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Post by Parka Flames on Aug 28, 2024 4:18:20 GMT -5
This world tour looks to be one of the biggest ever, and Oasis seem to be a much more enduring and relevant part of the pop culture landscape than they were in 2009.
The cynics will say it's because bands aren't really a thing any more so there's not much competition.
But did Coldplay's last tour get covered by all the major news outlets? I think not...
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Post by coconutstall on Aug 28, 2024 4:29:14 GMT -5
I think comparing to Coldplay or any other band for the last 40 years is now redundant, honestly believe they're on to become one of the biggest bands of all time worldwide and be as revered as they are in the UK if they play their cards right. We all know how great they both are in interviews, how many funny and meme-worthy moments they have and I think now they encapsulating the entire universe everyone will realise how much bigger they are than the two songs they're known for.
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Post by crisppacket on Aug 28, 2024 5:02:44 GMT -5
People like Coldplay and voted for the nazi’s, you can’t trust people
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Post by bhnausnz on Aug 28, 2024 5:20:33 GMT -5
Coldplay and U2 will always sell more tickets. And other rubbish like Bon Jovi.
But those bands mean nothing to anyone.
Oasis is and always will be the real deal. Council estate to world domination.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Aug 28, 2024 5:35:15 GMT -5
I think comparing to Coldplay or any other band for the last 40 years is now redundant, honestly believe they're on to become one of the biggest bands of all time worldwide and be as revered as they are in the UK if they play their cards right. We all know how great they both are in interviews, how many funny and meme-worthy moments they have and I think now they encapsulating the entire universe everyone will realise how much bigger they are than the two songs they're known for. This tour is big but Coldplay’s is still bigger.
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 28, 2024 7:10:50 GMT -5
This world tour looks to be one of the biggest ever, and Oasis seem to be a much more enduring and relevant part of the pop culture landscape than they were in 2009. The cynics will say it's because bands aren't really a thing any more so there's not much competition. But did Coldplay's last tour get covered by all the major news outlets? I think not... I think it's just circumstances. If Coldplay or U2 split up in 2009 and then announced a reunion tour yesterday, it would be a bigger deal than Oasis. Even more media coverage and a bigger world tour. That's just the way it goes. The Oasis hype is only so big right now because they've been gone for so long.
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Post by racingman11 on Aug 28, 2024 7:25:05 GMT -5
The audience are not the same. Coldplay is the kind of band liked by people that are not that invested into music. It is really mainstream, with big colorfull shows in which you don’t end up covered in beer and piss.
On the other hand Oasis is probably more significant on a cultural point of view, especially in the UK.
So more press coverage for Oasis, but bigger numbers for Coldplay.
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Post by halftheworldaway91 on Aug 28, 2024 7:27:36 GMT -5
This world tour looks to be one of the biggest ever, and Oasis seem to be a much more enduring and relevant part of the pop culture landscape than they were in 2009. The cynics will say it's because bands aren't really a thing any more so there's not much competition. But did Coldplay's last tour get covered by all the major news outlets? I think not... I think it's just circumstances. If Coldplay or U2 split up in 2009 and then announced a reunion tour yesterday, it would be a bigger deal than Oasis. Even more media coverage and a bigger world tour. That's just the way it goes. The Oasis hype is only so big right now because they've been gone for so long. Not a chance Coldplay would be a bigger deal than Oasis if they split in 2009 and came back together today. Different band back then.
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Post by surrealneil on Aug 28, 2024 7:30:07 GMT -5
Coldplay and U2 will always sell more tickets. And other rubbish like Bon Jovi. But those bands mean nothing to anyone. Oasis is and always will be the real deal. Council estate to world domination. Well those bands mean a lot to their fans I guess. You don't sell the tickets Coldplay does without some dedicated fans.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Aug 28, 2024 7:31:06 GMT -5
There are people who are not Oasis fans already in my city who are going crazy and will try to buy tickets. This worldwide craze could see Oasis break Knebworth 1996's record of 2.5 million ticket requests.
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Post by surrealneil on Aug 28, 2024 7:33:43 GMT -5
I think it's just circumstances. If Coldplay or U2 split up in 2009 and then announced a reunion tour yesterday, it would be a bigger deal than Oasis. Even more media coverage and a bigger world tour. That's just the way it goes. The Oasis hype is only so big right now because they've been gone for so long. Not a chance Coldplay would be a bigger deal than Oasis if they split in 2009 and came back together in today. Different band back then. That's probably true, but it's really the story of the split, the war of the brothers that has set it up for a spectacular reunion. Coldplay will never have that kind of storyline. But still, Coldplay can probably still sell more tickets on a worldwide basis without any other side story, just because so many people seem to enjoy their music. It depends how you want to look at it. Oasis are certainly more iconic in the UK, that's not up for debate. Coldplay are an industry person's dream. Can sell huge concerts out anywhere in the world and there's gonna be 0 drama, just raking in the money. They're a slick machine for sure.
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Post by coconutstall on Aug 28, 2024 7:36:13 GMT -5
I think comparing to Coldplay or any other band for the last 40 years is now redundant, honestly believe they're on to become one of the biggest bands of all time worldwide and be as revered as they are in the UK if they play their cards right. We all know how great they both are in interviews, how many funny and meme-worthy moments they have and I think now they encapsulating the entire universe everyone will realise how much bigger they are than the two songs they're known for. This tour is big but Coldplay’s is still bigger. In terms of gigs and amount of people attending? Yeah, but the amount of people that will apply for tickets for these gigs could sell out Wembley for the next couple years straight. The Gallaghers are 10 years older than Chris Martin and have given themselves a lot more wear and tear over the years, so obviously probably physically couldn't do the same amount of dates as him, but their cultural relevance dwarfs him now and that's going to get proven once they are back on stage.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Aug 28, 2024 7:37:46 GMT -5
There’s certainly a chance of them getting the biggest theyve ever been outside the UK. The combination of playing their cards right with US dates, along with seriously great new music, could do that.
However, I cant quite see them getting to the heights of acts who play two dozen 100,000-seater stadiums across the US. Like say U2 or the Stones. That was really the chance they blew in 1997.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Aug 28, 2024 7:46:59 GMT -5
I think it's just circumstances. If Coldplay or U2 split up in 2009 and then announced a reunion tour yesterday, it would be a bigger deal than Oasis. Even more media coverage and a bigger world tour. That's just the way it goes. The Oasis hype is only so big right now because they've been gone for so long. Not a chance Coldplay would be a bigger deal than Oasis if they split in 2009 and came back together today. Different band back then. Thats what id highlight about Coldplay which people seem to forget. Since about 2010 theyve deliberately gone more pop. From 2000-08 they were more of a melancholy alt-rock act in the vein of Radiohead, Keane and The Verve. But since then they’ve become so much more of a pop act. Their recent hits would be so out of place on their first 4 albums. Sort of like Maroon 5 i guess, people forget they were more of an indie act at first and then went pop.
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Post by Lundblad on Aug 28, 2024 7:54:04 GMT -5
Coldplay were quite huge in the end of the 00s, after X&Y and Viva la Vida or whatever the 4th album is called.
Haven't heard the music they released since then, but I would say that they already at that point were big in the mainstream, easy-listening, category.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Aug 28, 2024 7:59:31 GMT -5
Coldplay were quite huge in the end of the 00s, after X&Y and Viva la Vida or whatever the 4th album is called. Haven't heard the music they released since then, but I would say that they already at that point were big in the mainstream, easy-listening, category. They were already pretty huge, but what led them to become like the U2 of their era (a safe choice who fill stadiums as a result), was them going pop in the 2010s. Collaborations with acts like Rihanna and Avicii was what gained them streaming dominance in the US. Had they stuck to the niche of those albums you mention, theyd still be a big live draw but not the size they are.
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Post by vespa on Aug 28, 2024 9:25:04 GMT -5
Oasis have already been the biggest band in the world , 95-98 .. Coldplay are almost a cross genre pop easy listening group and most go to see their stage shows .. this oasis tour is only going to get bigger and bigger , they’ll play in countries their biggest shows to date. They will go on demand but people underestimate how big they were , Coldplay dont sell albums anymore but world tours huge, oasis sold over 100 million records worldwide , you don’t just sell that amount being big in the uk.
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Post by dadrocker on Aug 28, 2024 9:35:31 GMT -5
The difference with Oasis and Coldplay which has people excited is you have no idea what could happen between Noel and Liam at any Oasis gig. Chris Martin isn't going to throw a shoe at the drummer but Liam might throw a beer at Noel at some point. There's already betting on when it'll happen. That's the difference between Oasis and Coldplay, the unexpected, that makes it so much more worth watching for all of us and even people who don't care about Oasis.
Coldplay is a much safer bet, as has been discussed. They do put on a good show though, at least back in the Viva la Vida days. Haven't bothered since then, tbh.
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Aug 28, 2024 9:42:04 GMT -5
Well there's a chance they'll make rock'n'roll mainstream again and if they do so that would be one huge achievement for them and that would be something that would make both of them proud.
Plus, while I don't think it matters much (it certainly doesn't matter at all to both Liam and Noel), they were nominated to the Hall of Fame earlier this year (failed to get in but I never thought they'd even get to the nomination stage). The hype around the reunion is almost certain to get them renominated next year and likely to get in after the final vote.
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Post by coolprophet on Aug 28, 2024 10:40:43 GMT -5
No.
But massive jump(reunion bonus) compared to when they broke up this gonna be and if that hype even gets them (finally) playing some stadiums in NA alongside everywhere else they would definitely rank pretty high speaking of "Rock" bands and their status in 2025.
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Post by GlastoEls on Aug 28, 2024 10:42:40 GMT -5
No. But massive jump(reunion bonus) compared to when they broke up this gonna be and if that hype even gets them (finally) playing some stadiums in NA alongside everywhere else they would definitely rank pretty high speaking of "Rock" bands and their status in 2025. I agree.
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Post by paddyramone on Aug 28, 2024 16:37:45 GMT -5
If you were aged 12-25 during 94-95-96-97 Oasis are already the biggest band in the world. It’s what they meant and what they said. They sealed their status almost 30 years ago.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 28, 2024 16:57:41 GMT -5
Coldplay are a brilliant pop-rock band and they deserve all their success.
Oasis are a different beast altogether. They won't be the most streamed or the most-attended, but this reunion - if it's anything more than a low-effort cash-grab - has the chance to be one of the most culturally significant British events of this century so far. That might not make them the biggest band in the world in a technical sense, but it certainly makes them the most meaningful. And, at the end of the day, isn't that what bands are for?
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Post by sheisloved on Aug 28, 2024 17:02:49 GMT -5
Coldplay is not a rockband
That ended after Rush of Blood to the Head
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Post by matt on Aug 28, 2024 17:03:18 GMT -5
The audience are not the same. Coldplay is the kind of band liked by people that are not that invested into music. It is really mainstream, with big colorfull shows in which you don’t end up covered in beer and piss.On the other hand Oasis is probably more significant on a cultural point of view, especially in the UK. So more press coverage for Oasis, but bigger numbers for Coldplay. Which is actually a good thing about a Coldplay show. I just hope 15 years on, ticket prices are too expensive for those knuckle dragging pissheads or they have either all dropped dead from their massive coronaries. Wipe the scum away and these Oasis shows will be epic.
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