11 GMT -5
whiteys spot on - dissapointed with laim and noel - considering liams antics down the year
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Post by globe on Jun 4, 2005 18:36:18 GMT -5
whiteys spot on - dissapointed with laim and noel - considering liams antics down the year I agree Dom
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Post by Jabasso on Jun 4, 2005 19:24:12 GMT -5
Fuck Whitey. We've got ZAK STARKEY! Whitey always seemed like a bit of a cock anyway. He just had that air about him. This just reinforces it. He's being a bitter bitch.
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Post by StepOut on Jun 4, 2005 19:27:20 GMT -5
Honestly the more I read about the Gallagher brothers, I think that Noel and Liam care more about themselves then their bandmates. For example, when Andy and Gem joined the lineup, they were paid as employees of Noel Gallagher, they weren't officially part of the band. They were hired help. That has changed of course now, they're part of the band and they both get a certain cut. But you just have to sit and wonder why Guigs and Bonehead left, then add the situation with Alan to the mix, definitely makes me wonder.
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Post by robbiegpope on Jun 4, 2005 19:54:46 GMT -5
Well at the end of the day his earned 4 million and been one of the best bands in the world, its always been noels and liams band.
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Post by MSprague01 on Jun 4, 2005 21:15:23 GMT -5
Well at the end of the day his earned 4 million and been one of the best bands in the world, its always been noels and liams band. And if he does like it says Bonehead did and is sensible with his money, he'll never have to work another day in his life. Don't feel sorry for him a bit. I don't see why he's being bitter. It's just going to give Liam and Noel a reason to dislike him now and slag him off. At least Bonehead is grateful for the opportunity he had. As far as I know, people weren't paying money for Oasis albums and concert tickets because Alan White was the drummer.
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Post by Jabasso on Jun 4, 2005 22:19:29 GMT -5
Okay, who wants to say "Kill Whitey!" with me? Eh?
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Post by mape on Jun 4, 2005 23:27:46 GMT -5
if the things whitey is saying have some truth to them, then i can understand why he may be ticked off.
if like noel said, that there was no animosity between them, then they could have at least given him a good sending off instead of surrounding it in a cloud of mystery and not letting anyone in on what really happened.
and i don't get all this business of people saying that 'he wasn't contributing to the band' just cos he wasn't writing songs. Sure he's the drummer, but i don't know many bands where all the members are supposed to write songs.
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Post by giggergrl on Jun 4, 2005 23:53:13 GMT -5
hey, I saw this on sun online but it did not give full details. ya gotta buy it.. anway.. thanks.. I hear what ya'll are saying. I am not a shrink and I cld be dead wrong, but I have always thought that Noel and Liam's "ways" may stem from their past with their father and massive unresolved issues with him. I get the impression that they have MUCH repressed anger (who wouldn't ?) It seems they may have the ability to "turn off their feelings for ppl ?" (i.e. BAND MEMBERS) I read in "Take me there " I think that their dad was abusive and a drinker and Noel beat him up one day, dad was hospitalized and they all packed up their things and left ? have not really spoken since ? There was supposedly a "meet up" with Liam and his dad in the early 90's and it was UGLY. ? Liam also reportedly made the statement about his dad "There's no undoing that.." I think they may be "survivors" and look out for themselves first Who knows ? But there is always an underlying ROOT of why we do the things we do and how we treat others and react. blah blah.. PSYCHoBABBLE here
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Post by thebluesgnr on Jun 5, 2005 1:05:32 GMT -5
giggergrl, a few corrections (if what I read was correct - lol).
Their dad used to spend days out of the house drinking, and when he came back he would be very agressive. So finally one time he came back and they were all gone.
About the meeting story... some shitty reporter knowing their past thought it would be a good idea to have a meeting between Noel, Liam and their father. Basically the fucker knew that Oasis were "bad boys" and there was gonna be some confusion, hopefully some fighting, so he could write a story at the expensive of Noel's and Liam's lifes. That's the lowest form of a human being. When Noel found out that his dad was in the hotel he went up to his room and locked himself... Liam on the other hand tried to go and beat his father up, but security took care of it before anything happened.
About Alan leaving, the band felt it was best for Oasis for him to leave, and I have to say they were right. Everything else is just speculation I would rather ignore, cos the truth is we'll never know what really goes on behind the scenes. And it's not like Alan was an original member.
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Post by giggergrl on Jun 5, 2005 7:05:39 GMT -5
gotcha - thanks
the reporter - lowest form of a human - I agree. wow...
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Post by Elan Morin Tedronai on Jun 5, 2005 7:40:16 GMT -5
Noel always said that when he wrote a song and play it to Whitey, Alan would advise him to changes in the tempo, apart from just drumming suitably. Also I believe Noel Gallagher that he fucked off, and they didn't kicked him out. But if this is true, shame on the Gallaghers. They lost their best drummer and have bad ego...
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Post by Guess God Thinks I'm Cain on Jun 5, 2005 8:00:21 GMT -5
I miss Whitey, but let's move on. It's a great time to be an oasis fan right now, plus his royalties alone will sustain whatever he wants to do with the rest of his life. I welcome Zak, I think he's mega.
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Post by calioasis on Jun 5, 2005 15:02:53 GMT -5
There is a double standard with Liam and Alan, but you know Noel would have thrown Liam out a long time ago if he wasn't so indespensable to the band. The grief Noel must have put up with over the years trying to get Liam to fall in line, it's unimaginable.
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Post by rubbersoulll on Jun 6, 2005 20:01:24 GMT -5
it´s simple: oasis are liam and noel... the others are there only because noel can´t play bass, 2 guitars and drums at same time... if they can write songs, better for the band, but if not, fuck off, liam and noel can do it alone - because tony, whitey, guigsy, bonehead, gem and andy didn´t wrote DLBIA, r´n´r star, stand by me, and aren´t the best frontman england saw since john lennon...
simple
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Post by rubbersoulll on Jun 6, 2005 20:03:00 GMT -5
are you happy by playing on Oasis? ok, who wouldn´t be? are you unhappy? move on, there´s about 341,495,893.00 people wanting to tour with us.
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Post by dollylovesg on Jun 7, 2005 6:21:18 GMT -5
I'd rather have Zak too. I think he's great. And how much does he look like Ringo circa the Rain Video in the Lyla vid?! Fab. What more can you ask for?! I think they only had Alan White because he had the same name as a Beatles drummer. (Alan White was the drummer for the first single Love Me Do, after Pete was sack and Ringo was employed but George Martin wanted to use his own fella anyway. I beleive.)
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Post by Elan Morin Tedronai on Jun 7, 2005 14:50:36 GMT -5
I believe they took Whitey, because they knew that Steve White was excellent drummer for Style Council and Paul Weller and also because Noel heard that the young one was talented perfomer and that urged him to take him with the band. I've never heard of third Alan White. If we took off your shite logic, they must've hired Whitey because of his namesake - the Yes drummer Alan White. Your arguments are shit!!
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Post by nyr401994 on Jun 7, 2005 15:55:42 GMT -5
boo fucking hoo whitey
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Post by lemonjelly on Jun 7, 2005 17:14:31 GMT -5
whiteys drum lines were getting pretty old too. He was fantastic on WTSMG, but by HC, he seemed to be phoning it in
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Post by Columbia on Jun 7, 2005 17:22:32 GMT -5
I dont think there is any need for him to be bitter. He was in the biggest band in the world once and not because of his own talents but because of noel and liams. He should be grateful for what they gave him.
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Post by masterplan200 on Jun 7, 2005 18:17:57 GMT -5
As a Yes fan, I'm offended by your comment there. Whitey is by far a cooler drummer name though
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