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Post by AlexTHFC on May 28, 2005 6:48:21 GMT -5
I always hear people on here talking about Coldplay and Oasis in terms of US success, well I just found out from an up to date website that "Parachutes" is certified as 2X Platinum, which means 2 million copies (obviously that could be anything up to 2.99 million). And "A Rush of Blood To The Head" is certified 3X Platinum so over 3 million copies. And of course we all know Morning Glory was certified 4X platinum, so whereas Coldplay are definitely more popular in the US than Oasis today, they still haven't reached the heights Oasis did. Here's a link to the site: www.rockonthenet.com/artists-c/coldplay.htm
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Post by snowman on May 28, 2005 8:48:26 GMT -5
morning glory came before the great mp3 download take-over of the music industry. just fyi.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2005 11:35:09 GMT -5
morning glory came before the great mp3 download take-over of the music industry. just fyi. i take you are into coldplay..lol..i like them but to me there music just doesent hit me the way OASIS does as i have said many times when coldplay sellout knebworth 2 nights on the trot inspire dresscodes or hairstyles in the uk then i will say they are as big as OASIS in there prime..and mp3 or not do you think any of the first 2 coldplay lps would have outsold wtsmg in the uk ? where its the secomnd biggest seller ever? i am from the usa coldplay are bigger here no doubt but back in 95 OASIS were just as big your mp3 thing hold a little weight but not 2 million for parachutes or 3 million for rush.do you think that mp3 have prevented coldplay from selling 2 million copies more of parachutes ? or 1 million more of rush? give me a break man thats reaching that means mp3 affected 100percent of parachutes and 33percent of rush THAT SAID TODAY COLDPLAY ARE BIGGER NO DOUBT...but in the uk you can still get tix for the coldplay outdoor gigs that are like 20,000 seats each gig smaller than the OASIS outdoor gigs that sold out in hours,so there u cannot question who is bigger to the concert goers
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Post by Dominic on May 28, 2005 11:37:57 GMT -5
coldplay are still trying to sell out there gigs - they are nice to meet you pop stars - oasis where the most real band ever - very honest and in your face - they saved british music - but the american industry didnt need saving and they just dont get them - to each there own - i dont get any of that urban rap nonsense to be honest
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Post by snowman on May 28, 2005 12:44:40 GMT -5
morning glory came before the great mp3 download take-over of the music industry. just fyi. i take you are into coldplay..lol..i like them but to me there music just doesent hit me the way OASIS does as i have said many times when coldplay sellout knebworth 2 nights on the trot inspire dresscodes or hairstyles in the uk then i will say they are as big as OASIS in there prime..and mp3 or not do you think any of the first 2 coldplay lps would have outsold wtsmg in the uk ? where its the secomnd biggest seller ever? i am from the usa coldplay are bigger here no doubt but back in 95 OASIS were just as big your mp3 thing hold a little weight but not 2 million for parachutes or 3 million for rush.do you think that mp3 have prevented coldplay from selling 2 million copies more of parachutes ? or 1 million more of rush? give me a break man thats reaching that means mp3 affected 100percent of parachutes and 33percent of rush THAT SAID TODAY COLDPLAY ARE BIGGER NO DOUBT...but in the uk you can still get tix for the coldplay outdoor gigs that are like 20,000 seats each gig smaller than the OASIS outdoor gigs that sold out in hours,so there u cannot question who is bigger to the concert goers no, not in particular. just pointing out that he's comparing numbers from two different eras -- one where record sales weren't hampered by people downloading everything at the click of a button. five years and technology makes an ocean of difference.
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Post by 10 - Nick McCabe on May 28, 2005 13:20:33 GMT -5
rubbish
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Post by AlexTHFC on May 29, 2005 21:30:02 GMT -5
It does make a slight bit of difference. But like Kalas said, its highly unlikely that 2 million people downloaded parachutes instead of buying it, which is roughly the amount it would need to have sold as many as Morning Glory in the US.
The real thing Coldplay fans should boast about is that they've had 2 albums in a row sell over 2 million copies in the US, whereas Oasis could only manage that once (with MG). So Coldplay have definitely been more "consistent" in the US than Oasis, and that'll probably continue with the new album.
Personally I love both bands. But Oasis are better!
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Post by StepOut on May 29, 2005 22:27:38 GMT -5
I always hear people on here talking about Coldplay and Oasis in terms of US success, well I just found out from an up to date website that "Parachutes" is certified as 2X Platinum, which means 2 million copies (obviously that could be anything up to 2.99 million). And "A Rush of Blood To The Head" is certified 3X Platinum so over 3 million copies. And of course we all know Morning Glory was certified 4X platinum, so whereas Coldplay are definitely more popular in the US than Oasis today, they still haven't reached the heights Oasis did. Here's a link to the site: www.rockonthenet.com/artists-c/coldplay.htmyou don't make any sense. You say that Coldplay have definitely sold more albums in the states than Oasis, yet they still haven't reached the same heights Oasis have. I disagree, I think Coldplay are on the verge of becoming the biggest band in the world, their new single is doing very well in terms of airplay and downloads (itunes), as well, X&Y is getting great reviews. You can't say Coldplay will never be as big as Oasis or will never be in the same league as Oasis just because they didn't influence people's haircuts and how people dress. It's not 1995 anymore, it's 2005 and Coldplay and Oasis are two completely different bands. Are Oasis bigger in the UK than Coldplay? Absolutely, but when you look at North America which is the holy grail for bands, Coldplay dominate.
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Post by AlexTHFC on May 30, 2005 5:55:26 GMT -5
"you don't make any sense. You say that Coldplay have definitely sold more albums in the states than Oasis, yet they still haven't reached the same heights Oasis have" Read my post you twat! I never said that. I said that Coldplay are more popular RIGHT NOW, and are selling more than Oasis RIGHT NOW and in recent years. But the reason I said they haven't reached the heights in the US as Oasis is simple, because they HAVE NOT!!! It is a fact that Morning Glory has sold over 4 million in the US and no Coldplay album has (so far) sold over 3 million. That is a fact which means no Coldplay album has sold as much as MG in the US. So please read my post properly before making nonsensical replies. And check this link: www.rockonthenet.com/artists-c/coldplay.htm It will show you Parachutes 2 times platinum. Rush of Blood to the Head 3 times. Then search for Oasis and see MG 4 times platinum. That is why I said they "haven't reached the heights of Oasis".
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Post by nyr401994 on May 30, 2005 10:15:21 GMT -5
those pricks at rolling stone gave parachutes 3 1/2 stars?!?! what the fuck!!! (sounds familiar, innit?)
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Post by themonkeyman on May 30, 2005 10:18:22 GMT -5
those pricks at rolling stone gave parachutes 3 1/2 stars?!?! what the fuck!!! (sounds familiar, innit?) is 3.5 stars good? ? Personally i think that A Rush Of Blood..... is a brilliant album but I'm not a huge fan of Parachutes and I don't particuarly like their new single
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2005 10:35:17 GMT -5
I always hear people on here talking about Coldplay and Oasis in terms of US success, well I just found out from an up to date website that "Parachutes" is certified as 2X Platinum, which means 2 million copies (obviously that could be anything up to 2.99 million). And "A Rush of Blood To The Head" is certified 3X Platinum so over 3 million copies. And of course we all know Morning Glory was certified 4X platinum, so whereas Coldplay are definitely more popular in the US than Oasis today, they still haven't reached the heights Oasis did. Here's a link to the site: www.rockonthenet.com/artists-c/coldplay.htmyou don't make any sense. You say that Coldplay have definitely sold more albums in the states than Oasis, yet they still haven't reached the same heights Oasis have. I disagree, I think Coldplay are on the verge of becoming the biggest band in the world, their new single is doing very well in terms of airplay and downloads (itunes), as well, X&Y is getting great reviews. You can't say Coldplay will never be as big as Oasis or will never be in the same league as Oasis just because they didn't influence people's haircuts and how people dress. It's not 1995 anymore, it's 2005 and Coldplay and Oasis are two completely different bands. Are Oasis bigger in the UK than Coldplay? Absolutely, but when you look at North America which is the holy grail for bands, Coldplay dominate. U ARE RIGHT coldplay dominate because they appeal to kids girls older people they are mellow rock ,OASIS are a better band COLDPLAY did what OASIS could not sustain momentum in america because OASIS are a rock band in the truest form they have a mtv unplugged but fuck it up cause they fight ,they cancelled tours cause of bust ups housemoving problems and liam wanting to watch footy all of this after they siold over 4 million copies of WTSMG coldplay on the other hand had there lead singer marry the american princess pltrow which guarantees them enormous popularity with the "in" crowd here. they are polite in there interviews and never cancel gigs all this leads to mainstream media promoting them like crazy which equals more lp sales OASIS on the other hand had it all and fucked it away cause they were livin the rock and roll life not playin it safe thats why i love them...also can anyone out there honestly say any of the 2 coldplay lps(which i like) are as rocking or hit u in the face like DM?
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on May 30, 2005 11:15:10 GMT -5
coldplay are still trying to sell out there gigs - they are nice to meet you pop stars - oasis where the most real band ever - very honest and in your face - they saved british music - but the american industry didnt need saving and they just dont get them - to each there own - i dont get any of that urban rap nonsense to be honest Urban rap in America is terrible. Back in the day, rappers like Tupac Shakur were actually rapping about something, if anyone's heard the song "Changes" you know what I'm saying. It had a message and it was real. Today all rap is about how rich and horny the rappers are, all of 50 Cent's new CD (and I kid you not) is songs about him having sex. Rap had one moment of clarity, but I can honestly say it's now a complete load of garbage.
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Post by StepOut on May 30, 2005 11:42:24 GMT -5
"you don't make any sense. You say that Coldplay have definitely sold more albums in the states than Oasis, yet they still haven't reached the same heights Oasis have" Read my post you twat! I never said that. I said that Coldplay are more popular RIGHT NOW, and are selling more than Oasis RIGHT NOW and in recent years. But the reason I said they haven't reached the heights in the US as Oasis is simple, because they HAVE NOT!!! It is a fact that Morning Glory has sold over 4 million in the US and no Coldplay album has (so far) sold over 3 million. That is a fact which means no Coldplay album has sold as much as MG in the US. So please read my post properly before making nonsensical replies. And check this link: www.rockonthenet.com/artists-c/coldplay.htm It will show you Parachutes 2 times platinum. Rush of Blood to the Head 3 times. Then search for Oasis and see MG 4 times platinum. That is why I said they "haven't reached the heights of Oasis". wow you're a big man calling me a twat over the net. How can Coldplay not have reached the same heights of Oasis in America, even though Coldplay have sold more records than Oasis in the US. Sure, MG sold more records by a small margin, but combine the sales of Parchutes and AROBTTH, Coldplay have sold more records than Oasis.
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Post by StepOut on May 30, 2005 11:46:28 GMT -5
you don't make any sense. You say that Coldplay have definitely sold more albums in the states than Oasis, yet they still haven't reached the same heights Oasis have. I disagree, I think Coldplay are on the verge of becoming the biggest band in the world, their new single is doing very well in terms of airplay and downloads (itunes), as well, X&Y is getting great reviews. You can't say Coldplay will never be as big as Oasis or will never be in the same league as Oasis just because they didn't influence people's haircuts and how people dress. It's not 1995 anymore, it's 2005 and Coldplay and Oasis are two completely different bands. Are Oasis bigger in the UK than Coldplay? Absolutely, but when you look at North America which is the holy grail for bands, Coldplay dominate. U ARE RIGHT coldplay dominate because they appeal to kids girls older people they are mellow rock ,OASIS are a better band COLDPLAY did what OASIS could not sustain momentum in america because OASIS are a rock band in the truest form they have a mtv unplugged but fuck it up cause they fight ,they cancelled tours cause of bust ups housemoving problems and liam wanting to watch footy all of this after they siold over 4 million copies of WTSMG coldplay on the other hand had there lead singer marry the american princess pltrow which guarantees them enormous popularity with the "in" crowd here. they are polite in there interviews and never cancel gigs all this leads to mainstream media promoting them like crazy which equals more lp sales OASIS on the other hand had it all and fucked it away cause they were livin the rock and roll life not playin it safe thats why i love them...also can anyone out there honestly say any of the 2 coldplay lps(which i like) are as rocking or hit u in the face like DM? You're right Kalas, Oasis fucked it up in the US. You can't get anywhere in the States by slagging people off and cancelling shows. They got away with it for awhile, but soon after people saw right through it. They still have a very strong dedicated following though when they go on tour. I think that a lot of the major radio and tv stations have given up on Oasis simply because of their past behavior, doesn't mean they won't make great records anymore or sell out shows. As for Coldplay, their first two lps aren't as rocking or in your face as DM. I don't think you can compare both bands' music, they're completely different from each other.
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Post by billlumbergh on May 30, 2005 13:19:29 GMT -5
Coldplay is probably the hottest rock band in the U.S. period. Given the massive size of their venues, Oasis is doing extraordinarily well 10 years on. But Coldplay is poised to be the top band that is not U2.
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Post by AlexTHFC on May 30, 2005 13:40:46 GMT -5
"wow you're a big man calling me a twat over the net. How can Coldplay not have reached the same heights of Oasis in America, even though Coldplay have sold more records than Oasis in the US. Sure, MG sold more records by a small margin, but combine the sales of Parchutes and AROBTTH, Coldplay have sold more records than Oasis. "
That just means Coldplay have sustained their success and been more consistent. Until they have an album sell as much as Morning Glory they won't have reached the heights of Oasis. And if you can't admit that then yes you are a twat!
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Post by AlexTHFC on May 30, 2005 13:42:16 GMT -5
"but combine the sales of Parchutes and AROBTTH, Coldplay have sold more records than Oasis. "
That is also not true. Morning Glory, Be Here Now & DM have sold well over 6 million in the US combined. Plus the other albums. That is more than Parachutes & AROBTTH combined. Deal with it.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2005 15:36:47 GMT -5
this really has degenerated into a slaggin match ..lets face facts step out makes some good points (though i dont consider 2 lps totalling 3 million to 1 OASIS lp selling 4 million) to be a small margin, BUT that aside step out makes valid points coldplay are the darlings and will outsell OASIS here. does it make them better hell no, was boston better than the rolling stones because there debut album outsold the stones lp in the same timespan? no way but they appealed to the pop audience much like coldplay, fair play. alex you make good points too ( i happen to agree) but step is right COLDPLAY are more popular im america today.
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Post by AlexTHFC on May 31, 2005 5:55:01 GMT -5
If you read my posts I did say Coldplay were more popular today (that is fairly obvious). But they haven't had an album sell as much as Morning Glory. That is all I've said, Step Out tried to spin my words which is why I called him a twat!
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