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Post by Clint on May 7, 2005 23:26:16 GMT -5
But it's just such a shame that Liam's voice isn't at all what it was. Honestly, I just went through and listened to some early demos. It was soooo much different. Then Definitely Maybe, it was great. Clear but rock and roll. What's the Story was the strongest. Be Here Now saw some loss of range, but then you got to some Giants stuff. The live stuff sounded terrible. Wembly isn't that great at all. But Radioaid gained some of it back. I dunno, it's just depressing really. He should have taken better care of it, because that's not natural. He just pushes everything out way too much and it's not goo for one's throat.
Does anybody find it interesting that none of the band ever acknowledges it? Nobody asks them about it, Noel never comments, Liam never comments. Noel has said it's always getting better, but man, it isn't. It definitely has improved since 2000 now. But it'll never be anywhere where it was in 95.
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Post by thebluesgnr on May 8, 2005 0:26:07 GMT -5
They don't comment because it's a natural thing that happens to every singer - the voice just changes. Not many good singers stick around for as long as Liam has though.
His voice on the new album is wonderful, it fits the new songs better than his 95 voice would.
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Post by caro on May 8, 2005 2:23:27 GMT -5
liam sounded very fresh and very young around 93-94-95...
different now but i still like it and i agree with the bluesgnr that it fits better the new songs than his former voice could...
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Post by drunken guitar pop on May 8, 2005 3:00:29 GMT -5
I came in here to see a horse get its ass kicked. Really disappointed now.  If preserving it would've meant straining it less and holding a straight posture I wouldn't want that changed. And as for now and what's to come look at it this way - it probably will in fact fit in better with the more mature songs they'll be doing, and his songwriting is still improving even if his voice has seen better days. Also Noel's voice has been getting better. |
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Post by monkey man on May 8, 2005 5:49:04 GMT -5
Whilst all singers voices change there's a difference between a 'changed' voice and a 'ruined' one. Whilst the vocals seem a bit better on DBTT it has in general got awful. Its growly and mucky wherever he sings - low, high or medium. Its a shame. The posture didn't help.
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Post by mctavernbuckle on May 8, 2005 6:37:21 GMT -5
I think his vox on Lyla are phenomenal. Haven't heard the rest of the album though.
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Post by MontrealMike on May 8, 2005 9:14:50 GMT -5
liam sounded very fresh and very young around 93-94-95... different now but i still like it and i agree with the bluesgnr that it fits better the new songs than his former voice could... Hmm, maybe it was because he WAS fresh and only 21 years old. |
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Post by MontrealMike on May 8, 2005 9:16:27 GMT -5
Does anybody find it interesting that none of the band ever acknowledges it (Liam's bad voice)? Nobody asks them about it, Noel never comments, Liam never comments. Noel has said it's always getting better, but man, it isn't. It definitely has improved since 2000 now. But it'll never be anywhere where it was in 95. Why would Noel say: "buy our records...Liam's voice ain't as good as before, but buy the records anyways.". And Liam does comment on his voice. Why do you think that Liam always stresses that he likes his voice more today than 10 years ago? He always says that he doesn't like his old voice, even though he's heard the criticism and he knows a lot of fans prefer the 'old' voice. He knows it's changed, and I think he tries to cover it up by saying stuff like: 'well, I like my rock n roll voice more today'. I know thats pyschobabble, but that's my two cents... |
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Post by lyla on May 8, 2005 10:29:56 GMT -5
i like his earlier voice to - but i also liked BHN vocals very much. but i did think the vocals on album lyla are pretty damned good
and not jsut that it naturally changes - but if you smoke for over what? 10, 15 years? its gonna take affect on your voice. it's to be expected
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Post by Clint on May 8, 2005 12:40:12 GMT -5
yeah, I love his voice on certain songs like Born on a Different Cloud. That tune blows me a way. Gas Panic is amazing. I just wish Live Forever sounded like it use to live, yanno? I still ove the band  I remember posting a topic about this on Oasisinet, what a bunch of wankers. "FUCK OFF IF YOU DONT LIKE THE BAND DONT LISTEN TO THEM." "YOU'RE NOT A TRUE OASIS FAN" It's awful over there. And it isn't THAT natural to happen. Lennon or Macca only got stronger. Liam should have taken better care of it, and I dunno, just what I think. Still love the dude. He rocks |
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Post by Moorish on May 9, 2005 9:39:27 GMT -5
Why would Noel say: "buy our records...Liam's voice ain't as good as before, but buy the records anyways.". And Liam does comment on his voice. Why do you think that Liam always stresses that he likes his voice more today than 10 years ago? He always says that he doesn't like his old voice, even though he's heard the criticism and he knows a lot of fans prefer the 'old' voice. He knows it's changed, and I think he tries to cover it up by saying stuff like: 'well, I like my rock n roll voice more today'. I know thats pyschobabble, but that's my two cents... The growly voice works fantastically for tunes like Lyla, or Eyeball Tickler. But I have to say on tunes like LTBL, or LLAB, I do miss the surprising tenderness Liam could produce in his voice, such as you can hear on songs like Cast No Shadow, or the opening of Champagne Supernova. He should chnage it around between the two, rather than just rasping all the time (if he even could, that is). LTBL in particular would sound SO much cooler with a clearer vocal from Liam. |
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Post by Clint on May 9, 2005 13:51:46 GMT -5
Oh I disagree there. I think Let There be Love is fine. Liam sounds more colder and gruff, then Noel comes in and it's totally warm sounding. Excellent.
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Post by iamthewalrus on May 9, 2005 21:08:45 GMT -5
of the new songs i think liam sounds pretty good but like most have said not as good as say in 95-96...the way his voice has changed doesn't seem to be a natural progression either. Hes destroyed his voice yet somehow i still love him on vox
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Post by Moorish on May 11, 2005 11:20:46 GMT -5
Oh I disagree there. I think Let There be Love is fine. Liam sounds more colder and gruff, then Noel comes in and it's totally warm sounding. Excellent. That's cool, each to his own. I think partly as well we have to consider that the way the songs are mixed contributes to how we hear Liam's voice. On the new album, he sings LLAB and GGTIA in much the same way, but to me GGTIA sounds like a much better vocal, the hoarseness has been taken off it in the mix. Whereas with LLAB, it sounds like it has been mixed deliberately to make Liam sound raspy - the treble is all up in his voice, there is no "sweeteing" of the sound. The worst offender among the new songs in this regard (IMO) is Won't Let You Down. The songs is mixed well apart from Liam's voice, where the echo and treble are through the roof! He sounds almost like a caricature of himself on this song, it distracts from the tune. |
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Post by Meltdown on May 11, 2005 14:06:07 GMT -5
How much it would help his voice, if he could stop smoking and drinking on tour? I´m not expert on these singing things, but what do you think?
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Post by Clint on May 11, 2005 14:38:41 GMT -5
I don't think the smoking or drinking really do anything. Noel drinks and smokes.
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Post by iamthewalrus on May 11, 2005 15:13:07 GMT -5
yeah thatws true shortdude...actually a lot of the classic rock artists drank and smoked or still do and their voices are still pretty decent...I think the issue probably more has to do with how liams been using his voice and the way he sings...jmo
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Post by Meltdown on May 11, 2005 15:58:17 GMT -5
yeah thatws true shortdude...actually a lot of the classic rock artists drank and smoked or still do and their voices are still pretty decent...I think the issue probably more has to do with how liams been using his voice and the way he sings...jmo Well drugs maybe then? any influence? He should do some some warm-up singing practising before gig. Someone here said that he doesn´t do any and that also can damage his voice. I just hope, that he won´t lose his voice on tour or do more damage. |
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Post by jayg on May 11, 2005 16:05:21 GMT -5
yeah thatws true shortdude...actually a lot of the classic rock artists drank and smoked or still do and their voices are still pretty decent...I think the issue probably more has to do with how liams been using his voice and the way he sings...jmo Well drugs maybe then? any influence? He should do some some warm-up singing practising before gig. Someone here said that he doesn´t do any and that also can damage his voice. I just hope, that he won´t lose his voice on tour or do more damage. Mate, where bouts in Finland yer from? Ive been theyre twice now to espoo, going back over in July for 2months, great country!! |
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Post by Meltdown on May 12, 2005 6:07:59 GMT -5
Well drugs maybe then? any influence? He should do some some warm-up singing practising before gig. Someone here said that he doesn´t do any and that also can damage his voice. I just hope, that he won´t lose his voice on tour or do more damage. Mate, where bouts in Finland yer from? Ive been theyre twice now to espoo, going back over in July for 2months, great country!! Thanks mate! Finland really is great country  Only problem is that Oasis would not play here on this tour I think..But I´m from Ylivieska. It´s a very small city close to Oulu in north. It´s about 140 km. from Oulu. Hope that helps you somehow? |
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