rkid256
Oasis Roadie
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Post by rkid256 on Oct 22, 2003 10:00:05 GMT -5
Does anyone know what our friend Tony McCarroll is up to these days? I spotted someone not too unlike him selling the Big Issue in Manchester the other day... I wonder  |
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Post by webm@ster on Oct 22, 2003 11:57:02 GMT -5
Does anyone know what our friend Tony McCarroll is up to these days? I spotted someone not too unlike him selling the Big Issue in Manchester the other day... I wonder Last time he made headlines was when he tried sueing the band and lost in court... it's somewhere on the forum and the news room.... |
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Post by maketradefair on Oct 22, 2003 13:24:15 GMT -5
i thought i saw him 6 years ago outside kings cross tube station. i was sure it was him.
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Oct 22, 2003 14:29:38 GMT -5
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Post by maketradefair on Oct 25, 2003 12:50:16 GMT -5
he was hardly a rock n roll drummer considering he wasnt in the band at that point, and i wouldnt even call him a drummer!
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Oct 25, 2003 13:09:08 GMT -5
yeah you're right.. let's call him poodle
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Post by thebeerbaron1 on Oct 26, 2003 17:21:35 GMT -5
i liked his drumming on "supersonic"
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Post by kandaii on Oct 28, 2003 2:31:58 GMT -5
I always thought he looked weird drumming... ahh well
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Post by mîcCỵOrRIe on Oct 31, 2003 1:04:36 GMT -5
myn n kandi's friend sharna looks good playin da drums - boxes actually - she has her hair flying around everywhere!!!! hehehe
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Post by maketradefair on Oct 31, 2003 8:03:25 GMT -5
i no for fact that noel played virtually all the drums on DM. by the sounds of it tony played live forever and supersonic, and few others that dont spring to mind immeadiatly.
but noel played most of them...
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Post by daysleeper on Oct 31, 2003 10:36:21 GMT -5
I always thought he looked weird drumming... ahh well that was the best thing about him! watching his head bob up and down as he played while i'm not going to make any particular comment on his drumming ability, i do think this whole anti-tony McCarroll feeling would never have happened had he left the band amicably like Guigsy and Bonehead. lets be honest, guigsy and bonehead are no more or less talented than McCarroll - yet they escape all this abuse, just because noel never insulted them like he did McCarroll maketradefair - i've never heard that said before about the drumming on DM - where did you hear that? anyone else confirm or deny that? |
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Oct 31, 2003 13:06:43 GMT -5
actually i've heard bout that be4 but it seems that it's not necessarily true.. yet there are reports that tony hat problems with drumming some DM tracks initially
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Post by thebeerbaron1 on Oct 31, 2003 14:22:16 GMT -5
i loved his drumming on the early live gigs.
the extended intro into supersonic was classic on some of those live gigs.
supersonic just sounds wierd live these days. just has'nt got the same impact.
still, nothing ever stays the same.
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Post by Columbia on Oct 31, 2003 14:24:20 GMT -5
ive heard on many ocasions that when they got into the studio for the first time that they quickly learn't that macarrol's drumming wasnt up 2 scratch for a record. Apparently noel drums on Bring it on down and columbia and a couple of others. I Think the real reason they got rid of mcarol was because the demand for the tickets in england espescailly was going up quickly and they thought that mcarrols drumming wouldnt be very suitable for big arena gigs. That and also apparently him and Liam got in a fight in france i think it was and after that they got rid of him, no idea what the fight was about though. Some of mcarols drumming was pretty decent though the drumming on headshrinker is really good, wonder if he did actually drum on it.
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Post by thebeerbaron1 on Oct 31, 2003 20:17:11 GMT -5
he does a pretty good impersonation of a drummer on the "live by the sea" video.
on the clash's first album as rumour would have it mick jones played all of joe strummers bits.
i dont believe that.
on the pistols "bollocks" steve jones played all of the bass line for sid vicious!
i totally believe that!
great british rock n roll bands.
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Post by daysleeper on Oct 31, 2003 20:42:20 GMT -5
yeah Live By the Sea is what i'll judge him on - i haven't seen that gig for a while but i don't remember thinking anything bad about the drumming. and he plays the entire of DM
David Gilmour used to play some of Roger Waters' bass parts in Pink Floyd. He can be forgiven for a lack of technical musical talent though - considering that he's one of the greatest lyricists ever!
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Post by mape on Oct 31, 2003 22:12:01 GMT -5
i don't know much about drumming so i can't really say how good or bad he was.
but the i think the main reason for the bitterness is because of the way he left the band. i'm sure if he were still here we wouldn't be complaining.
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Nov 1, 2003 8:39:08 GMT -5
he wasn't that bad but also very limited as far as his (live-)skills are concerned.
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Post by thebeerbaron1 on Nov 1, 2003 16:18:32 GMT -5
yeah, but it does'nt matter about limatations at the end of the day!
we have a classic rock n roll recording.
its not about musos sitting around in a room discussing which drumstick is the best to use on a lama skin drumskin or what precious metal pickup screws should be made out of.
that album is raw unadulterated rock n roll!!!
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Nov 1, 2003 16:32:12 GMT -5
if you hadn't the chiefs songwriting it wouldnt be any good.
every good album needs proper instrumentation and that is what DM lacks in the end. it could have been even more massive and successful if A) a real percussionist worked on the boomboom and B) a halfway talented or rather experienced producer underlined the power of the record..
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Post by Columbia on Nov 2, 2003 7:52:16 GMT -5
if you hadn't the chiefs songwriting it wouldnt be any good. every good album needs proper instrumentation and that is what DM lacks in the end. it could have been even more massive and successful if A) a real percussionist worked on the boomboom and B) a halfway talented or rather experienced producer underlined the power of the record.. Na i wouldnt change a thing about definitely maybe. Its the best album oasis have ever made it flows right from the start it has a purpose do you know what i mean? Its so much more than just 11 tracks. It gives you a detailed idea of what life was like in Britain, certainly for them and a lot of over young people at the time. Obviously if alan white had drummed on it, it would be better musically, but i think that one thing that got the album noticed was how real it was. Like these were real people in a real band and it didnt matter that they wern't fantastic musicains all that was they had something to say and if people didnt like it they could fuck off. That's what makes it true Rock "n" Roll album for me the rawness of it. |
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Nov 2, 2003 8:30:57 GMT -5
you're right of course.. DM conveys a certain feeling that britain needed so much those days. despite the rawness i think DM or i should say the songs themselves deserve much more attention and success than they've received by now. and i blame tony mcc a lot for his blurrish technique - percussion is probably the most important part in music besides the singing/vocals - that denied DM more success in other markets. believe me it just would have been so much better or just bigger with a different drummer.. but that's history, the results are still acceptable though  |
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Post by Columbia on Nov 2, 2003 13:52:51 GMT -5
you're right of course.. DM conveys a certain feeling that britain needed so much those days. despite the rawness i think DM or i should say the songs themselves deserve much more attention and success than they've received by now. and i blame tony mcc a lot for his blurrish technique - percussion is probably the most important part in music besides the singing/vocals - that denied DM more success in other markets. believe me it just would have been so much better or just bigger with a different drummer.. but that's history, the results are still acceptable though Yeh i agree. DM didn't get enough credit. And i suppose u r right i saying it would have been more succesfull had a better percussionist played on it. I suppose that's evident from (wts) mg which wasnt as good for the songs that were on it but had better drumming on. And was much more succesfull. I still dont think i would change it though because of the reasons i gave before. The Success of their albums doesnt really bother me. |
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Post by thebeerbaron1 on Nov 2, 2003 16:21:12 GMT -5
chocolate starfish, see when liam screams at noel "it dont matter if it's out of tune" before going in to "walrus" thats what rock n roll is about.
i think the album is perfect in its rawness. i wouldnt change a thing about it and it is my favourite oasis album, only thing being the exclusion of "whatever"
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Post by mape on Nov 2, 2003 20:52:23 GMT -5
yeah, i wonder what whatever would have done to that album. just would be that much closer to perfection.
at first i thought WTSMG was my fave album, but i guess once i came to my senses all these years later, i realized DM is that much better. its so jagged but comes together like a puzzle.
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