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Post by OasisFan199 on Dec 5, 2021 20:56:59 GMT -5
So. Oasis’ previous box sets are selling for hundreds on eBay. I’m wondering about pickup a few knebworth copies of the deluxe box. And holding for a year or so. And selling. I bet for bands like oasis, nirvana, u2, smiths, there is real $$ to be made. Thoughts?
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Dec 6, 2021 8:12:05 GMT -5
Or how about you just buy one for yourself and don’t become a scalper charging genuine fans a fortune just because they couldn’t afford something or weren’t around at the time?
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 6, 2021 11:16:14 GMT -5
Or how about you just buy one for yourself and don’t become a scalper charging genuine fans a fortune just because they couldn’t afford something or weren’t around at the time? Well said!
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Post by Jim on Dec 6, 2021 14:09:28 GMT -5
Or how about you just buy one for yourself and don’t become a scalper charging genuine fans a fortune just because they couldn’t afford something or weren’t around at the time? Very well said.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 6, 2021 14:11:27 GMT -5
Or how about you just buy one for yourself and don’t become a scalper charging genuine fans a fortune just because they couldn’t afford something or weren’t around at the time? Agreed.
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Post by theunderclass on Dec 6, 2021 21:03:00 GMT -5
Or how about you just buy one for yourself and don’t become a scalper charging genuine fans a fortune just because they couldn’t afford something or weren’t around at the time? Exactly what I was thinking!
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Post by fluff123 on Dec 8, 2021 3:20:30 GMT -5
Or how about you just buy one for yourself and don’t become a scalper charging genuine fans a fortune just because they couldn’t afford something or weren’t around at the time? Well said! Exactly this!!! It's no different to selling concert tickets for 3 times face value. Completely immoral. Just wrong.
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Post by electricsunday on Dec 8, 2021 11:14:08 GMT -5
If you want to invest your money why not download an investing app and buy stock from some startup companies that are creating useful products and need capital. You'd be contributing to society instead of just being a dick.
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Post by megyesitomate on Dec 8, 2021 12:04:31 GMT -5
You wouldn't make much more than a couple hundred pounds over the course of 3-4 years anyway, so why ruin the fun for actual fans? Get a job.
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Post by electricsunday on Dec 8, 2021 18:07:36 GMT -5
I've thought about this some more and now I don't agree with my initial post. Well, kind of, but it's not that simple.
Imagine there's no resellers. Every one of these items went to the home of a real fan who legit wanted it, and anyone who decided to sell theirs later on sold it back at an equitable price. How easy do you think it would be at this point to buy a BHN deluxe set? Still sealed or otherwise?
You couldn't. It would be all but literally impossible to ever acquire again, because eventually every single unit would be in the possession of someone who still wanted it and had no intention of ever letting it go. Unless someone left it to you in their will or their mom unwittingly put it up in a garage sale you'd have to suck it up and move on.
I would rather have the option of letting someone rob me than have no chance at ever getting the item at all. I feel bad for the fan who would have otherwise bought it at the original price, but who deserves it more, the fan who was there at the right time with enough money, or the fan who wants it badly enough to pay hundreds for it?
I'm not saying resellers are acting out of the goodness of their heart. They're mosquitoes. But they're also providing an opportunity that wouldn't otherwise exist.
Save some blame for the record companies who create artificial scarcity by producing these in such "limited" quantities in the first place. It's not like the current game console kerfuffle where Sony and Microsoft are legitimately dealing with a chip shortage and covid and resellers are grabbing up what little bit of stock comes through the cracks. The record company could have made as many copies of these sets as they needed to keep the demand from going that high.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Dec 9, 2021 5:24:27 GMT -5
I've thought about this some more and now I don't agree with my initial post. Well, kind of, but it's not that simple. Imagine there's no resellers. Every one of these items went to the home of a real fan who legit wanted it, and anyone who decided to sell theirs later on sold it back at an equitable price. How easy do you think it would be at this point to buy a BHN deluxe set? Still sealed or otherwise? You couldn't. It would be all but literally impossible to ever acquire again, because eventually every single unit would be in the possession of someone who still wanted it and had no intention of ever letting it go. Unless someone left it to you in their will or their mom unwittingly put it up in a garage sale you'd have to suck it up and move on. I would rather have the option of letting someone rob me than have no chance at ever getting the item at all. I feel bad for the fan who would have otherwise bought it at the original price, but who deserves it more, the fan who was there at the right time with enough money, or the fan who wants it badly enough to pay hundreds for it? I'm not saying resellers are acting out of the goodness of their heart. They're mosquitoes. But they're also providing an opportunity that wouldn't otherwise exist. Save some blame for the record companies who create artificial scarcity by producing these in such "limited" quantities in the first place. It's not like the current game console kerfuffle where Sony and Microsoft are legitimately dealing with a chip shortage and covid and resellers are grabbing up what little bit of stock comes through the cracks. The record company could have made as many copies of these sets as they needed to keep the demand from going that high. Record companies don’t know how well these will sell. Nobody wants oodles of inventory in a warehouse costing them money that they might have to sell off at a reduced price losing them money per unit rather than making money. Buy what you need and move on.
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Post by electricsunday on Dec 9, 2021 8:37:51 GMT -5
That's true but only to an extent. They still know these will sell out sooner or later. They underproduce because they want you to panic and buy it as quickly as possible.
ETA I get it, these boxes are huge and the production costs must be high. I don't want to stick with this point and make a huge deal of it. I just wish it didn't have to be like this.
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 9, 2021 8:57:16 GMT -5
The thoughts by original poster makes me sick and it reminds me idiots who grab bootlegs on this forum to sell them on ebay for easy cash.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 9, 2021 13:46:53 GMT -5
I've thought about this some more and now I don't agree with my initial post. Well, kind of, but it's not that simple. Imagine there's no resellers. Every one of these items went to the home of a real fan who legit wanted it, and anyone who decided to sell theirs later on sold it back at an equitable price. How easy do you think it would be at this point to buy a BHN deluxe set? Still sealed or otherwise? You couldn't. It would be all but literally impossible to ever acquire again, because eventually every single unit would be in the possession of someone who still wanted it and had no intention of ever letting it go. Unless someone left it to you in their will or their mom unwittingly put it up in a garage sale you'd have to suck it up and move on. I would rather have the option of letting someone rob me than have no chance at ever getting the item at all. I feel bad for the fan who would have otherwise bought it at the original price, but who deserves it more, the fan who was there at the right time with enough money, or the fan who wants it badly enough to pay hundreds for it? I'm not saying resellers are acting out of the goodness of their heart. They're mosquitoes. But they're also providing an opportunity that wouldn't otherwise exist. Save some blame for the record companies who create artificial scarcity by producing these in such "limited" quantities in the first place. It's not like the current game console kerfuffle where Sony and Microsoft are legitimately dealing with a chip shortage and covid and resellers are grabbing up what little bit of stock comes through the cracks. The record company could have made as many copies of these sets as they needed to keep the demand from going that high. But these sellers on eBay can charge way too much just for one cd which has been released or a vinyl album. EBay sellers can be a big rip off and I would never line their pockets hundreds or even thousands of pounds just for one item.
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Post by electricsunday on Dec 10, 2021 0:25:40 GMT -5
I've thought about this some more and now I don't agree with my initial post. Well, kind of, but it's not that simple. Imagine there's no resellers. Every one of these items went to the home of a real fan who legit wanted it, and anyone who decided to sell theirs later on sold it back at an equitable price. How easy do you think it would be at this point to buy a BHN deluxe set? Still sealed or otherwise? You couldn't. It would be all but literally impossible to ever acquire again, because eventually every single unit would be in the possession of someone who still wanted it and had no intention of ever letting it go. Unless someone left it to you in their will or their mom unwittingly put it up in a garage sale you'd have to suck it up and move on. I would rather have the option of letting someone rob me than have no chance at ever getting the item at all. I feel bad for the fan who would have otherwise bought it at the original price, but who deserves it more, the fan who was there at the right time with enough money, or the fan who wants it badly enough to pay hundreds for it? I'm not saying resellers are acting out of the goodness of their heart. They're mosquitoes. But they're also providing an opportunity that wouldn't otherwise exist. Save some blame for the record companies who create artificial scarcity by producing these in such "limited" quantities in the first place. It's not like the current game console kerfuffle where Sony and Microsoft are legitimately dealing with a chip shortage and covid and resellers are grabbing up what little bit of stock comes through the cracks. The record company could have made as many copies of these sets as they needed to keep the demand from going that high. But these sellers on eBay can charge way too much just for one cd which has been released or a vinyl album. EBay sellers can be a big rip off and I would never line their pockets hundreds or even thousands of pounds just for one item. Have you ever heard it said that the true value of something is whatever amount people are willing to pay for it? Who decides how much is "way too much?"
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Post by jezza2 on Dec 10, 2021 10:37:36 GMT -5
But these sellers on eBay can charge way too much just for one cd which has been released or a vinyl album. EBay sellers can be a big rip off and I would never line their pockets hundreds or even thousands of pounds just for one item. Have you ever heard it said that the true value of something is whatever amount people are willing to pay for it? Who decides how much is "way too much?" HAHAHAHAHA. You know what’s way too much? Anything over $133. If the official shop has the super delux at $133, then that’s your budget, not $250 on eBay. shop.oasisinet.com/product/84829 Don’t be greedy and don’t feed off of desperate people. You see it enough in other communities.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 10, 2021 13:35:22 GMT -5
But these sellers on eBay can charge way too much just for one cd which has been released or a vinyl album. EBay sellers can be a big rip off and I would never line their pockets hundreds or even thousands of pounds just for one item. Have you ever heard it said that the true value of something is whatever amount people are willing to pay for it? Who decides how much is "way too much?" Of course it's way too much and some of these ebay sellers are just greedy and nothing more. Especially when an official release of an album is so easy to get hold of anyway, like the new Oasis live at Knebworth release. Some of these sellers are just money grabbers and don't give a shit about the real fans.
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Post by electricsunday on Dec 10, 2021 14:27:30 GMT -5
Have you ever heard it said that the true value of something is whatever amount people are willing to pay for it? Who decides how much is "way too much?" HAHAHAHAHA. You know what’s way too much? Anything over $133. If the official shop has the super delux at $133, then that’s your budget, not $250 on eBay. shop.oasisinet.com/product/84829 Don’t be greedy and don’t feed off of desperate people. You see it enough in other communities. Well ... yes, that applies for right now. I haven't looked on eBay for the Knebworth set. I'm not surprised if there's already people hawking it for $250. I'm talking about a few years from now when getting it from the official store is no longer an option. And your wording seems to imply that I'm on the supply end of this, which I assure you I'm not.
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Post by electricsunday on Dec 10, 2021 14:29:01 GMT -5
Have you ever heard it said that the true value of something is whatever amount people are willing to pay for it? Who decides how much is "way too much?" Of course it's way too much and some of these ebay sellers are just greedy and nothing more. Especially when an official release of an album is so easy to get hold of anyway, like the new Oasis live at Knebworth release. Some of these sellers are just money grabbers and don't give a shit about the real fans. I've already called them mosquitoes and said they're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart so I'm not sure why you're telling me this.
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Post by Sadie on Dec 10, 2021 14:53:27 GMT -5
This reminds me of the kind of people who sell rare t-shirts on ebay for £100+, I get that they're rare but that's taking the piss
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Post by Flashbax on Dec 11, 2021 4:22:48 GMT -5
It's funny that they made way too many Dig Out Your Soul boxsets, you can almost get them for free now. I wish bands did that more often. I mean, all those boxsets that came after that one are way too expensive now.
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Post by electricsunday on Dec 11, 2021 13:34:40 GMT -5
It's funny that they made way too many Dig Out Your Soul boxsets, you can almost get them for free now. I wish bands did that more often. I mean, all those boxsets that came after that one are way too expensive now. Ikr? I look at those now and laugh at myself for being in a rush to buy it when it was new. And the language they used on the order page for "your selection" like it was a classy high end item. Now mine's got the adhesive wearing off on the side and I've barely ever touched it.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 11, 2021 13:41:13 GMT -5
Of course it's way too much and some of these ebay sellers are just greedy and nothing more. Especially when an official release of an album is so easy to get hold of anyway, like the new Oasis live at Knebworth release. Some of these sellers are just money grabbers and don't give a shit about the real fans. I've already called them mosquitoes and said they're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart so I'm not sure why you're telling me this. Well then why do you keep going on about it then. I know that I wouldn't pay hundreds of pounds or thousands even on ebay no matter how rare an item was.
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Post by tiger40 on Dec 11, 2021 13:42:05 GMT -5
This reminds me of the kind of people who sell rare t-shirts on ebay for £100+, I get that they're rare but that's taking the piss Exactly my point.
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Post by electricsunday on Dec 14, 2021 12:56:30 GMT -5
I've already called them mosquitoes and said they're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart so I'm not sure why you're telling me this. Well then why do you keep going on about it then. I know that I wouldn't pay hundreds of pounds or thousands even on ebay no matter how rare an item was. Basically just saying they're a necessary evil. You might never do that, but if someone has the means and wants it that badly, it's their own choice and I'd rather they have the option. And that it's all relative. A lot of people would call me insane for paying just the original price for a deluxe set of an album I already have multiple versions of.
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