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Post by webm@ster on Jul 30, 2007 8:37:37 GMT -5
I was browsing through some reviews from the Arctic Monkeys weekend show at Old Trafford cricket ground in front of 50000 fans. This one caught my eye, what are your thoughts?
Bland, boring, one track runs into another to the point where you can't tell where one starts and another begins.
Kids, these days will turn up to watch an empty stage, if some PR guy tells them it's fashionable.
Music is dead. Crappy TV "talent" shows have ripped the soul out of music and turned it into gravy train.
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Jul 30, 2007 9:30:55 GMT -5
here's the problem with the monkeys as with most of all those next big NME-sponsored rockbands:
they have all released at least respected debut albums. some of them were actually really good. avant-garde punkrock was refreshing to hear.
but nothing has happened since then. there are hardly any big songs coming from those groups that could have an impact overseas which - whether we like it or not over here - is the benchmark.
what you need is at least a slight change in style. establish a dedicated following within the indie base first then win over the average radio listener .just what oasis did in 95 and what muse did a few years ago. and with a little bit of luck and promotion you make it there.
had the monkeys recorded a more pop oriented 2nd album than i believe they would have been the next big band.
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Post by wankinginthebushes on Jul 30, 2007 9:42:46 GMT -5
Music is dead? What a twat. The current music scene is the best it's been in years. here's the problem with the monkeys as with most of all those next big NME-sponsored rockbands Lets not forget that the Arctic had their huge following before NME jumped on the bandwagon. NME only played on the hype the band already had. had the monkeys recorded a more pop oriented album than with their debut i believe they would have been the next big band. You don't think they are already? |
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Post by Elias on Jul 30, 2007 10:02:02 GMT -5
I was browsing through some reviews from the Arctic Monkeys weekend show at Old Trafford cricket ground in front of 50000 fans. This one caught my eye, what are your thoughts? Bland, boring, one track runs into another to the point where you can't tell where one starts and another begins.
Kids, these days will turn up to watch an empty stage, if some PR guy tells them it's fashionable.
Music is dead. Crappy TV "talent" shows have ripped the soul out of music and turned it into gravy train.So one persons comment out of over 100,000 nulls the gig? There were a hell of a lot of descenting voices after Oasis' Knebworth gigs, nobody seems to bother much about that now. Aye, they might've been playing to over 100,000 people over two nights by now... |
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Jul 30, 2007 10:10:25 GMT -5
youre right with the monkeys being recognized by fans before the press joined in.
IMO it counts for lots of groups like maximo park (incredibly shit!!), electric soft parade (they just released album#3, did ANYbody notice at all?), mando diao, belle & sebastian, kaiser chiefs (i love "ruby" though), athelete etc. etc. though.
are the monkeys making it big already? in the UK apparently so. but not worldwide
i'm not excluding the possibility that they might become big in the future. it might be better for them not to "rush it".
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Post by Elias on Jul 30, 2007 10:22:40 GMT -5
are the monkeys making it big already? in the UK apparently so. but not worldwide i'm not excluding the possibility that they might become big in the future. it might be better for them not to "rush it". I'm not sure The Arctics are the band to be a worldwide thing. They are a quintessentially british band in music, lyrics and personality, in much the same way the likes of The Smiths and The Jam were, which limited those respective bands to only limited success throughout R.O.W. |
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Post by calioasis on Jul 30, 2007 13:41:00 GMT -5
I could see a similar description being made of an Oasis Definitely Maybe gig, and I'm sure someone could find plenty of reviews of some old dude that thought it all sounded the same. and chocolate starfish is dead on. The Monkeys built up the cred on their first album but did not explode like Oasis did on their second. Definitely Maybe was not a hit really here in the US (not huge, anyway) but they built up a LOT of buzz. They cashed in on that buzz with Morning Glory. If they had toured it properly, the album may have sold 10 million. Instead it sold 5.
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Post by caro on Jul 30, 2007 14:37:00 GMT -5
youre right with the monkeys being recognized by fans before the press joined in. IMO it counts for lots of groups like maximo park (incredibly shit!!), electric soft parade (they just released album#3, did ANYbody notice at all?), mando diao, belle & sebastian, kaiser chiefs (i love "ruby" though), athelete etc. etc. though i love ruby too!!! the whole kaise chiefs album is really good i like the AM one but i prefer BY FAR the kaiser chiefs! just what oasis did in 95 and what muse did a few years ago my two fave bands ;D (oasis being slightly above  ) i love your views choco ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2007 15:30:00 GMT -5
What I'm starting to wonder is what's next after all of this?
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Post by wankinginthebushes on Jul 30, 2007 16:02:45 GMT -5
What I'm starting to wonder is what's next after all of this? bit of a strange question that! |
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Post by mod1972 on Jul 30, 2007 16:50:56 GMT -5
2 to 3 years of press love now the backlash will begin we have watched this happen a million times , what a bore the monkeys are a good band , but when you explode out of the gate that fast there is nowhere to go but down , the oasis thing happens once every 20 years they where a revolution when they hit , i dont know i wish them well
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Post by LIVERPUDLIAN on Jul 31, 2007 16:53:30 GMT -5
I went to the Sunday gig and wasn't majorly impressed.
It was a good, solid performance, but Turner doesn't have the stage presence and there wasn't much of a spark.
Having said that, I do have pretty high standards/expectations of big gigs, and I was frozen solid, so meh, they were allright.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2007 17:44:00 GMT -5
if you like them listen if you don't fuck off ;D
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Post by seven29pompeyfc on Aug 2, 2007 11:01:50 GMT -5
maximo park (incredibly shit!!), Seriously, mate WTF?!!? |
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 2, 2014 9:15:54 GMT -5
are the monkeys making it big already? in the UK apparently so. but not worldwide i'm not excluding the possibility that they might become big in the future. it might be better for them not to "rush it". I'm not sure The Arctics are the band to be a worldwide thing. They are a quintessentially british band in music, lyrics and personality, in much the same way the likes of The Smiths and The Jam were, which limited those respective bands to only limited success throughout R.O.W. hm... |
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Post by lahaine on Apr 3, 2014 4:11:31 GMT -5
2 to 3 years of press love now the backlash will begin we have watched this happen a million times , what a bore the monkeys are a good band , but when you explode out of the gate that fast there is nowhere to go but down , the oasis thing happens once every 20 years they where a revolution when they hit , i dont know i wish them well Always awesome to read these things 
They are now playing Arena's in the States, selling tons of records, changed their style. still winning awards, playing big gigs in Uk. 5 number 1 albums in a row. Probably now one of the biggest bands in the world, What 7 years do for a band.
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Post by lahaine on Apr 3, 2014 4:14:57 GMT -5
are the monkeys making it big already? in the UK apparently so. but not worldwide i'm not excluding the possibility that they might become big in the future. it might be better for them not to "rush it". I'm not sure The Arctics are the band to be a worldwide thing. They are a quintessentially british band in music, lyrics and personality, in much the same way the likes of The Smiths and The Jam were, which limited those respective bands to only limited success throughout R.O.W. Playing arenas in the States, number 1 single, biggest selling album to date in the states. Now announced a gig at the Staples Centre in L.A. |
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Post by jaq515 on Apr 3, 2014 5:00:23 GMT -5
I'm not sure The Arctics are the band to be a worldwide thing. They are a quintessentially british band in music, lyrics and personality, in much the same way the likes of The Smiths and The Jam were, which limited those respective bands to only limited success throughout R.O.W. Playing arenas in the States, number 1 single, biggest selling album to date in the states. Now announced a gig at the Staples Centre in L.A. Tbf to the post you're quoting that was wrote 7 years ago. Since then they have actively changed their image / sound etc to appeal to different markets outside of the u.k |
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Post by lahaine on Apr 3, 2014 17:56:29 GMT -5
Playing arenas in the States, number 1 single, biggest selling album to date in the states. Now announced a gig at the Staples Centre in L.A. Tbf to the post you're quoting that was wrote 7 years ago. Since then they have actively changed their image / sound etc to appeal to different markets outside of the u.k To be fair you are right but it's crazy to think how much they've changed. I see why many at the time that post was put up thought they wouldn't go far cause such a British band but many forget Favourite worst Nightmare did make top 10 in the States. Humbug was a brave move and now looking at the huge success of AM, you got to say it's paid off. It prolonged their career. |
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Post by jaq515 on Apr 3, 2014 18:10:22 GMT -5
Tbf to the post you're quoting that was wrote 7 years ago. Since then they have actively changed their image / sound etc to appeal to different markets outside of the u.k To be fair you are right but it's crazy to think how much they've changed. I see why many at the time that post was put up thought they wouldn't go far cause such a British band but many forget Favourite worst Nightmare did make top 10 in the States. Humbug was a brave move and now looking at the huge success of AM, you got to say it's paid off. It prolonged their career. I don't think anyone would deny Alex's talent but like the talented Chris Martin are their bands music a natural progression? or is it an purposeful move to try and be relevant in other markets |
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Post by lahaine on Apr 3, 2014 18:23:11 GMT -5
To be fair you are right but it's crazy to think how much they've changed. I see why many at the time that post was put up thought they wouldn't go far cause such a British band but many forget Favourite worst Nightmare did make top 10 in the States. Humbug was a brave move and now looking at the huge success of AM, you got to say it's paid off. It prolonged their career. I don't think anyone would deny Alex's talent but like the talented Chris Martin are their bands music a natural progression? or is it an purposeful move to try and be relevant in other markets I think it's a musical progression in the case of Turner and Co but I do think the new album was done to break the U.S market, I'm sure most big bands have done that when they haven't broken big in America. But the Monkey's have been slowly building to this album since Humbug. I'd say One for the Road Snap out of it and Why don't you call me when you're High were probably attempts at having top 10 singles. So it's really a bit of both on the Monkey's side
I think Coldplay's last album was a belated attempt from them to stay relevant by winning of over some pop fan's. Nothing wrong with that to be fair but it came over lacking and is Coldplay's worse album to date cause it lacked heart.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Apr 4, 2014 15:40:16 GMT -5
The Arctic Monkeys are a sensational band. Easily the best, most creative band out there... Alex Turner is prolific and is "today's" Noel Gallagher. The reason they are slated these days is because, as someone stated above, they flew out of the blocks and there is only one way to go from there...
How people can say that they haven't written a good tune since their first album is beyond me, their second album is glorious and they have steadily released great albums since day one.
In the olden days before Alex became the showman he tries to be today one could imagine their shows being dull, however Turner is a funny charismatic (in his own way) frontman and the energy they have in each gig is brilliant. Great band, great music - fucking idiot who wrote that review in the OP.
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Post by kingcrawler on Apr 4, 2014 15:54:25 GMT -5
The Arctic Monkeys are a sensational band. Easily the best, most creative band out there... Alex Turner is prolific and is "today's" Noel Gallagher. The reason they are slated these days is because, as someone stated above, they flew out of the blocks and there is only one way to go from there... How people can say that they haven't written a good tune since their first album is beyond me, their second album is glorious and they have steadily released great albums since day one. In the olden days before Alex became the showman he tries to be today one could imagine their shows being dull, however Turner is a funny charismatic (in his own way) frontman and the energy they have in each gig is brilliant. Great band, great music - fucking idiot who wrote that review in the OP. You're right their gigs being dull before Alex became a good frontman, saw them on the SIAS tour and they just looked like they couldn't be bothered. Much better when I saw them last year. |
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Post by jakob61907 on May 9, 2014 3:16:03 GMT -5
Covering Tame Impala. Very nice
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