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Post by darmin on Sept 10, 2024 7:01:48 GMT -5
Liam's tunes are fine. Some charlatan called Andy Bell of Oasis/Beady Eye is not the same Andy Bell of Ride I swear. Real Jekyll & Hyde shit going on there. As for Gem Archer.... ah forget it. If it ain't got 'Gallagher' in the songwriting credit, I'm not interested. I'm here for an Oasis reunion, not half Oasis/half Beady Eye Frankenstein monster of an album. If Andy Bell writes a song for the new album I vow now to never listen to it. I am being deadly serious. When he tries to write Oasis tunes they are horrendous. The only good example is Turn Up The Sun which doesn't sound like an Oasis song. Every single Beady Eye song he wrote was poor, imo. Even Roller or World Outside My Room?
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Post by andymorris on Sept 10, 2024 7:09:21 GMT -5
Gem wrote the Roller
But yeah, only noel's tunes please. Or LAG bsides...
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 10, 2024 7:12:11 GMT -5
Record Machine and Stop the Clocks are two that Liam recorded obviously. After that I’m a bit dubious. Some of the songs were written during the DOYS sessions (Jesus Freaks and Broken Arrow I think) and more were written during the tour (Freaky Teeth, EotR, If I had a Gun etc.) and I think What a Life was written between break up and recording of the album. Come On Outside was written but Liam didn’t record album vocals. I don’t think there’s too much if any evidence for the other songs having been written in time for Liam to sing. Stranded on the Wrong Beach sounds like it would fit on DOYS but I’m not sure when it was written. To the best of my knowledge... - '(I Wanna Live in a Dream in My) Record Machine', 'Stop the Clocks' and 'The Good Rebel' were all written before DOYS. As were 'Revolution Song', 'Come On Outside', 'God Help Us All', 'Just Let It Come Down Over Me', 'International Magic' and the chorus to 'Lock All the Doors'. - 'Dream On', 'Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks' and 'Freaky Teeth' all appeared in some kind of DOYS side session that Dave Sardy wanted them to record but Noel said no. - 'Everybody's On the Run', 'If I Had a Gun' and 'A Simple Game of Genius' were all soundchecked in 2009 before the band broke up. 'Don't Stop' was too. I might be wrong but Noel may have said 'The Dying of the Light' might have been about post-DOYS too. It was certainly available for his debut. How much Liam would've sang on who knows but his statement seems entirely plausible. I don’t think anything written during the recording of DoYS will have had Liam vocals. Of course I don’t have proof but I’d be surprised given they “didn’t have time” to record vocals for Come On Outside that it’s unlikely Liam was recording vocals for new demos. What’s the source on Freaky Teeth coming from the DoyS sessions. I always thought Noel talked about writing that (a Bond tune) during the tour because it was in his tour diary but it’s been years since I’ve read that so I could be wrong!
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Sept 10, 2024 7:25:52 GMT -5
To the best of my knowledge... - '(I Wanna Live in a Dream in My) Record Machine', 'Stop the Clocks' and 'The Good Rebel' were all written before DOYS. As were 'Revolution Song', 'Come On Outside', 'God Help Us All', 'Just Let It Come Down Over Me', 'International Magic' and the chorus to 'Lock All the Doors'. - 'Dream On', 'Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks' and 'Freaky Teeth' all appeared in some kind of DOYS side session that Dave Sardy wanted them to record but Noel said no. - 'Everybody's On the Run', 'If I Had a Gun' and 'A Simple Game of Genius' were all soundchecked in 2009 before the band broke up. 'Don't Stop' was too. I might be wrong but Noel may have said 'The Dying of the Light' might have been about post-DOYS too. It was certainly available for his debut. How much Liam would've sang on who knows but his statement seems entirely plausible. I don’t think anything written during the recording of DoYS will have had Liam vocals. Of course I don’t have proof but I’d be surprised given they “didn’t have time” to record vocals for Come On Outside that it’s unlikely Liam was recording vocals for new demos. What’s the source on Freaky Teeth coming from the DoyS sessions. I always thought Noel talked about writing that (a Bond tune) during the tour because it was in his tour diary but it’s been years since I’ve read that so I could be wrong! I believe the side session were demos being put together by Noel and Gem. Here's the quote for 'Freaky Teeth'. Thanks to asimarx Some more info here... forum.live4ever.uk.com/post/1210342
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 10, 2024 7:30:05 GMT -5
Anyway, all songs Noel written. If Liam wants to write songs he can put them out as a solo record. Who writes what is irrelevant as long as the best songs go on the album.
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Post by darmin on Sept 10, 2024 7:32:27 GMT -5
Nothing Nowhere is better than everything that Noel wrote in the last 5 years lbr here (maybe more but I need to check)
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 10, 2024 7:51:02 GMT -5
I don’t think anything written during the recording of DoYS will have had Liam vocals. Of course I don’t have proof but I’d be surprised given they “didn’t have time” to record vocals for Come On Outside that it’s unlikely Liam was recording vocals for new demos. What’s the source on Freaky Teeth coming from the DoyS sessions. I always thought Noel talked about writing that (a Bond tune) during the tour because it was in his tour diary but it’s been years since I’ve read that so I could be wrong! I believe the side session were demos being put together by Noel and Gem. Here's the quote for 'Freaky Teeth'. Thanks to asimarx Some more info here... forum.live4ever.uk.com/post/1210342Cheers! I need to write this stuff down instead of relying on 15/16 year old memories.
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Post by darmin on Sept 10, 2024 8:00:15 GMT -5
To the best of my knowledge... - '(I Wanna Live in a Dream in My) Record Machine', 'Stop the Clocks' and 'The Good Rebel' were all written before DOYS. As were 'Revolution Song', 'Come On Outside', 'God Help Us All', 'Just Let It Come Down Over Me', 'International Magic' and the chorus to 'Lock All the Doors'. - 'Dream On', 'Soldier Boys & Jesus Freaks' and 'Freaky Teeth' all appeared in some kind of DOYS side session that Dave Sardy wanted them to record but Noel said no. - 'Everybody's On the Run', 'If I Had a Gun' and 'A Simple Game of Genius' were all soundchecked in 2009 before the band broke up. 'Don't Stop' was too. I might be wrong but Noel may have said 'The Dying of the Light' might have been about post-DOYS too. It was certainly available for his debut. How much Liam would've sang on who knows but his statement seems entirely plausible. I don’t think anything written during the recording of DoYS will have had Liam vocals. Of course I don’t have proof but I’d be surprised given they “didn’t have time” to record vocals for Come On Outside that it’s unlikely Liam was recording vocals for new demos. What’s the source on Freaky Teeth coming from the DoyS sessions. I always thought Noel talked about writing that (a Bond tune) during the tour because it was in his tour diary but it’s been years since I’ve read that so I could be wrong! They did have time to record vocals for Come On Outside and other songs. It was discussed before on the forum. Noel is very liberal with truth
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 10, 2024 8:39:34 GMT -5
Nothing Nowhere is better than everything that Noel wrote in the last 5 years lbr here (maybe more but I need to check) No.
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Post by darmin on Sept 10, 2024 9:02:36 GMT -5
Nothing Nowhere is better than everything that Noel wrote in the last 5 years lbr here (maybe more but I need to check) No. You are entitled to your wrong opinion of course x
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Sept 10, 2024 9:03:45 GMT -5
Nothing Nowhere is better than everything that Noel wrote in the last 5 years lbr here (maybe more but I need to check) I agree. And if it were included in an Oasis album it would become yet another masterpiece.
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 10, 2024 9:10:26 GMT -5
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Post by andymorris on Sept 10, 2024 9:59:46 GMT -5
Oasis did put Little James as pivotal track on their comeback album, so why not Nothing Nowhere.
How funny would it be that the song leaked by Liam two years was actually an Oasis track and the 1st hint to a reunion though...
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Post by Parka Flames on Sept 10, 2024 10:49:22 GMT -5
I'd have thought Liam would have at least one songwriting credit so he gets a decent share of the royalties.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Sept 10, 2024 11:08:19 GMT -5
Oasis did put Little James as pivotal track on their comeback album, so why not Nothing Nowhere. How funny would it be that the song leaked by Liam two years was actually an Oasis track and the 1st hint to a reunion though... Nothing Nowhere is a million times better than Little James. It's a great song. That being said I don't want it on an Oasis album. Doesn't sound anything like an Oasis song. Sounds like a Liam solo song.
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 10, 2024 11:46:58 GMT -5
I prefer just a tour without new music rather than an album with songs like "Nothing Nowhere."
For such rubbish songs, we can use AI to create songs like that.
Either Noel’s magic or I don’t need new music at all.
These pathetic rip-offs and poor imitations of The Stones and The Beatles – no thanks.
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Post by mossy on Sept 10, 2024 11:51:55 GMT -5
Cheers! I need to write this stuff down instead of relying on 15/16 year old memories. This is why I started adding references to post 1 🤓
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Post by LlAM on Sept 10, 2024 11:55:21 GMT -5
I prefer just a tour without new music rather than an album with songs like "Nothing Nowhere." For such rubbish songs, we can use AI to create songs like that. Either Noel’s magic or I don’t need new music at all. These pathetic rip-offs and poor imitations of The Stones and The Beatles – no thanks. I agree. A comeback album needs to be excellent or don't bother at all, just tour. It needs to be at least NGHFB#1 or Chasing Yesterday good, and definitely needs to be more consistent than anything Oasis post Be Here Now.
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Post by andymorris on Sept 10, 2024 11:56:19 GMT -5
Oasis did put Little James as pivotal track on their comeback album, so why not Nothing Nowhere. How funny would it be that the song leaked by Liam two years was actually an Oasis track and the 1st hint to a reunion though... Nothing Nowhere is a million times better than Little James. It's a great song. That being said I don't want it on an Oasis album. Doesn't sound anything like an Oasis song. Sounds like a Liam solo song. it's a very generic melody. Its not bad, but feels a bit like a song written with other songs' bits of melody, if that makes sense;
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 10, 2024 12:06:24 GMT -5
Nothing Nowhere is a million times better than Little James. It's a great song. That being said I don't want it on an Oasis album. Doesn't sound anything like an Oasis song. Sounds like a Liam solo song. it's a very generic melody. Its not bad, but feels a bit like a song written with other songs' bits of melody, if that makes sense; It does makes sense. It starts like Stones, then when he starts to sing it is Once part II, then it tries to be A Day in the Life...
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 10, 2024 12:07:53 GMT -5
Work your every...
It was easier...
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Post by resurrection89 on Sept 10, 2024 12:24:14 GMT -5
I think Noel will write all the songs and they will be mega!😎 I’m expecting a classic TBH. I’d want something that’s easily their 3rd best LP. I see no reason why Noel can’t write an LP that’s as good as HC or DBTT (but not as great as DM or WTSMG)
Noel will want to try and better The brilliant John Squire/LG LP
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 10, 2024 13:08:25 GMT -5
I think Noel will write all the songs and they will be mega!😎 I’m expecting a classic TBH. I’d want something that’s easily their 3rd best LP. I see no reason why Noel can’t write an LP that’s as good as HC or DBTT (but not as great as DM or WTSMG) Noel will want to try and better The brilliant John Squire/LG LP Earlier this year I thought it would be funny if Noel made an album with Marr.
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Post by andrewmattycoles on Sept 10, 2024 14:12:30 GMT -5
I prefer just a tour without new music rather than an album with songs like "Nothing Nowhere." For such rubbish songs, we can use AI to create songs like that. Either Noel’s magic or I don’t need new music at all. These pathetic rip-offs and poor imitations of The Stones and The Beatles – no thanks. I agree. A comeback album needs to be excellent or don't bother at all, just tour. It needs to be at least NGHFB#1 or Chasing Yesterday good, and definitely needs to be more consistent than anything Oasis post Be Here Now. 100% spot on.
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 10, 2024 14:45:31 GMT -5
Yes - the bar should be higher.
Not chucking out mixed albums like the latter days.
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