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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2005 8:26:50 GMT -5
i was watching the documentry "live forever"(still laughing my ass off) and i forgot that the lp dropped a couple of days after her death... and it got me wonderin if maybe that was the main reason it wasnt well received ...i mean the nation was in mourning and here comes a lp with psycedellia and long coke fueled tunes and cant help but thinh k that alot of people panned cause of the mood of the nation...i was just driving for like 2 hours and put it on strait thru and except for some tunes being a little long i think the lp rocked(as i always did)..there are over half dozen real good tunes and if that lp wasnt released then and say it was gonna be releases now as the 6th lp and we heard stand by me, dont go away, dykwim,ect ect i think people would say its a fuckin great lp...am i wrong
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Post by rkidfan001 on Feb 19, 2005 9:10:47 GMT -5
it wasn't well received because it was uninspired and bloated
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Post by Dominic on Feb 19, 2005 9:48:35 GMT -5
it came out before her death, she died right at the end of augest and was beiried on the 6th of september , day before my birthday , some people recon that the single of the drugs dont work by the verve sold alot more as it was like a moarning anthem for the young
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Post by Eggy on Feb 19, 2005 9:51:33 GMT -5
the theory in the documentry sounds pretty good, but things like this simply cant be told. Its only for us to guess
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Post by flashbax812 on Feb 19, 2005 11:13:06 GMT -5
bloated maybe- but not uninspired. I really feel that BHN has some great songs on it.
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Post by novascotialad on Feb 19, 2005 11:26:06 GMT -5
lest just say if live forever came out around that time, look out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2005 11:55:35 GMT -5
it wasn't well received because it was uninspired and bloated bit harsh i think
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2005 11:58:17 GMT -5
it came out before her death, she died right at the end of augest and was beiried on the 6th of september /quote] i thought so...thanx dom.....anyway i think if that lp dropped on may 19 2005..it would be well recieved...jmo
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2005 11:59:33 GMT -5
cant argue with that eggy
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Post by mytwocents on Feb 19, 2005 12:12:46 GMT -5
I think that the two problems of BHN for a lot of people are that the songs are too much longer and that the sound is a little confused because it's so produced. To me is a great disk, and I bet that a lot of the genius in the rock business now would have given a leg to write a record half-good. However I tried to put it as mp3 into my ipod and it took all the 20GB. Yesterday I put it into my stereo and I forgot the stereo on, I came back home today and there was a guy still singing LALALALALALALALALA I don't know what I know... Just joking ;D
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Post by caro on Feb 19, 2005 14:04:49 GMT -5
However I tried to put it as mp3 into my ipod and it took all the 20GB. Yesterday I put it into my stereo and I forgot the stereo on, I came back home today and there was a guy still singing LALALALALALALALALA I don't know what I know... Just joking ;D very funny ;D
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Post by iamthewalrus on Feb 19, 2005 20:54:11 GMT -5
BHN is a class record imo...i honestly dont get why most people dont like it.
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Post by thepicturesgeneration on Feb 19, 2005 21:16:32 GMT -5
Non-oasis fans couldn't relate to alot of the songs as much as morning glory. For instance, my friends dig wonderwall, roll with it, she's electric, but think that magic pie, and all around the world are shit. Also, all around the world's reprise is pretty much pointless and bloated. I think that alot of the B-sides from this period are great and liam's voice was good too, and had they put some of the more rocking bsides on the album (Stay Young, Sister Lover, etc..) it would have been a more "pop" friendly album. Songs are too long as well.
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Post by nyr401994 on Feb 19, 2005 21:33:52 GMT -5
how about this people, who gives a shit? it was 1997, let it go- both diana's death and bhn. move on.
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Post by Dominic on Feb 20, 2005 7:25:55 GMT -5
loads of people , especally girls , love stand by me , one of oasis biggest cross board hits
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2005 10:58:02 GMT -5
how about this people, who gives a shit? it was 1997, let it go- both diana's death and bhn. move on. I give a shit...ans since this is a OASIS FORUM i wanted to as peoples opinion that i respect as fans ...i am movin on THAT DOESENT MEAN I CANT LOOK BACK andf question why a good lp was slagged off
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2005 11:47:51 GMT -5
no disrespect intended NYR IT WAS THE stellas from last night ...that lp is a sore spot 4 me
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Post by globe on Feb 20, 2005 11:51:07 GMT -5
I give a shit...ans since this is a OASIS FORUM i wanted to as peoples opinion that i respect as fans ...i am movin on THAT DOESENT MEAN I CANT LOOK BACK andf question why a good lp was slagged off It really dont think is has anything to do with Diana dying. You think the average Oasis fan or music fan in general gives a monkeys about the Royal Family Kalas? After Morning Glory / Knebworth and the whole way the band became such a huge sucess, everyone expected BHN to be the bands crowning glory - their very own Sgt Pepper. And when it was first released it was given great reviews. The NME gave it 8/10 for example. Then after a few weeks, everyone realised it wasnt exactly the greatest album off all time and it recieved a major backlash. Also, the British press, who are the biggest bunch of wank stains you could ever have the miss-fortune to know, had decided 'Britpop' wasnt cool anymore and decided it was time for a new musical trend. So yeah, BHN isnt as bad as the press it is given, especially by Noel ;D, but it it was also a bit of a letdown at the time because of the hype which surrounded its release. That doesnt mean there are no good tunes on there. of course there are, its Oasis for fuck sake! But there is no hiding from the fact its way over-produced and very has a very bloated sound.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2005 12:01:06 GMT -5
It really dont think is has anything to do with Diana dying. You think the average Oasis fan or music fan in general gives a monkeys about the Royal Family Kalas? no i dont globe...not at all..in my original post i wrote that I was watching the LIVE FOREVER DOCUMENTRY and they sort of blamed her death for the reason the lp was not well received (partially ) I dont agree with it but since i only travel over for gigs i did not no the mood of the uk when both events took place and was curious if it was true or not.... think u summed it up though thanx...although i dont agree your opinion on the lp seems to be the majority opinion
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Post by globe on Feb 20, 2005 12:54:14 GMT -5
no i dont globe...not at all..in my original post i wrote that I was watching the LIVE FOREVER DOCUMENTRY and they sort of blamed her death for the reason the lp was not well received (partially ) I dont agree with it but since i only travel over for gigs i did not no the mood of the uk when both events took place and was curious if it was true or not.... think u summed it up though thanx...although i dont agree your opinion on the lp seems to be the majority opinion Hey no problem Kalas, I want being critical or anything when I asked that question.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2005 13:22:16 GMT -5
Hey no problem Kalas, I want being critical or anything when I asked that question. no problem mate..didnt take it as critisism ...your response was well taken ...thanx for the post it did make sense
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2005 21:10:10 GMT -5
no disrespect intended NYR THERE IS NOW
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Post by StepOut on Feb 20, 2005 22:42:03 GMT -5
globeafc, I totally agree with you, Be Here Now is really bloated. It is over produced in some parts of the album, but in other parts it's not all that bad, and of course can't deny the fact that there are some jems on that album.
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Post by nyr401994 on Feb 21, 2005 0:01:18 GMT -5
no disrespect intended NYR IT WAS THE stellas from last night ...that lp is a sore spot 4 me me too. i just think that the person on the interview who put a connection between bhn and diana's death has WAY too much time on their hands and should get a life.
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Post by effinpeaz on Feb 21, 2005 12:24:34 GMT -5
i read something off of oa515.com. they had an article from Q magazine entitled "Be Here Now and the fall of Creation Records."
anyway, i don't recall seeing anything about princess di in it, but i can understand how BHN with all its excess wouldn't fare too well considering those circumstances.
personally, i do think it was overproduced and perhaps a bit over the top. i didn't like it when i first got it in '97, but when i got it again like, a year or two ago, i fell in love with it, more so than WTSMG. it's my fave oasis record. but yeah.
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