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Post by mape on Jun 18, 2004 22:02:26 GMT -5
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Post by daysleeper on Jun 18, 2004 22:10:23 GMT -5
yay wilco! where would this forum be without them? 4 stars from Rolling Stone - not bad huh i dont like this new album as much as YHF but there are some good songs and i'm gonna have to listen to it a lot more
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Post by Columbia on Jun 19, 2004 13:51:47 GMT -5
im gonna see them live next friday ;D supporting oasis, sorrt of there quite a bit down the bill.
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Post by mape on Jun 19, 2004 21:27:12 GMT -5
The only reason Columbia is going is to see Wilco. He's just ashamed of telling us.
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Post by Columbia on Jun 20, 2004 11:07:11 GMT -5
The only reason Columbia is going is to see Wilco. He's just ashamed of telling us. no im not, its the only reason im going . Who cares about shity oasis anyway
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Post by mape on Jun 20, 2004 20:22:06 GMT -5
you've made Daysleeper the happiest man in the world.
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Post by shadowboxer on Jun 21, 2004 18:09:42 GMT -5
Wilco Gets Weird Again With New Album
Jun 21, 3:46 PM (ET)
By DAVID BAUDER NEW YORK (AP) - Wilco's music is, by turns, enigmatic, compelling, thrilling and absorbing. And it's often - let's be honest here - just plain weird. Sometimes it's many of those things in the same song. But while Wilco's 2002 breakthrough album, "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot," was self-consciously weird, the follow-up, "a ghost is born," is more confidently weird.
The disc is being released Tuesday, although Wilco has streamed the music on its Web site for the past two months.
The new album's predecessor became a legendary parable for the music industry, even a subject for a movie. Rejected by Wilco's record company - essentially for being too, uh, weird - it was released to critical acclaim and became Wilco's biggest seller.
Wilco's growth from a standard alternative country band to a more arty, experimental unit nearly tore the band apart.
"It was a much easier record in terms of band dynamic and the amount of collaboration and investment from everybody involved," said Jeff Tweedy, the chief singer and songwriter. "There was a lot more of a unified vision of what we wanted to do."
The documentary depicting the "Yankee" sessions showed Tweedy and an ex-band member frequently arguing, with Tweedy leaving the studio at one point to vomit.
While it was smoother sailing with the band, Tweedy's health clouded the sessions for "ghost."
"I was feeling so rotten physically and emotionally that it was kind of a bloodbath for me," he said.
Tweedy had frequent migraines from a panic disorder, which led to an addiction to painkillers. He went to a treatment facility for nearly a month this spring to deal with the problems.
He's sure those troubles are reflected in his songs.
"A lot of things came from my subconscious that made me realize that I did know down deep some of the things I needed to do to get better," he said. "That's not uncommon. I think music exists to help you identify things in your life."
While "Yankee" was an album that looked out at the world and struggles to communicate, "ghost" looks inward, he said. Much of it is about how difficult it is to know and be comfortable with who you are.
The song "Handshake Drugs" is one of the album's most straightforward songs lyrically. But Tweedy often writes in a language that barely approaches English. He comes up with Technicolor imagery - "a fixed bayonet through the great southwest to forget her"- that can be difficult to decipher.
Tweedy has a very specific story in his head when he sings "Spiders (Kidsmoke)." He sees rebellious preteens testing their independence on a summer vacation, coping with the emotional unavailability of their white-collar, workaholic parents.
The lyrics: "Spiders are singing in the salty breeze, spiders are filling out tax returns, spinning out webs of deductions and melody, on a private beach in Michigan."
Tweedy has no idea whether listeners will conjure the same story and, like many writers, doesn't particularly care.
"The only way it works is for a listener to come to it and find some shape that fits them, to find some container that's the right size to pour themselves into" he said. "That's the only way art works. At least 50 percent of the equation is the consciousness of the listener."
Wilco's eclecticism extends to the music. "Spiders (Kidsmoke)," is 10 minutes long, driven by a bubbling synthesizer and a guitar riff, that draws hypnotic strength from repetition.
"At Least That's What You Said" is a whisper-quiet love song, accompanied by piano, for two minutes. Then it ends wordlessly with a squalling, Neil Young-like guitar workout.
The ultimate is "Less Than You Think." It's a pretty, conventional song for three minutes then ends with a 12-minute, machine-made drone that would test anyone's patience.
The song is about free will and is partly an inside joke; the band wanted the longest song on the album to be called "Less Than You Think." It also compels audience participation.
"It was another way to encourage listeners to exercise their free will - to get up and turn it off," Tweedy said.
Tweedy smiles when he hears a phrase that writer Joe Klein, in The New York Times review of Greg Kot's new biography of Wilco, used to describe the music on "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot." He called it "brilliantly annoying" - a phrase he might extend to "a ghost is born."
"It sounded positive," Tweedy said. "I think that's better than just annoying. I think it's better than just brilliant. Neither one of those would be very descriptive of that record."
If a listener said that he often has no idea what Tweedy is saying in a song but enjoys it anyway, would Tweedy be pleased or insulted?
"I consider that a compliment, because I think they're wrong," he said. "I don't think they don't understand a bloody thing I'm talking about. I just think they might not be able to express it, because it might be something that's not centered around language.
"It's music," he said. "You can't tell someone a melody. You can't tell someone a guitar solo. They're very powerful things."
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Post by mape on Jun 21, 2004 20:56:29 GMT -5
Shadow posting about Wilco... and i thought i'd seen it all. Wait a minute, i started the thread... what have i done
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Post by shadowboxer on Jun 21, 2004 21:25:17 GMT -5
Shadow posting about Wilco... and i thought i'd seen it all. Wait a minute, i started the thread... what have i done I figured I would post some late night reading for our fav drunk Daysleeper. Since England won Im sure he is drowning in a few pints and would love to log in and see Wilco news!! See- aren't i a true friend...
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Post by ListenUp on Jun 22, 2004 10:55:22 GMT -5
no im not, its the only reason im going . Who cares about shity oasis anyway You better be joking Columbia. ;D
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Post by mape on Jun 22, 2004 20:45:09 GMT -5
no jokes
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