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Post by Sadie on Jun 9, 2022 14:05:19 GMT -5
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jun 9, 2022 14:05:28 GMT -5
I saw Noel supporting Smashing Pumpkins last tour, and honestly was the most underwhelming performance I've ever seen. I agree that separating the songs is a pretty terrible decision in my opinion. I had to wait literally 40 minutes into an hour show to hear anything that I didn't feel was mediocre (I do not personally like WBTM). I would be much more receptive to this new (5 year old material) if it was mixed in, rather than all at once.
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Post by norkbauer on Jun 9, 2022 14:25:36 GMT -5
Of course it would. Everybody's on the Run, Dream On, In the Heat of the Moment, Lock All the Doors, The Dying of the Light, Ballad of the Mighty I, all of these tracks are better and most known than Wandering Star, Rattling Rose and We're On Our Way Now. His powerful set at T in the Park 2015 is a big proof of it. Like I said prior. Maybe he’s tired of playing songs from an album 8 years ago or a bunch of old Oasis songs like EOTR, Dream On, Lock All The Doors, etc. Who knows. He does seem happy so that is one positive. It’s just festival shows. Yeah, it makes sense, but he's also playing exactly the same Oasis songs he did in his first solo tour from a decade ago (except for SCYHO). He's not tired of playing Whatever, Half the World Away and Little by Little? All great songs, but Noel has a lot of other great tunes to refresh his sets. I remember when he used to play Fade Away, Champagne Supernova and Digsy's Dinner, when he brought back Listen Up and The Masterplan, and this was in a moment where Liam was totally off the business. Now looks like he's giving people what he wants them to listen, and if you want some innovation, go to see my brother. This is boring, ffs.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 9, 2022 15:17:12 GMT -5
He's all over the internet today poking at Noel. Interesting the degree to which it still drives him ...
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Post by megyesitomate on Jun 9, 2022 16:21:56 GMT -5
Watch this starting at 46:50 and it all makes sense about Noel's feelings about the modern setlist: To be honest, I'd be perfectly happy if he only played songs from WBTM and his EPs but I understand that he needs to play some Oasis classic. But why not refresh them a little bit then? I'm sure he's creative and talented enough to change up the arrangement or something. His Champagne Supernova and Supersonic """covers""", for example, were different but still really good. That way he can satisfy his own needs since he's at a different musical stage of his life (whatever that means) and the crowd still gets what it wants.
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Post by walkersafc on Jun 9, 2022 16:41:46 GMT -5
Just left Newcastle gig. Really, really good. Noel sounded brilliant. Obviously the first part of the set mainly WBTM. They all went down pretty well to be honest but Rattling Rose and wandering star didn’t. Gig really got going at Dead in the water. If I had a gun was in the encore. Not sure if was last night. Finished on DLBIA no mighty Quinn. Really enjoyed it but needs to change the first half of the set and take out Keep On Reaching, rattling rose and wandering star. The drums got ballsed up on one song . Can’t remember which one now. I think stop crying your heart out but could be wrong. It was an oasis song
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 9, 2022 17:50:25 GMT -5
I absolutely love You Know We Can't Go Back, it's one of my favourites from Noel. It has good energy. Fast tempo Noel is always good. Can’t stand when he’s mid tempo mode. Boring!!! Yeah, I agree the song does have good energy. As for Noel's mid tempo stuff it can be a bit boring at times.
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Post by drummert5 on Jun 9, 2022 17:51:26 GMT -5
Just left Newcastle gig. Really, really good. Noel sounded brilliant. Obviously the first part of the set mainly WBTM. They all went down pretty well to be honest but Rattling Rose and wandering star didn’t. Gig really got going at Dead in the water. If I had a gun was in the encore. Not sure if was last night. Finished on DLBIA no mighty Quinn. Really enjoyed it but needs to change the first half of the set and take out Keep On Reaching, rattling rose and wandering star. The drums got ballsed up on one song . Can’t remember which one now. I think stop crying your heart out but could be wrong. It was an oasis song Glad to hear it was a great show! I know everyone here was hoping for a bigger change from 2019, so was I, but that needn’t take away that it’s a good set anyway.
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Post by ianstanley87 on Jun 9, 2022 19:09:34 GMT -5
Recorded the Newcastle gig, audio and some 4K videos. Just editing now
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Post by RUBIKON on Jun 10, 2022 1:28:46 GMT -5
Recorded the Newcastle gig, audio and some 4K videos. Just editing now Great!
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Post by mouth on Jun 10, 2022 5:18:19 GMT -5
it's funny how people believe that "he lost it". he didn't lose anything. the state he's at now his purely by his own choice. for whatever reason he was tired of what he was doing before and decided to go a different way. he says he just doesn't care about chart success anymore (he still cares about money though, clearly), and i truly believe him. he doesn't give a fuck about what poeple expect him to do or how anyone rates his music. and with that probably comes to not change the bloody setlist for 25 years. i feel no desire to ever attend a noel gig in my life anymore, until he changes his fucking setlist dramatically and stops butchering his own classics into music for lonely housewives.
with that being said, it's also amusing how some try to draw a connection between liam's success and noel's approach on his music or his personal state of mind. why would he give a fuck? let's be realistic, liam's desperately needed that kind of success to draw himself out of his misery. if his first album would have flopped commercially, liam might have been on "i'm a celebrity..." already to pay his bills and his ex wives and his love child and... whatever else there is to pay from his past. noel financially is a solid as it gets. what he's doing now musically, is only what he wants to do. he even might be thankful for liam having a career again, so he's not constantly bothering him over twitter to get oasis back together.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jun 10, 2022 5:19:58 GMT -5
Recorded the Newcastle gig, audio and some 4K videos. Just editing now nice one
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Post by ianstanley87 on Jun 10, 2022 5:39:51 GMT -5
Still got a few more videos to edit and sync and finish off the audio but this is what I've got for now
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Post by welshylad on Jun 10, 2022 14:58:53 GMT -5
Recorded the Newcastle gig, audio and some 4K videos. Just editing now Brilliant mate, thanks in advance
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Post by glider on Jun 10, 2022 23:29:03 GMT -5
This whole debate on the last few pages is all a bit silly. Why is "Who Built the Moon?" still considered his new material? The album is FIVE years old already. Liam's setlists from his latest gigs had Wall of Glass only on it from the first album, which is also FIVE years old (discounting the obvious Oasis classics at every gig). The EP tracks as well are already three years old. Covid pause or not, any album material he plays now is old songs. If he wants to play "new" stuff then he better start debuting his new songs for the next album now. He has no excuse not playing "older" deep cuts or whatnot because the bulk of his current setlist is nothing but old material anyway. I'd prefer we hear actual new songs at this point rather than nonsense like Wandering Star which is abysmal in my opinion.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 11, 2022 6:42:36 GMT -5
The funny thing to me about this thread is that in a few more months, quick summer tour long over, there will be fresh singles and whole new album chock full of songs coming ... and this whole conversation will quickly become a forgotten relic ... Patience, young grasshoppers.
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Post by Heynow2005 on Jun 11, 2022 14:41:19 GMT -5
The funny thing to me about this thread is that in a few more months, quick summer tour long over, there will be fresh singles and whole new album chock full of songs coming ... and this whole conversation will quickly become a forgotten relic ... Patience, young grasshoppers. Until he goes on tour and trots out basically the same setlist...
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Post by norkbauer on Jun 11, 2022 23:21:20 GMT -5
The funny thing to me about this thread is that in a few more months, quick summer tour long over, there will be fresh singles and whole new album chock full of songs coming ... and this whole conversation will quickly become a forgotten relic ... Patience, young grasshoppers. Until he goes on tour and trots out basically the same setlist... I can see clearly he replacing Keep on Reaching, Wandering Star and Rattling Rose for three new songs while the rest of the set is still the same.
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Post by Heynow2005 on Jun 12, 2022 12:18:22 GMT -5
The one interesting choice in set "the mighty quinn" dropped after 2 gigs( only performed at one but he had intended it in Wales so will allow it) so frustrating when he's got such a varied back catalogue across Oasis/NGHFB and any number of covers
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 12, 2022 12:21:31 GMT -5
The one interesting choice in set "the mighty quinn" dropped after 2 gigs( only performed at one but he had intended it in Wales so will allow it) so frustrating when he's got such a varied back catalogue across Oasis/NGHFB and any number of covers Of all the Dylan songs I wish he would pick something else.
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Post by sickbhoy on Jun 12, 2022 12:46:51 GMT -5
The one interesting choice in set "the mighty quinn" dropped after 2 gigs( only performed at one but he had intended it in Wales so will allow it) so frustrating when he's got such a varied back catalogue across Oasis/NGHFB and any number of covers Gutted he dropped that last night
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 12, 2022 16:35:10 GMT -5
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Post by Sadie on Jun 12, 2022 17:58:58 GMT -5
Seeing those setlists together like that makes it even more embarrassing that he's quite so reluctant to change things up. As people have said, forget the fans - is HE not even remotely bored of playing the same thing night in night out for 5 years?
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 12, 2022 18:43:24 GMT -5
I get people wishing for a setlist more to their tastes, but given that he has not toured in 3 years, it’s a bit much to say he’s been playing the same thing night in and night out for 5. He hasn't played ANYTHING in a very long time! And I'm sure he's not nearly as bored as he was sitting on the couch, drinking wine and complaining about masks for 2 years ...
He’s obviously playing what feels best to him right now, in a pretty weird moment just after the pandemic when he wanted to get back on the road, yet before his new album, which presumably is more where his head is at.
Lucky he doesn't read here, because if he did, he'd probably come out in 2023 and just play the new album, and only the new album, top to bottom, just to watch people's heads explode.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 12, 2022 19:07:07 GMT -5
I cant wait until a year from now when we debate why Noel isn’t playing his new single “Pretty Boy” or why “Trying to Find A World that’s been and gone (part 2)” made the album but part 1 didn’t. That cant come soon enough.
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