they already have,

Chris Martin along with coldplay have brought a huge huge amount of publicity to "Make Trade Fair" many people wear MTF tshirts because there coldplay fans, at the gig last night there was pititions outside and before the gig, so he has made a difference in that sense, by making millions aware

Bono, bonos work with data has been unbeleivable, he is considered to have one of the main roles in gettin billions of extra aid in 2004, his work with amnisty international in the 80s was also very important, but his acheivements with data have been quite unbeleiveable

Geldolf - Live Aid & Live 8

they HAVE made a difference

No. They're raising awareness though.

no

Of course. Unless they became politicians, they've got no chance. I really think they don't want to though. This leads me to one conclusion only: MARKETING.

i don't knw if any of you canadians remember that ed the sock bit about his take on bono and his initiatives. basically what he was sayin was that bono supports these causes when U2 isn't at their commercial peaks (zooropa era, before the joshua tree, during atyclb) and that he doesnt think bono actually dontes to his charities and stuff he supports.
nevertheless, I'm a big supporter of bono and his causes. chris martin too, maybe moreso because he hasnt gotten alot of results like bono has.

wanker

You can beat poverty, you can't beat ignorance though.

All the non-believers should stop being so cynical (and believe me, I'm quite a cynical person myself!). If anyone actually believes they haven't made a change in the matters, then they're either blind or plain dumb.

Will they solve all of the problems they're fighting against? of course not, not in their lifetime. But they have made a change and inspired people to do something. If you don't believe in the whole thing, just don't pay attention to it - but don't slag it and say it's all bullshit or whatever.

And btw, even if they were doing it for the money or publicity...would that be wrong? at least they're helping others in the process. For instance, let's say that a doctor comes up with a vaccine against AIDS, but his only purpose behind that was to become rich and famous and win the Nobel prize - what would you say? ''Ah fuck it, let all AIDS infected people die till we find a vaccine that was discovered by a doctor who did it for the right reasons'' - fuck you wouldn't.


(Sorry for the lame example - I was just trying to prove a point )

There you go, you're not the first mod to behave like this in here, so I'm not shocked. But to slag me off without debating the issue kid... that's just impotent. I didn't slagg anyone off. I made a bloody question that you didn't answer. If the wanker was to me, then I should ask why.

Now, about me. How would you know? In fact, I'm member of a non profit club called Rotaract from Rotary. If you look for it you'd be surprised with the program actually. But not gonna give you a speech that yeah.. I do more than you. Nope. If you take a look at the program and if you do like it, you can join us for great causes that make a better community to live in. I bet there's one very close your house.

But let's talk about the subject. To make poverty history, it's a question really more complex than to shake some hands and to appear at some photos. Coz that to me IS publicity. It is publicity for the cause too but I think everybody knows that Africa is having a terrible time. But it's not just Africa my friend. The whole third world countries are suffering and even my country and even Idol's country, that had the right to slagg me off for having a different point of view. Now it is a emergency task to the UN. Now why wouldn't they take the cause seriously? humm.. let us see.. As Idol made that terrible exemple above I'm gonna give you one. Would drop 60% of your payment to see those countries rise again? Now by you I don't mean you personally, I know the system of your country, it's the same as mine. The difference about it is that what I earn in a year, you make in a month. The system is wrong there. I know that when someone lives someone else has to die but well.. Try to apply that to every single country. It's why that is so complex. The idea for a start is superb though. But don't come and shake the hands to my president and take a good photo, that just make me more pissed off. And more: don't announce that you'll do it. I think it's very contradictory what they say. Can't buy it.

No. Then I'll have to say that you don't know my country. There are regions that don't even have water. People dying of hunger coz the soil won't produce a bloody bean. I'm not comparing anything coz they're all related. Does it matter if 97% of Etiopia lives bellow misery and that 30% of my country lives in the same way? It's the same problem, the same shitty governments and the same lives. Man, we believed in this actual president before the elections, including myself, coz he had a program to fight hunger (you can check it here www.fomezero.gov.br/ but you'll probably gonna need an english translator) and to fight the society issues that've been going for a long time now, but it's not working. This year we just knew that they use public money to do their campaigns for the elections. Everything has to be changed, including the people that live here, including myself. Too bad that when we cry for help, they only listen to celebrities that have an airplane for himself and tell us to fuck off coz who the fuck are you?. Right? I know you live in a rich country and all that, but things are shite around here.

We can't make everyone believe they're doing a great service to the world, just the same as we can't change the world overnight. One person at a time I suppose.

the 3 of them are complete tossers

although they have alll made some great music

If they continue to act the way they are acting, they won't change the world.

I believe they have good intentions but are dealing with wrong people. Trying to convince the rich countries that they have to help the poor will never work.

Maybe, if they worked together with the poor people they could make a difference.