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Post by guigsysEstring on Feb 27, 2016 22:51:55 GMT -5
The verses are absolutely ace, but I think the chorus lets it down. Don't like it when Noel gets too shouty. This^. Carry Us All, Full On and Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is don't sound like they are finished. That those songs were not properly completed for the album surprised me at the time and puzzled me afterwards for a while. Oasis were under no record company pressure regarding deadlines due to the closure of Creation Records and the transfer of recordings to their own label, albeit still contracted to Sony Music, but with a lapse in deadlines and promotion targets due to the record company upheaval at the time. In an alternative scenario when the Chateau de la Colle Noire sessions ended abruptly with Bonehead then Guigsy departing the band should have reconvened at Wheeler End to not only finish the recordings laid down in France, but also flesh out and record those songs that were clearly not finished. Three months or so would be a reasonable time for such a project, which would also have given ample opportunity to hire replacement band members, as well as completing the best possible album they could for that period. They could also still have made the release of the lead single and album in early 2000 with this time frame. An MTV interview with Noel in 2000 sheds a bit of light as to where his and the band's heads were at that time though- MTV 2000 In it he states in reference to Liam's insistence that Little James sound like The Beatles that "I wouldn't have anybody interfere with one of my songs. If anybody was giving me advice on how one of my songs should sound, I wouldn't take it. Not in the slightest. Liam's the same because he's a Gallagher, you know. We just don't tend to listen to advice. We're good at giving it, but we're just not very good at listening to it." That says to me that even if anyone in management or production had tried at that point to get a better record out of the band it probably wouldn't have worked as they had gone into almost a siege mentality, and were going purely on their own decisions without outside opinion. Interestingly Noel also stated in the same interview that he felt SOTSOG was the second Oasis album as he didn't like WTSMG? and BHN only had three good songs on it (three more than he publicly rates these days though)- Apparently pharmaceutical drugs CAN be as damaging as controlled substances going on that evidence  |
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Post by seamywham on Feb 28, 2016 5:11:22 GMT -5
The verses are absolutely ace, but I think the chorus lets it down. Don't like it when Noel gets too shouty. This^. Carry Us All, Full On and Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is don't sound like they are finished. I'm the opposite funnily enough! I love the whole song but it's the chorus that made me love it. Especially how he sings it after the solo. Out of those three Carry Us All is the most finished imo, especially lyrically. Full On and PYMWYMI have the same verse repeated twice! I think Noel admitted his laziness in regards to PYMWYMI. |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Mar 29, 2016 15:19:46 GMT -5
It's not really 'Not Talked About' as it was a single, but I love Who Feels Love at the moment
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2016 16:54:55 GMT -5
At the moment, I'm in a "Boy with The Blues" mood. I actually believe it's Liam finest song along Songbird and Evil Eye.
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Post by kazookid on Apr 22, 2016 3:32:00 GMT -5
i love fade away (warchild version) it's got Liam on backing vocals, which i find interesting. Liam hardly sang backing vocals on a Noel sung track.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 5:01:57 GMT -5
i love fade away (warchild version) it's got Liam on backing vocals, which i find interesting. Liam hardly sang backing vocals on a Noel sung track. And when he did, it was amazing (D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman, for instance). |
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Post by kazookid on Apr 22, 2016 7:04:37 GMT -5
i love fade away (warchild version) it's got Liam on backing vocals, which i find interesting. Liam hardly sang backing vocals on a Noel sung track. And when he did, it was amazing (D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman, for instance). for sure! also liked it when Liam sang backing vocals to himself. (Rockin' Chair) |
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Post by MacaRonic on May 15, 2016 15:08:14 GMT -5
And when he did, it was amazing (D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman, for instance). for sure! also liked it when Liam sang backing vocals to himself. (Rockin' Chair) 'Columbia' also has Liam on backing vocals. |
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Post by sufuking perbley on Jun 24, 2016 15:20:19 GMT -5
I like that one, what's it called, Shitelife or something.  |
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Post by meanstreak on Jul 1, 2016 10:32:39 GMT -5
I Will Believe has always been a favorite
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 19:56:02 GMT -5
I still can't believe how underrated Talk Tonight is on here. It's one of Noel's finest, ever, hands down.
He probably hasn't written a song as good than that one since ... 1998.
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Post by mauritzf on Jul 4, 2016 18:43:12 GMT -5
I think that I Can See a Liar is one of their worst Songsš
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Post by mauritzf on Jul 4, 2016 18:45:59 GMT -5
Bring it on down
The girl in the dirty shirt
Up in the sky
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Post by Beadyās Here Now on Jul 20, 2016 22:42:43 GMT -5
I think that I Can See a Liar is one of their worst Songsš I actually don't mind it. It's the least of our worries from PWMWYMI and LJ. ICSAL has that Step Out vibe, although not nearly as good. |
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Post by themightyeye on Aug 20, 2016 0:00:53 GMT -5
Underneath the sky, Columbia, She is Love, keep the dream alive, shout it out loud,
Fuck I can go on forever with these guys.
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Post by supersonicdrain on Aug 21, 2016 20:30:41 GMT -5
Cloudburst is one of my favorite tunes, I love the drums on that one and Liam's voice with Noel's guitar bits is incredible,the live version is just as good.
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Post by World71R on Aug 21, 2016 23:58:19 GMT -5
To Be Where There's Life. I know The Escapist posted about his love for that song over on the Unpopular Oasis Opinions, but it doesn't really get talked about much and it's a shame since it's one of the most experimental songs they ever did. |
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Post by peyoteamiga on Sept 11, 2016 5:57:04 GMT -5
Gas Panic
Where did it all go wrong (including the awesome demo)
Let's all make believe
Fade In-out
Waiting for the rapture
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Post by arthurmorgan on Sept 11, 2016 6:18:22 GMT -5
I recently started to dig Just Getting Older. It's not album material but it's a very nice song
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 7:43:35 GMT -5
For me it's gotta be 'Boy With The Blues'
Should have ended 'Dig Out Your Soul' with this one.
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Post by steve020409 on Sept 18, 2016 18:51:05 GMT -5
Who put the weight of the world is certainly a song that no one talks about.
Carry us all is also great. Underneath the sky is the only Oasis song that makes me want to dance.
You might already know Idler's dream, Stay young, and Let's all make believe.
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Post by albarncoxon on Sept 19, 2016 15:57:21 GMT -5
IĀ“ve always love Flashbax. Is a very nice song that no one seems to remember. Full On is another one. Great dark song, very different to the classic OasisĀ“s sound.
And all of the NoelĀ“s demos for SOTSOG... They are all great.
Someone mentioned I Hope, I Think, I Know as the worst Oasis song... Well, is not. Especially after listening The Meaning of Soul, Ain't Got Nothing, Hey Now, ItĀ“s Better People... Those are horrible. I Hope I Think I Know is a very good song. ItĀ“s a shame that they never played it live.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2016 16:09:52 GMT -5
IĀ“ve always love Flashbax. Is a very nice song that no one seems to remember. Full On is another one. Great dark song, very different to the classic OasisĀ“s sound. And all of the NoelĀ“s demos for SOTSOG... They are all great. Someone mentioned I Hope, I Think, I Know as the worst Oasis song... Well, is not. Especially after listening The Meaning of Soul, Ain't Got Nothing, Hey Now, ItĀ“s Better People... Those are horrible. I Hope I Think I Know is a very good song. ItĀ“s a shame that they never played it live. Agree about IH,IT,IK but disagree about Hey Now and It's Better People. Sure they're not Noel's best songs ever but they don't deserve to be linked with TMOS and AGN. I LOVE the last minute of It's Better People, with these little arpeggios and those strings in the back of the mix. So good. There is that mix between joyce and melancholy that made me fell in love with that band. |
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Post by albarncoxon on Sept 19, 2016 17:11:30 GMT -5
IĀ“ve always love Flashbax. Is a very nice song that no one seems to remember. Full On is another one. Great dark song, very different to the classic OasisĀ“s sound. And all of the NoelĀ“s demos for SOTSOG... They are all great. Someone mentioned I Hope, I Think, I Know as the worst Oasis song... Well, is not. Especially after listening The Meaning of Soul, Ain't Got Nothing, Hey Now, ItĀ“s Better People... Those are horrible. I Hope I Think I Know is a very good song. ItĀ“s a shame that they never played it live. Agree about IH,IT,IK but disagree about Hey Now and It's Better People. Sure they're not Noel's best songs ever but they don't deserve to be linked with TMOS and AGN. I LOVE the last minute of It's Better People, with these little arpeggios and those strings in the back of the mix. So good. There is that mix between joyce and melancholy that made me fell in love with that band. There are some songs that I didnĀ“t like at first, and took years to like them. I Can See a Liar, Roll it Over, My Big Mouth are some of them. But ItĀ“s Better People seems to get worse with years (to my ears at least) and is because Noel keep writing so many good songs until today. By far, for me, ItĀ“s Better People is his worst song. |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 22, 2016 13:29:21 GMT -5
I really really like Liam's version of 'I Should Have Known Better' AKA the Songbird demo
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