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Post by Moorish on Apr 22, 2005 6:22:40 GMT -5
and i will tell u wat lisa i love bhn but thats me ,but u are dead right if someone sat NOEL down and said they are overproduced and he took 2 minutes off DYKWIM AATW ITS GETTIN BETTER MAN, MAGIC PIE,it would have been radio freindly and another smash good points lisa Cheers mate, appreciate that. Again, sorry if ranted on a bit but (as you can tell) feel quite strongly about BHN.  And you're absolutely right, with some scaled back production and a few minutes pruning on the tunes, BHN would have been more radio friendly and successful and, more importantly, just a lot more FUN to listen to, which I think is what turned off a lot of the general public about it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2005 6:26:45 GMT -5
Cheers mate, appreciate that. Again, sorry if ranted on a bit but (as you can tell) feel quite strongly about BHN. And you're absolutely right, with some scaled back production and a few minutes pruning on the tunes, BHN would have been more radio friendly and successful and, more importantly, just a lot more FUN to listen to, which I think is what turned off a lot of the general public about it. i can understand where they are comin from i was heavily into cocaine back then and the stuff i did makes me cringe now,but then it seemed normal, thats pretty much how NOEL has described recording BHN had he laid off the coke the lp would have been tighter but when your high its tough to tell the difference between being high or just plain out of it..if u get my drift |
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Post by Elias on Apr 22, 2005 6:35:42 GMT -5
I've discussed this in many pubs over many stella's!
I won't go into two much detail, I'll just say great songs, great vox, fuck off guitars, and a reflection on where noel and the band were at the time of recording, to me, that all equals a classic record.
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Post by muzzamuzza on Apr 22, 2005 6:45:46 GMT -5
Class album. Not a bad song on it imo
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Post by lyla on Apr 22, 2005 8:32:15 GMT -5
i think most of what i want to say have already been said....i agree that it is overproduced, and all around the world isnt as good as noel made it out to be...but that its a great album with fuckin good songs, and that it was unfairly dismissed. so yes....
Be Here Now is GOOD!
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Post by A_Storm_In_Heaven on Apr 22, 2005 8:34:06 GMT -5
Be Here now is my favourite oasis album and I dont understand the critisim of it one bit. Every songs brilliant. Turn it up dead loud then you'll see |
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Post by rob on Apr 22, 2005 9:41:42 GMT -5
bhn is the perfect album to get pissed to.....
enough said
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Post by Moorish on Apr 22, 2005 11:43:15 GMT -5
bhn is the perfect album to get pissed to..... enough said I would argue that Morning Glory is a better record to get pissed to - Wonderwall, DLBIA, Some Might Say, to name a few highlights, then climaxing with the explosion of Champagne Supernova. I was actually in a pub last Saturday and a group of blokes at the bar (quite far gone) spontaneously burst into "Somewhere you will find me / Caught beneath the landslide..." was great. I've actually got a version of BHN on MD which I made, editing the tracks down (usually the over-the-top musical interludes), and swapping MBM for Stay Young and finishing the album with The Masterplan. I prefer listening to that version - the whole thing only takes an hour, compared to 72 minutes!  |
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Post by lango79 on Apr 22, 2005 12:41:19 GMT -5
does anyone have the be here now remastered bootleg?  or know where i could get it from? cheers!!!! |
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Post by Ben L. on Apr 22, 2005 15:44:43 GMT -5
you are not the first one asking
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Post by soquester on Apr 22, 2005 16:47:33 GMT -5
Be Here Now has some phenomenal songs. Unfortunately, like has been said, there's just too much going on in each song. I think My Big Mouth and I Hope, I Think, I Know are the best examples of it. The bridge to the chorus in MBM has the bit with the extra sort of vocal swirly bits (I have no idea how to describe it - the bit right before "..caught you sleeping with the enemy"), but it's not necessary. Not to mention that there's like 15 guitar tracks on each song.
The best suggestion that I've heard would be for the band to go back to the recording of it, and remaster it with two guitar tracks, bass, drums and vocals, and make each song not a lot longer than 3:30... Basically release a Be Here Now... Naked type record. Because if you think of the way the songs would sound, it would be AMAZING.
Take the sorta live sound that came out of this tour and put it on a record, because that was Oasis at their best. It's a shame that Noel hates the album so much, because I LOVE the boots from the tour following BHN's release. Be Here Now is one of the best live songs they've ever written.
I wouldn't say that Be Here Now is an underrated record, it's got a reputation for being over-produced, and it's justified. I would say that the band messed it up just a bit, but it's a solid record that's good to listen to once in a while, just not as often as other Oasis albums...
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Post by God In A Phonebox on Apr 22, 2005 17:06:30 GMT -5
Be Here Now has some phenomenal songs. Unfortunately, like has been said, there's just too much going on in each song. I think My Big Mouth and I Hope, I Think, I Know are the best examples of it. The bridge to the chorus in MBM has the bit with the extra sort of vocal swirly bits (I have no idea how to describe it - the bit right before "..caught you sleeping with the enemy"), but it's not necessary. Not to mention that there's like 15 guitar tracks on each song. The best suggestion that I've heard would be for the band to go back to the recording of it, and remaster it with two guitar tracks, bass, drums and vocals, and make each song not a lot longer than 3:30... Basically release a Be Here Now... Naked type record. Because if you think of the way the songs would sound, it would be AMAZING. Take the sorta live sound that came out of this tour and put it on a record, because that was Oasis at their best. It's a shame that Noel hates the album so much, because I LOVE the boots from the tour following BHN's release. Be Here Now is one of the best live songs they've ever written. I wouldn't say that Be Here Now is an underrated record, it's got a reputation for being over-produced, and it's justified. I would say that the band messed it up just a bit, but it's a solid record that's good to listen to once in a while, just not as often as other Oasis albums... Shut up, BHN good, BHN very good. Keep yer hands off it. ;D |
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Post by flashbax812 on Apr 24, 2005 1:27:54 GMT -5
Be Here Now is great!!
Yeah a few go on for a long time but for me I have days when It's Gettin Better Man just feels perfect.
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Post by 10 - Nick McCabe on Apr 24, 2005 2:41:06 GMT -5
Great album, 3 classics songs, d´ u know what i mean ?, stand by me and don´t go away...
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Post by StepOut on Apr 24, 2005 2:52:45 GMT -5
Definitely a good album
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Post by caro on Apr 24, 2005 3:43:27 GMT -5
once more a debate about be here now... i've discovered oasis through be here now...this album will always be special for me... ;D when i got it in 1997 i was just listening to it all the time and loved every song on it... i loved the crazyness of the lyrics and all the nonsenses in magic pie...the heavy sound (DYKWIM, My Big Mouth...), the emotion of dont go away and stand by me...and the never ending AATW...loved the first lines of be here now... it really pisses me off when noel says BHN is a shit album with weak songs...if it wasn't good i wont be here today  |
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Post by cevb on Apr 24, 2005 3:59:32 GMT -5
once more a debate about be here now... i've discovered oasis through be here now...this album will always be special for me... ;D when i got it in 1997 i was just listening to it all the time and loved every song on it... i loved the crazyness of the lyrics and all the nonsenses in magic pie...the heavy sound (DYKWIM, My Big Mouth...), the emotion of dont go away and stand by me...and the never ending AATW...loved the first lines of be here now... it really pisses me off when noel says BHN is a shit album with weak songs...if it wasn't good i wont be here today yup. ;D That is pretty much what I think. Every line you just wrote, is exactly what I would have said |
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Post by caro on Apr 24, 2005 4:01:09 GMT -5
yup. ;D That is pretty much what I think. Every line you just wrote, is exactly what I would have said great ;D welcome to the club |
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Post by IndianSummer on Apr 24, 2005 6:21:08 GMT -5
Be Here Now is good album, not bad at all.
The problem of Be Here Now is the same as SOTSOG.
Some songs on it aren't reaching the Oasis standard.
But as a whole it is a better album then SOTSOG.
Fade In Out and Don't Go Away are my favourites of that album.
The Girl In The Dirty Shirt, I Hope I Think....,It's Getting Better Man etc. are very weak.
Just like Where Did It All Go Wrong and I Can See A Liar on the SOTSOG albums.
Replace those songs with great B-sides from both periods and you'll have a superd album.
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Post by Dominic on Apr 24, 2005 6:23:31 GMT -5
i think it deserved the 9/10 it got by the NME when it first came out
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Post by KingMonkey on Apr 24, 2005 6:26:45 GMT -5
Be here Now was the first Oasis album i bought, so i love it just for getting me into them. But really there's not any bad tracks on it, they're just long and overdone, i can't think of one i would skip, which is unlike the other albums.
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Post by monkey man on Apr 24, 2005 6:35:05 GMT -5
D'yer Know What I Mean - mega
Magic Pie - mega
Fade In/Out - mega
all the rest are boring and soulless I think. Except for All Around The World which suffers from being too long. Everything is too long, too overproduced. The words aren't very good, and too many needless guitar solo's.
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Post by KingMonkey on Apr 24, 2005 6:36:57 GMT -5
To say be here now is overproduced is like saying the sun's hot. It's not exactly the most understated of albums.
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Post by davetherave on Apr 24, 2005 6:40:54 GMT -5
Be Here Now is a truly great album but from a commercial point of view it is sh*t because noone wants to listen to 7 and a half minute songs and of course there's also the fact that there wasn't as many obvious singles on it, Noel said he found it hard thinking of what to put out next.
It's a brill record but you're just plain daft if you expect everyone to think so.
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Post by soquester on Apr 24, 2005 10:36:30 GMT -5
Shut up, BHN good, BHN very good. Keep yer hands off it. ;D Check the first sentence there dude... I LIKE the album. I just think it would be better if it were stripped back a bit... |
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