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Post by halfman on Jan 7, 2005 7:55:11 GMT -5
Booooo! I thought we would actually find something out today. We all new the date of the release roughly. He didn't mention the name of the single or the album. All we found out was the names of 2 songs. One which is liams which probably sucks anyway. He also said there was an obvious single which he sings on and then he said there are no stand out singles, which is it! Frustrated Oasis fan  |
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Post by drunken guitar pop on Jan 7, 2005 8:39:04 GMT -5
Don't be so huffy.
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Post by halfman on Jan 7, 2005 8:51:24 GMT -5
Thats what happens when you have to wait 3 years for an album.
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Post by dixonhill on Jan 7, 2005 8:52:34 GMT -5
name of two songs? i only heard the one.
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Post by nowaysis on Jan 7, 2005 8:53:32 GMT -5
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Post by themanwithnoname on Jan 7, 2005 10:53:06 GMT -5
I hate to say it (because God knows I adore Oasis) but Noel's comments make me very worried: "If I had to pick one it would be ’The Importance of Being Idle’," he revealed. "That sounds a bit like The Kinks, a bit like The La's, a bit Liverpudlian. I think it's got the best lyrics. I'm getting quite fed up with London at the minute, there's one song called ’Part Of The Queue’ which is about living in London and how you always seem to be queuing up for things in that city and how it almost … when I moved to London about 12 years ago it blew me away but the novelty has worn off. It's become so overcrowded over the last three or four years that we're upping sticks and moving." Noel said: "The most interesting thing will be when you hear Liam's songs. They are very, very good. A song called ’Guess God Thinks I'm Able’. The end 30 seconds will blow you away. It's great." Songs about queueing up in London??? What the fuck happened to songs about living forever!!! God knows I want to be proved wrong but the song titles just sound fucking awful - The Importance of Being Idle?? Guess God Thinks I'm Able?? Part of The Queue?  ? Also, he says the "last 30 seconds" of Liam's song will blow us away - does that mean the rest of it won't? (and it'll probably be another "Lennon-esque" epic that goes on for eight minutes). After Heathen Chemistry had stuff like SCYHO, Little By Little and Hindu Times on it I thought: "At last, they're getting back to the stuff they are great at". But the new song titles worry me that they've now scrapped a return to that sort of classic anthem, especially when I hear that Andy's the only one writing stuff that sounds like Oasis. Thank God for Andy is all I can say. Please people, tell me I'm worrying for no reason... |
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Post by halfman on Jan 7, 2005 10:59:00 GMT -5
I read ya mate, I have the same concerns. I think as an Oasis fan that it is time for a classic album like the old days. The titles worry me as well. And Jo Whiley said it sounds like they are doing the album for themselves as opposed to the fans. Plus the Bob Dylan stuff freaks me out.
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Post by daysleeper on Jan 7, 2005 11:08:18 GMT -5
And Jo Whiley said it sounds like they are doing the album for themselves as opposed to the fans. erm They are musicians - thats what they're supposed to do. They create something, express themselves, then they put a record out and if you like it and can relate to it then great. If not - put Definitely Maybe back on... I cant understand all of this hysteria! all these words like 'frustrated' and 'worried' - you guys have just heard a few titles and a couple of noel soundbites! Relax. Wait till the songs come out. and dont expect another Def Maybe or WTSMG coz you arent gonna get it! those days are gone I agree with one opinion - Part of The Queue sounds shit. But who knows what it will be like really? And i cant believe how much you're pre-judging this new Liam song! WTF?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2005 11:12:19 GMT -5
I read ya mate, I have the same concerns. I think as an Oasis fan that it is time for a classic album like the old days. The titles worry me as well. And Jo Whiley said it sounds like they are doing the album for themselves as opposed to the fans. Plus the Bob Dylan stuff freaks me out. i hear ya man,,, but its so hard to write stuff like the old days when your now minted and in your mid 30s i would love for all there lps to be like the first 2 but is almost impossible. sometimes change is hard to take but in the end works out better than ever dont 4get when the beatles grew there hair out and stopped writing songs like "she loves you" and premiered "all you need is love" they drastically changed there writing and title styles and still wrote classic tunes ive read interviews with lennon where he said that after he really listened to dylan he started to write more meaningful tunes and they turned out to be classics much more revered than the "i wanna hold your hand" days guess what im saying is keep the faith mate this album might sound different but in the end it hopefully will be 4 the best just like fab4  |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Jan 7, 2005 11:21:41 GMT -5
I just thought it was a weird thing to say:
"the last 30 seconds will blow you away"
It's like saying - I've painted this huge picture and the bottom left hand corner of it is amazing.
As far as Liam's songs go, I think we, the fans, split into two camps on this one.
Some of us think they are the best thing since sliced bread and the rest reckon they are often second-rate Lennon rip offs.
All I'm saying is that it was Noel's amazing songs that got us all into Oasis in the first place and when he starts writing songs about queues it concerns me a little.
Hopefully Kalas is right and the album will be great - it's just that they have tried to change tack in the past and it hasn't really been that successful.
It's not like SOTSOG was Revolver or anything, let alone Sergeant Pepper's.
One upshot of all this is I'm perilously close to going back on my vow not to download anything before the album's out because I'm just so damned curious!
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Post by SlideAway on Jan 7, 2005 11:56:30 GMT -5
On one hand I think it would be good for Oasis to try some new sounds. Oasis is never going to be Radiohead or some band that's redefining rock and roll - they'll always be traditional rock. But there are still different avenues to be explored in trad rock besides anthemic rock. As much as I enjoyed Heathen Chemistry I do think it suffers somewhat b/c it's clear they're trying to relive past glories. If they try to redo Definitely Maybe or MG anything new will just pale in comparison to the old. So I'm glad they're exploring new angles.
In particular, I find it interesting that Noel says a lot is Bob-Dylan-esque. I once tried to consider other styles Oasis could try out and I fingered two different movements they could really go with: One, a very fast raw punk-sound (but they're probably too old for that - they should have gone with that for BHN), the other a lighter, more acoustic-based sound.
At the same time, I do admit I'm somewhat worried. It's possible the new sound could be fantastic, but it's also possible that the end result will just be... boring. And a dull album would virtually spell an end to Oasis. I really hope this is a good album, b/c otherwise I fear that Oasis will become the new Rolling Stones - fantastic at their peak but now a pale imitation of their former selves.
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Post by Dangooner on Jan 7, 2005 12:02:23 GMT -5
I'm going to wait until I actually hear what the songs sound like before I say anything.
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Post by Dangooner on Jan 7, 2005 12:03:11 GMT -5
Saying that, I can see and understand where people are coming from on this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2005 12:14:45 GMT -5
Hopefully Kalas is right and the album will be great - it's just that they have tried to change tack in the past and it hasn't really been that successful. It's not like SOTSOG was Revolver or anything, let alone Sergeant Pepper's. i hope i am right 2 believe me,,at the end of the day OASIS will always be defined by there first 2 mega lps i just cant see NOEL OR LIAM writing those kinda tunes now that they are minted and livin posh,you are right sotsog was no revolver but lets hope the new stuff will be different but brilliant nonetheless,,part me is happy that they are writing different cause if it flys its gonna reinvent OASIS and keep them interested for the years 2 come ,,think about it if NOEL feels they cant get better with age and he is no longer able to write tunes like"live forever" then he might not want to continue\so lets keep our fingers crossed that this is the start of some good years to come  |
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Post by halfman on Jan 7, 2005 12:28:57 GMT -5
I am a HUGE Oasis fan. I became a fan with Def Maybe. That is with Noels songs. Liam's song are not up to par, in my opinion.
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Post by dixonhill on Jan 7, 2005 12:36:31 GMT -5
sigh. the press bash oasis enough as it is, we don't need fans of oasis to start bashing them too.
and re: part of the queue. it won't be about queuing up in London. as a song writer, Noel would have took that idea and made it into something else completely. part of the queue is just base of reference.
and to say Liam's songs are no good is just madness. songbird was the second best song on HC.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Jan 7, 2005 12:39:21 GMT -5
and re: part of the queue. it won't be about queuing up in London. as a song writer, Noel would have took that idea and made it into something else completely. part of the queue is just base of reference. Sorry, didn't know you had heard it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2005 12:40:44 GMT -5
I am a HUGE Oasis fan. I became a fan with Def Maybe. That is with Noels songs. Liam's song are not up to par, in my opinion. [/quote thats my point though,DM IS THE BEST LP EVER IN MY OPINION but nobody not even NOEL can write the same type of tunes in his mid 30s that he did when he was broke and carefree. so lets hope the "new noel" will be as brilliant in a different way ;D as for LIAMS writing its in its early stages so lets hope it just keeps gettin stronger he started late in life i am hopeful though being in my 30s i gotta be i can relate to the chief gettin old sucks  but its better than a dirt nap  |
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Post by dixonhill on Jan 7, 2005 12:42:07 GMT -5
and re: part of the queue. it won't be about queuing up in London. as a song writer, Noel would have took that idea and made it into something else completely. part of the queue is just base of reference. Sorry, didn't know you had heard it. didn't know you had!! |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Jan 7, 2005 13:03:25 GMT -5
Touche |
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Post by dixonhill on Jan 7, 2005 13:04:46 GMT -5
Touche |
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jan 7, 2005 13:15:14 GMT -5
I think you guys are being a little tough on it.... I really trust when the chief says those gonna be good songs... and as for "Guess God Thinks I'm Able", I totally understand what he meant, for me the best part of some songs, such as Slide Away, Born On A Different Cloud or Better Man are nearst to the end, which doesn't mean the rest is pure crap... specially Slide Away....
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Post by rob on Jan 7, 2005 14:09:07 GMT -5
i was hoping he'd just say its a normal streight forward oasis record with the odd ballad. saying that andy has wrote the most oasis sounding songs worries me slightly. neway hopefully it will be the dogs bollocks whatever style theve adopted.
cant wait
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Post by Stanislaw on Jan 7, 2005 18:14:10 GMT -5
personally, I dont want another heathen chemistry, full of shit like force of nature and hung in a bad place...
I think the best oasis songs since 2000 have been the less obvious ones like one way road, lets all make believe, idlers dream or songbird
these new song titles do sound a bit crap but whatever, ill be more interested to hear them than if this was another definitely maybe ripoff with the word shining appearing like fifteen fucking times.
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Post by globe on Jan 7, 2005 18:37:21 GMT -5
What are people analysing this stuff like song titles etc for? It's an Oasis record for fuck sake, you know what its gonna sound like no matter what Noel or anyone else is saying about it for that matter. Its just gonna be just a rock n roll record, nothing more, nothing less.
One which will sound fucking ace when its played live just like all the others. Now stop whinging and just buy the fucker when it comes out!
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