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Post by Firefly on Dec 21, 2023 15:55:38 GMT -5
I'm going to address the elephant in the room... Surely this will make an Oasis reunion redundant or at least set it back several years? Yeah, it's not happening. Liam has DM tour and SquireGallagher album, said on twitter he'd be touring it, Noel's recording another album in Jan which will take fucking 50 years so nope. It's probably for the best.
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Post by Manualex on Dec 21, 2023 15:59:30 GMT -5
Just thinking of the possibilities when they tour. Squire has the Stone Roses + Seahorses, Liam has Oasis and his solo stuff(even Brady Eye if you'd like) and the new one ofc. What would be a 90 minute dream set from everyone?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 21, 2023 16:06:41 GMT -5
I'm going to address the elephant in the room... Surely this will make an Oasis reunion redundant or at least set it back several years? I’m not that bothered tbh.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Dec 21, 2023 16:18:41 GMT -5
My hope for this is that John has tonnes of unreleased music built up over the many years he's done nothing, and the best of that is very good. And he's giving Liam the best. Because he won't go solo again and The Stone Roses will never happen again. So he needs to get this music out there somehow. I reckon some of it will be what he had planned for a new Stone Roses album. Ian Brown is so far down a rabbit hole there's no saving him. We could be getting the near best of John Squire on this album.
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Post by mancraider on Dec 21, 2023 16:44:39 GMT -5
Just thinking of the possibilities when they tour. Squire has the Stone Roses + Seahorses, Liam has Oasis and his solo stuff(even Brady Eye if you'd like) and the new one ofc. What would be a 90 minute dream set from everyone? Liam has said he won't sing SR songs. I think they'll just want to tour the album, starting small.
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Post by jh on Dec 21, 2023 16:45:59 GMT -5
I'm going to address the elephant in the room... Surely this will make an Oasis reunion redundant or at least set it back several years? I’m not that bothered tbh. Nah..me neither..its had it's day. Move on
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Post by jh on Dec 21, 2023 16:49:31 GMT -5
The stone roses fans are slating it on Facebook. Bit strange really. They're too far up Ian Brown's arse it seems Who can now not sing for shit. Love Ian but as far as voices aging well...Liam is the clear winner.
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Post by jh on Dec 21, 2023 16:52:16 GMT -5
The greatest band of all times is Pulp, everyone knows that. Fake news!!! The greatest band of all time is either Tailgunner or Proud Mary. Followed by Spin Doctors or Bros.
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Dec 21, 2023 16:59:15 GMT -5
Fake news!!! The greatest band of all time is either Tailgunner or Proud Mary. Followed by Spin Doctors or Bros. Then, Hurricane #1 and Heavy Stereo. And The Rain, of course.
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Post by thestylecouncil on Dec 21, 2023 19:47:08 GMT -5
As walrus91 kinda pointed out, it seems a little weird to not have a hype thread for this in the facts and fiction section. So why not continue forum tradition and carry on with discussion in a hype thread? The "tour and album news section" didn't really seem to be the place for this kind of discussion in the past, but just so no one misses what's been discussed so far here's the link to the "announcement thread" live4ever.proboards.com/thread/94381/gallagher-squire?page=1Information we got so far: Websitewww.gallaghersquire.com/ Teasers
http://instagram.com/p/C1AIoBeomvZ http://instagram.com/p/C1CswIErLV8 Single Release Announcement
http://instagram.com/p/C1HF0oQofYF Pre-order and pre-save: gallaghersquire.lnk.to/JustAnotherRainbow
Press Release (posted by darmin in the other thread) A press release for the single promises Squire’s “instantly unforgettable psychedelia-tinged guitar” met with “passion, personality and utmost conviction” from Gallagher’s vocal. “To me the most obvious take on ‘Just Another Rainbow’ is that it’s about disappointment, and the sentiment is that you never get what you really want,” said Squire. “But I don’t like to explain songs, I think that’s the privilege of the listener, it’s whatever you want it to be. To me, it’s also one of the most uplifting tracks we’ve made together, which is weird.” While ‘Just Another Rainbow’ is the first taster of the long-mooted joint album, a press release from the Manchester indie legends has confirmed that “there will be much more new music to come – and there could well be shows, too”. Speaking of their collaboration, Gallagher hailed Squire as “a top songwriter”. “Everyone always bangs on about him as a guitarist, but he’s a top songwriter too, man, no two ways about it as far as I’m concerned,” he said. “There’s not enough of his music out there, whether it’s with the Roses or himself. It’s good to see him back writing songs and fucking good ones. “The melodies are mega and then the guitars are a given. But I think even when you take all the fucking guitars off, you can play the songs all on acoustic and they’ll all still blow your mind.” The first show that Gallagher ever attended was Stone Roses at the International 2 in Manchester when he was 16-years-old, with the pair meeting four years later when Oasis and the Roses were both recording at Monmouth in Wales on what would become ‘Definitely Maybe’ and ‘The Second Coming’. Gallagher and Squire remained friends, later working together to write ‘Love Me and Leave Me’ for the latter’s band The Seahorses, who also toured as guests to Oasis. After the guitarist joined Gallagher onstage at Knebworth to play on ‘Champagne Supernova’, Squire then sent over three songs which Gallagher dubbed “all mega” before they began writing in earnest and working remotely while citing Jimi Hendrix, Sex Pistols, The Faces, Bob Marley and The Bee Gees as influences. The project then grew as Gallagher attended Squire’s studio in Macclesfield, before completing sessions in Los Angeles for three weeks of sessions with producer Greg Kurstin [Adele, Foo Fighters, Sia]. Kurstin also played bass on the record, while drums were provided by Beck, R.E.M. and Atoms For Peace drummer Joey Waronker.
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Post by thestylecouncil on Dec 21, 2023 20:03:03 GMT -5
Just Another Rainbow Release date: 05/01/2024 Preorder: gallaghersquire.lnk.to/JustAnotherRainbowFound this review: So, when Liam’s vocal snarls for the first minute with Squire loitering in the background, the tension building is agonising upon first listen. What is the guitarist of a generation bringing? That pensive stasis soon melts with the rip-roaring Townsend-esque bluesy majesty that follows.The two giants of the rock ‘n’ roll scene, neither with anything to prove, come armed with more attitude than an Eastenders Christmas special. Liam’s opening delivery prowls like a caged tiger waiting to maul its owners to death. A fete that comes with obligingly when Squire’s background licks explode to the fore with the guttural power of Hendrix via The Who and Peter Green alongside thunderous drums.Although the track is about disappointment and not getting what you want, their desire to forge this project and be this expansive evokes a beauty unique to rock ‘n’ roll. The urge to reach heavenwards, to kiss galaxies with their psychedelic power, remains as accurate now as it did in ’89 and ’94. The sense that they have been good for each other in the studio is palpable. Squires playing, sprawling and vast as ever, is given an urgency, a Peter Green and Pete Townsend punchiness that Gallagher has yearned for since ‘Morning Glory’. With a guitarist to match his ability on the mic, once again he can prove he is more than just a snarl. He shows more ethereal and angelic touches to counter the raw power of Squire’s playing, elevating the record to another level. ‘Just Another Rainbow’ is released on the 5th of January. Brace yourselves!travellerstunes.com/review/liam-gallagher-john-squire-just-another-rainbow
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Post by matt on Dec 21, 2023 20:40:39 GMT -5
I can't say I'm too hyped mainly because I don't think Squire has done anything remotely decent since 1990 (although Love Spreads was good). But thats on the assumption its just mainly his songs. I'm hoping for some creative/songwriting input from Liam and Kurstin on this.
But for those who do enjoy his stuff after the Roses peak, I can imagine this is really cool and I hope you are stoked.
I also hope it kick-starts more collaborations for Liam and makes him really comfortable in reaching out. Any established music act would be a fool to deny that voice working with them!
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Post by AllOrNothing on Dec 21, 2023 20:44:42 GMT -5
I can't say I'm too hyped mainly because I don't think Squire has done anything remotely decent since 1990 (although Love Spreads was good). But thats on the assumption its just mainly his songs. I'm hoping for some creative/songwriting input from Liam and Kurstin on this. But for those who do enjoy his stuff after the Roses peak, I can imagine this is really cool and I hope you are stoked. I like Second Coming (although remaining a Self Titled guy forever) but what worries me a bit more is the recent jam Mr. Squire uploaded on twitter. He sounded like a youtube guitarist, very soulless.
I hope it was just a snippet for its own sake and doesn't represent John Squire's works as of 2023, but it bugs me that this was deemed upload worthy.
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Post by powerage09 on Dec 21, 2023 21:05:16 GMT -5
I'm going to address the elephant in the room... Surely this will make an Oasis reunion redundant or at least set it back several years? Liam doing a DM 30th anniversary tour solo while Noel is handing over many millions of divorce monies is probably the biggest indication of how unlikely an Oasis reunion is. Or... it's about timing. Gallagher(s) hand(s) are slightly weaker for DM anniversary than Morning Glory. MG the bigger album, both brothers sing on it, made up a fair chunk of the live set anyway post 98, most of it played live at one time or another. Still time to get the MG anniversary tour together, and, at the risk of upsetting Oasis fans around the world, tour could be done in just 2 - 4 months across a summer. UK stadiums, East & West coast USA, Japan, handful of European festivals, done. Only other territory they might visit is South America I reckon. Depending on the terms of the divorce, NG could replenish a decent chunk of what he paid out, then back to the day job with high flying birds. Just a thought.
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Post by thestylecouncil on Dec 21, 2023 21:26:24 GMT -5
I can't say I'm too hyped mainly because I don't think Squire has done anything remotely decent since 1990 (although Love Spreads was good). But thats on the assumption its just mainly his songs. I'm hoping for some creative/songwriting input from Liam and Kurstin on this. But for those who do enjoy his stuff after the Roses peak, I can imagine this is really cool and I hope you are stoked. I also hope it kick-starts more collaborations for Liam and makes him really comfortable in reaching out. Any established music act would be a fool to deny that voice working with them! I'm not familiar with John's post Stone Roses stuff and don't really have an idea of what he's capable these days, but let's hope that working with Liam and knowing that he has Liam's voice at his disposal has inspired him and has taken his songwriting to new heights
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Post by thuperthonic on Dec 21, 2023 21:35:40 GMT -5
I'm going to address the elephant in the room... Surely this will make an Oasis reunion redundant or at least set it back several years? Yeah, it's not happening. Liam has DM tour and SquireGallagher album, said on twitter he'd be touring it, Noel's recording another album in Jan which will take fucking 50 years so nope. It's probably for the best. Yep, probably the nail in the coffin. Honestly though, good for Liam, he's making amazing things happen.
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Post by thestylecouncil on Dec 21, 2023 21:53:42 GMT -5
Btw since we would usually discuss this topic in a so called hype thread in the facts & fiction section, I felt free to create a new thread "Liam Gallagher and John Squire album HYPE THREAD" in said section: live4ever.proboards.com/thread/94390/liam-gallagher-squire-album-threadIt's not my call obviously, but if you want to you can continue your thoughts on this collab there or maybe this thread here can be merged with the hype thread? mimmihopps
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Post by sheisloved on Dec 21, 2023 22:06:03 GMT -5
I'm going to address the elephant in the room... Surely this will make an Oasis reunion redundant or at least set it back several years? Liam doing a DM 30th anniversary tour solo while Noel is handing over many millions of divorce monies is probably the biggest indication of how unlikely an Oasis reunion is. Not to shift this into Reunion talk again but 2025 for Morning Glorys 30th has always been the last great opportunity. Again not caring at all if it happened or not but that is the year. Their biggest album commercially world wide was Morning Glory.
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Post by sheisloved on Dec 21, 2023 22:12:44 GMT -5
Liam doing a DM 30th anniversary tour solo while Noel is handing over many millions of divorce monies is probably the biggest indication of how unlikely an Oasis reunion is. Not to shift this into Reunion talk again but 2025 for Morning Glorys 30th has always been the last great opportunity. Again not caring at all if it happened or not but that is the year. Their biggest album commercially world wide was Morning Glory. Also Noel is looking rough these days. His face is swollen. He's not eating seeds anymore with the ex. He may even be lowkey depressed. I still think they would both have to be idiots to pass up on the $$$ for Morning Glorys 30th. Glastonbury will definitely be knocking on their door. That last great chance. Either way I'm fine with or without it but by no means is the DM tour opportunity the final nail in the coffen. Morning Glory is the nail.
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Post by jeff122581 on Dec 21, 2023 22:35:57 GMT -5
I like the last few comments on this thread. 30 years MG is definitely their last great chance. I'm coming to London from Boston for 2 shows at the O2, because DM is one of my favorite albums of all time.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Dec 21, 2023 22:57:20 GMT -5
Sounds like Stone Roses doing Cloudburst! Hopefully Gallagher Squire isn't only the band name but also the songwriting credentials. That's Standing Here lol
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Post by darmin on Dec 21, 2023 23:35:58 GMT -5
Not to shift this into Reunion talk again but 2025 for Morning Glorys 30th has always been the last great opportunity. Again not caring at all if it happened or not but that is the year. Their biggest album commercially world wide was Morning Glory. Also Noel is looking rough these days. His face is swollen. He's not eating seeds anymore with the ex. He may even be lowkey depressed. I still think they would both have to be idiots to pass up on the $$$ for Morning Glorys 30th. Glastonbury will definitely be knocking on their door. That last great chance. Either way I'm fine with or without it but by no means is the DM tour opportunity the final nail in the coffen. Morning Glory is the nail. Tbf from what I saw on the fan accounts his ex doesn’t look good either. Aging is bitch and it seems no amount of seeds (and plastic surgery) can stop it in the end.
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Post by andymorris on Dec 22, 2023 1:13:20 GMT -5
I doubt they would go along with a project like that with songwriters for hire. That would be ridiculous. + John Squire has not released something worthy in over 30 years (wow ) so that will be his bug comeback, his statement. His new legacy. So my guess is that new project is mainly his and Liam. Kurstin is just (apparently) the legal obligation in Liam's contract with Warner, in some form (songwriting or producing) I don’t think there would be any legal obligation for Liam and John to go to Greg Kurstin. He’s a well regarded producer, multi instrumentalist and judging by the drummer, can get some talented people on board. Yeaah, i dont know. He's always there, like a mosquito. There's lots of other "big producer" Liam could work with. could be, could be not. Anwyay, Andrew Wyatt, is he ok ? Is he part of it ?
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Post by andymorris on Dec 22, 2023 1:14:33 GMT -5
I joke that I'm one of the 12 people that enjoyed Squire's solo output... A lot of people at the time couldn't get past his voice, but "Joe Louis" and "Shine a Little Light" from the first record are still tracks I go back to fairly often. The second album's production was a little weird (thin and tinny), but the idea was cool - every track based on an Edward Hopper painting. And "Automat" and "Cape Cod Morning" are both solid tunes you can go back to quite easily. He's always been a decent songwriter, a lot of his output just seems to have been let down by its delivery. I know the narrative of "Second Coming" was his cocaine and his ego taking over the sessions that killed the collaborative spirit of the first record, but if you compare the Squire-only tracks to the collaborative ones on "Second Coming," the Squire-only tracks are the bangers. I'm just glad he's got a musical outlet to get ideas out again - as noted earlier in this thread, as great of an artist as he is, it is frustrating to see his guitar and songwriting skills not get the mileage they should have since the turn of the century. I’ve had trouble finding his albums. Especially his debut in America. They're not on streaming services either. I had to go on youtube will all the ads. Cant believe some people listen to music like that, with ads after every song
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Post by andymorris on Dec 22, 2023 1:17:08 GMT -5
Stone Roses fans are like a cult. Think SR are the greatest band of all time and won’t accept any criticism at all. Some even think Brown is a good singer ffs The greatest band of all times is Pulp, everyone knows that. You, here : Enter the Pantheon of Great forum Members.
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