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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 27, 2006 16:12:18 GMT -5
Last week, I suggested that Arsenal had been so surprised at the space they had at Madrid that they did not take advantage to earn a bigger win. At least one reader wrote to tell me I was talking rubbish. When I sat down to watch Blackburn v Arsenal I was wondering why it was that Arsenal did not completely destroy Real Madrid when the chance so clearly presented itself.
Opportunities, at this stage in the Champions League, come rarely and must be taken. Maybe the reader who wrote back was right. Was Arsenal surprised at being allowed the space to play for the first time in 7 months or was it a more fundamental problem with the side?
At Ewood Park, I think I got the answer. It is maybe premature to jump to this conclusion but it isn't a new conclusion either. Arsenal don't have anybody to direct the team on the pitch. So they can't react on the pitch. Fabregas is the closest Arsenal have in a position to take control and make the team react to changing circumstances on the pitch.
In Spain, nobody said, "Come on guys, we are being given a lot of space, let's exploit this. Let's press on in this half and see what we can get."
Nobody apart from Fabregas tried to marshall the team to plug the holes and fight Blackburn harder up the pitch. The answer seems obvious, there's nobody in the right place to do what Patrick Vieira used to do in leading the team. Lehmann and Touré are leaders but they are far back trying to keep a makeshift, young defence together. In front of them, the only person with leadership qualities is Fabregas and he is too young yet to command the presence of an older player. God knows he's trying and gaining respect for it!
Every team needs to be able to react on the pitch using its leaders. Some managers like José Mourinho and Alex Ferguson force their teams to react to changing circumstances by early substitutions if their leaders on the pitch don't. These managers will make very early substitutions. José Mourinho has substituted in the 27th minute to force his team to exploit a changing circumstance on the pitch.
Mourinho swaps Crespo and Drogba at 46 minnutes. If the players don't take control, these managers do it, and do it quickly. Arsène Wenger is not exactly full of resources right now but at least he is beginning to make early substitutions. Before this season, Wenger rarely brought anyone on before the 75th minute. Now he does and he needs to do that more often since his team is very deficient of on-the-pitch leaders.
One thing the Real Madrid and Blackburn games have showed us is that Fabregas, Hleb and Reyes are good at taking the game to the opposition. In the Premiership where things are tight, those players should always play. They will go forward and they can defend. Hleb is increasingly getting better at defending. We also miss direct players like van Persie. Henry is destroying Adebayor (who is quicker than he looks) and Henry destroys Reyes in the Premiership by straying into the space that Reyes needs to run. I would have no hesitation in playing van Persie and Adebayor and dropping Henry.
Henry's only redeeming feature right now is that he is much better at finishing than anyone else. But at the same time, he is destroying the team. He wastes the teams' efforts when he is not in front of goal and when he is on the pitch no other channels are exploited, everything goes through him. Our makeshift wing backs will cost us about a goal per game (?) but that should be expected. It is a miracle that this didn't happen at Real Madrid.
Arsenal should go into each game knowing they must score at least twice to win. In that case Fabregas, Hleb and Reyes must start and as soon as van Persie is fit, he should start. Henry needs to stay on the bench and rest when van Persie returns. Henry needs to go sort his head out or his contract with Barcelona. Maybe we can swap him for Messi.
I also hope that with the emergence of Eboue as a capable right-back, that Arsène Wenger is thinking seriously about what he would do with Lauren. Lauren is 28 (I think), extremely good on the ball, abundantly aggressive and determined, very experienced and is one of the longest serving players at Highbury. I don't know how but Lauren should wear the captain's armband and play in midfield. That's a fan's heart talking, not the fan's head, I have no idea how that would work but I hope Wenger has given it some thought.
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Post by tezza202 on Feb 27, 2006 16:16:39 GMT -5
Come on now, be realistic..
....Is Dom really gunna read all that? ;D
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 27, 2006 16:19:36 GMT -5
heh a REAL fan would
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Post by tezza202 on Feb 27, 2006 16:24:17 GMT -5
A real fan wouldn't question or give up his faith for his team.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 27, 2006 16:43:49 GMT -5
im only questioning Henry's efforts...which have been lackluster recently....v little debate about that....
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Post by Dominic on Feb 27, 2006 18:24:25 GMT -5
im not going to read it, im just going to look at your picture, and laugh, because my soul is purer than yours, you sad sad little man
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Post by Dominic on Feb 27, 2006 18:35:29 GMT -5
you didnt actually call one of your own posts on a forum an "Article", Dear Lord, somebodie, please, grab this poor child by his shoulders and help remove his head from his arse, please, for the sake of us all, for the sake of my health, for the sake of every member of the human race!.
I now refuse to read your posts, because, well whats the point in me reading them, its just going to keep going on and on, too many times now ive tried to leave this, but you keep hashing it back up, you cant help it to realise youve made yourself look like a right cock as everyone can see (look posts saying the same thing as me! you need to learn what it is to support a team), now, im willing to simply agree to disagree, because i couldnt be fucked any more replying with humble posts to your "articles" , please dont provoke me into returning to this. Dom out.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 27, 2006 19:05:15 GMT -5
hahahahahaha
well a post that is written as an essay is an ARTICLE....its my politcal magazine ARTICLE for school....you're dense, simple as
you may look at my picture and laugh, i look at your posts and laugh at your education (great ive now sunk down to your level)....
i'm ready to be successful in this world, you are some prick who doesnt deserve the air you breathe
good luck in your future, cos you need all the luck you can get....change your fuckin attitude or you'll continue to be percieved as a hard-ass when you're just some insecure guy who needs to step back and take a look at himself
g'day
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Post by Dominic on Feb 27, 2006 19:12:33 GMT -5
im not a hardass, at all, ive never tried to come across as one, find me one post were i threaten you or your family, and if you post that article aimed at me, in your magizine, then by god your virginity shall stay forever in the glass jar under your mothers bed.
Answer me this, why do i not deserve the Air i breath?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 27, 2006 19:18:33 GMT -5
bc your a mean bastard....lighten the fuck up will you
theres 2 'articles'
1.)this one about arsenal, bc it was written on a website and thus qualifies as an article
2.) the one about wiretapping is my article for school, i just wanted ppls views on it, has nothing to do with yours
you can disagree all you want, but to call someone a vagina and all bc you have a different view is immature and it shows your level of education.
i wonder what your gonna do when you get a full time job:
Co-Workers:"Err Dominic, we disagree with your decision here..."
Dominic: "you are all wrong!! fucking vaginas you are" *slams door*
yeh real wise and mature, good luck with that
without saying too much more, just grow up...take Tam for example. She disagree alot with me, esp in politic, but she will give her reasons without resulting to name calling.
but, who am i to tell you how to act. im just giving some advise. do what you want. and good luck to whatever path you choose, all i know is that i will be successful with my life and thats all that matters for me, i hope you feel the same way about yourself...
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Post by Moorish on Feb 28, 2006 10:06:41 GMT -5
Live4ever you REALLY should know when to shut the fuck up. You make yourself sounds like an arsehole. I don't hate you or wish you harm or anything, I'm sure in real life you're a well-meaning kid and everything, but... Jesus, what's the point of these stupid diatribes you go off on? You realise that people just thin kyou're a bigger cockhead by the end of each one? Mug up, have some sex, lighten the hell up for 10 minutes.
Henry shouldn't be captain, no. We all know that. Shut up about it already. It isn't just down to him to pull Arsenal out of this slump, though. Buck stops with Wenger, but you need to give him a little of the faith that he has EARNED from you, a so-called "supporter", over the last 10 years. Stop whining like a brat. And Barcelona will never give up Messi, you're fucking barking.
Like I said in another thread: some people go to games week in week out their whole lives and their teams never win anything or get anywhere. Don't throw your toys out of the pram at the first bump in the road for a decade.
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Post by lionsden® on Feb 28, 2006 10:50:42 GMT -5
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Post by Dominic on Feb 28, 2006 10:52:41 GMT -5
its you that keeps insisting your right, and wont let this go, thats why im calling you a vagina, the reason your a vagina is nothing to do with your veiws, its your personailty and ignorance that makes you a vagina
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Post by Bizzle on Feb 28, 2006 14:06:05 GMT -5
LMAO at Live4ever thinking about sellin Henry. ;D
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 28, 2006 15:59:17 GMT -5
considering that this is the SPORTS BOARD, i have the right to post SPORTS RELATED THINGS and give MY OPINION
then, if you disagree WE DEBATE AND START A CONVERSTATION
NOONE is right/wrong (here or in the politcal section)
If you dont like me, fine who cares....you dont me, and i dont know you...
ppl in real life disagree AND agree with me, neither opinion they take makes them better or smarter....
the fact that ppl have to call others a vagina bc of a disagreement over stuff like this is pathetic
and i will not have personal attack 'waged' on me without me defending myself.....
Dominic, i NEVER said anything against you....you decided to have a go at me....and for what? because you didnt like what i said about Henry? Arsenal? Wenger?
take an example from Tam, maybe she doesnt use the best language all the time (v few of us here do), but she respects everyones opinion, and just simply everyone. I guess that comes with maturity though. So continue acting like a child, i guess i will come to expect responses such as the above....thats ur choice....
btw m8...
it doesnt make me look bad, it makes YOU look bad
and that, hopefully, is the final word from me on this pathetic issue
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Post by tezza202 on Feb 28, 2006 16:09:21 GMT -5
How come when I posted my opinion I was 'wrong' then?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 28, 2006 16:15:01 GMT -5
when?
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Post by tezza202 on Feb 28, 2006 16:20:33 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 28, 2006 17:02:12 GMT -5
simple, thats not an opinion
the stats PROVE that our defense if fine....
do we have crap defenders? yes (THATS an opinion)
are those crap defenders performing well enough? yes (thats a fact)--THIRD best defence in the league!!
our offense-
are the strikers-Titi, VP, Adebayor good? yes (again, opinion)
are they living up their full potential? no (look at the goals scored, i think weve only scored 9 goals away from home in the prem!! shocking)
The midfield is the problem--oin my OPINION
see where im going
theres a difference between facts and opinions. Opinions normally dont have facts to back them up, and if they do then theres counter facts too
take for example Bin Laden. It can be argued hes a terrorist, but it can also be argued hes just a man fighting for something he believes in--freedom fighter if u will. No facts back up either....only opinions
to say PI is 3.14--thats a fact
facts cant be argued really
YOU cant argue the fact that Arsenal have the third best defense in the league. Thus one would make the conclusion that the defense is fine!!!!
arrrrg lol
**EDIT**
You cant win games if you dont score, but you can win games if you concede.....thats 100% true isnt it
1-0vs Blackburn last match. Is conceding about 1 goal per game bad? But if we scored, we would have gotten atleast a 1-1 draw....look at the games weve lost...weve conceded v few but also have scored v few
if we lost games 5-4 all the time, then ur right....but we arnt....most are 1-0 losses (barring West Ham)
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Post by tezza202 on Feb 28, 2006 17:09:50 GMT -5
The ol' double standards. I love it.
I'll have to agree with Dom here.
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Post by feckarse on Feb 28, 2006 17:25:17 GMT -5
to say PI is 3.14--thats a fact I usually dislike being so pedantic, but seeing as it's you, that is not a fact, Pi is actually closer to: 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510 58209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 82148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128 48111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196 44288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091 45648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273 72458700660631558817488152092096282925409171536436 78925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094 33057270365759591953092186117381932611793105118548 07446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912 98336733624406566430860213949463952247371907021798 60943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132 00056812714526356082778577134275778960917363717872 14684409012249534301465495853710507922796892589235 42019956112129021960864034418159813629774771309960 51870721134999999837297804995105973173281609631859 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Post by feckarse on Feb 28, 2006 17:34:30 GMT -5
simple, thats not an opinion the stats PROVE that our defense if fine.... ..........THIRD best defence in the league!! since you're such a statistician (& I must say I find that those who genuinely know about football rarely rely on stats to prove their point, as they can be very mis-leading), you'll see that the Arse currently have the 3rd best attack (based on goals scored stats) with 39 league goals. Still means jack. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 28, 2006 18:59:48 GMT -5
shit...ur right about the offence...third best.... u wonder why then we're so low in the table? but a fact is not an opinion. Why are low in the table?--answers are filled with opinions. We are so inconsistent. FACT....look at the results, win a few games, lose, win, lose a few games, win etc...so random the results I myself believe the problem lies with the midfield. Thus we've scored a low amt of goals compared to the last 9 seasons. currently: 39 scored in 27 22 concded in 27 7th place last season: 87 scored in 38 36 conceded in 38 2nd place compare the two. Defence is better. Attack is much worse. If we were on par with last yrs goals scored, we would be up there. The opinion is that this is the fault of Pires/Ljungberg. The fact is that our offense has let us down this year, not defence. Crap defenders (Flaimni-make shift, Cygan, Camps-losing it): OPINION But they are doing the job hence the 0.8 goals conceded per game: FACT...damn good that is it clearer now? -- Pi is 3.14: FACT Pi is close to 3: FACT Pi goes on for infinity: FACT Pi is a useless number: Opinion  |
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Post by MG on Feb 28, 2006 20:15:12 GMT -5
please keep all them types of stats for american sports.
Macclesfield had the 3 best defence last year in division 3 this year they've conceded loads with more or less the same defence, the main strikers were injured and conceded little when in the team. Good/bad form works both ways.
1 fucking season of playing shite/getting new players in, give it a rest.
PS. I hate arsenal, but not as much as you by the looks of things
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 28, 2006 20:30:36 GMT -5
it is ironic though....we're suppose to be getting better, yet we've gotten worse lol
yeh give it time....the players we have will be good enough one day....
what pisses me off tho is that AW KNEW we needed experience players, and all he did was buy 3 more young players!!
granted Walcott is hyped to be the next big thing
Diaby looks solid already
Jury is still out on Adey.
It would have been nice to see a 26+ yr old bought too....for experience, leadership and influence
i'll tell you what though--it's def going to be exiciting watching these players mature and develop and gel together
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