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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 28, 2021 18:12:37 GMT -5
Maybe a song that used to be among your favourites, but now you just barely like? Or one you used to quite like but now hate?
In short; which Oasis song (i.e. no post-Oasis works) has decreased in approval more than any other for you, and why?
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 28, 2021 18:31:25 GMT -5
My personal vote goes to Hey Now. It's one I listened to loads from being 6 to being about 15, but is now the one thing I skip on WTSMG. I find a lot of the lyrics awkwardly clunky, and musically it's not bad but nothing too memorable IMO.
An honourable mention goes to Force Of Nature. From a neutral POV I now consider HC their weakest album, but it will always be my introduction to them. And while I now see FON as one of their weakest tracks, unlike HC's other fillers I admittedly did think that one was OK for a few years, though I never adored it.
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Post by DrSnowbody on Sept 28, 2021 19:24:30 GMT -5
Maybe... I'm Outta Time. I think is a very good song but no one of the best songs of Oasis, at least not above the best 50 Oasis song.
And one more... All Around The World, I love this one, but with the hurt of my heart and with the past of time, you understand that isn't a great song that appesrs to be.
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Post by Flashbax on Sept 29, 2021 1:57:47 GMT -5
I used to love Force of Nature and Little by Little.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 29, 2021 4:30:19 GMT -5
I used to love Force of Nature and Little by Little. Yeah Little by Little may be in the top 5 ive gone off. The reason being that as a little kid, i thought the verses sounded so clever and found that cool. Whereas now it sounds like Noel trying too hard to be poetic/intellectual that I find those parts almost parody, and a tough listen. But I still absolutely love the chorus, so even now i spin it sometimes. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 29, 2021 4:39:48 GMT -5
Maybe... I'm Outta Time. I think is a very good song but no one of the best songs of Oasis, at least not above the best 50 Oasis song. And one more... All Around The World, I love this one, but with the hurt of my heart and with the past of time, you understand that isn't a great song that appesrs to be. Interesting…..id say Im about where Ive always been with IOT; i find it one of Liam’s best-written songs and one of their more unique singles of the 2000s, but not a masterpiece. Ive maybe gone off AATW a tad; i used to think that was utterly amazing. I still really like it, but the verses could perhaps be more memorable and the last 4 minutes go on at least 1 min too long. It could be about 8:15 in length rather than 9:38. Of all their 27 singles Id rank it about halfway down. |
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Post by beentherenow on Sept 29, 2021 7:35:58 GMT -5
Yeah maybe All Around The World
I still like it but I used to love it! Maybe 15 years or so ago it’d have been top 5 now I doubt it’d be top 25.
Good song but not quite as amazing as I once thought
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Post by The Escapist on Sept 29, 2021 10:11:46 GMT -5
I honestly don't think there are any.
Oasis have that kind of instant magic to them where you're much more likely to have a song grow on you than the opposite - if something is brilliant about an Oasis song, you'll hear it first time. That's part of the genius.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 29, 2021 10:18:09 GMT -5
I honestly don't think there are any. Oasis have that kind of instant magic to them where you're much more likely to have a song grow on you than the opposite - if something is brilliant about an Oasis song, you'll hear it first time. That's part of the genius. I dont disagree……but i already made that thread last year 🤣 |
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Post by matt on Sept 29, 2021 10:19:56 GMT -5
Once more, All Around The World.
It was my favourite, and I loved the kitchen sink approach. These days, I do think it could do tidying up. I still love it, but it's not the masterpiece in the way another epic like Champagne Supernova is regarded.
But the flaws of it are what make me laugh when listening, so it's always endearing. In fairness, I listen to it all the time and never think 'they lost the plot here' - all I think of is that the harsh reaction the album got completely wiped out any hint of ambition from Noel going forward. Sad to say, but that song I see it as the end of an era in that Oasis never wrote any epic songs after that, resorting to the even more derivative bland landfill indie fodder of the mid-2000s.
Amazingly, it took 20 years, when David Homes finally gave Noel the kick up the arse he needed in terms of recording ambition.
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 29, 2021 13:02:09 GMT -5
Nearly the whole of Be Here Now apart from D'You Know What I Mean?,My Big Mouth, I Hope I Think I Know, Fade In Out and Don't Go Away. I used to love the album back in the 90s and early 2000s but quickly went off it and now it's Oasis's worst album for me.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 29, 2021 17:32:09 GMT -5
Nearly the whole of Be Here Now apart from D'You Know What I Mean?,My Big Mouth, I Hope I Think I Know, Fade In Out and Don't Go Away. I used to love the album back in the 90s and early 2000s but quickly went off it and now it's Oasis's worst album for me. Really...interesting to hear as it's probably the album that's grown on me the most. A lot of songs like My Big Mouth, It's Gettin Better Man and The Girl In The Dirty Shirt I didn't really like when I first heard them as a 7-year-old in 2003, but really like now (although IGBM is overlong). Always did like I Hope I Think I Know and Don't Go Away, and never loved the title track or Fade In Out. If theres a song ive gone off on that album its probably DYKWIM. But most of all, I didn't really rate Stand by Me that high as a kid, whereas it's now my 2nd favourite Oasis song. Maybe it helps that I wasn't a fan back in the day. As the album I loved because it was my introduction to them was Heathen Chemistry, but I now find that to be their weakest. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 29, 2021 17:44:41 GMT -5
Once more, All Around The World. It was my favourite, and I loved the kitchen sink approach. These days, I do think it could do tidying up. I still love it, but it's not the masterpiece in the way another epic like Champagne Supernova is regarded. But the flaws of it are what make me laugh when listening, so it's always endearing. In fairness, I listen to it all the time and never think 'they lost the plot here' - all I think of is that the harsh reaction the album got completely wiped out any hint of ambition from Noel going forward. Sad to say, but that song I see it as the end of an era in that Oasis never wrote any epic songs after that, resorting to the even more derivative bland landfill indie fodder of the mid-2000s. Amazingly, it took 20 years, when David Homes finally gave Noel the kick up the arse he needed in terms of recording ambition. Yeah i get where youre coming from. I personally always considered the relative failure of SOTSOG, a conscious attempt to change direction, as the end of that ambition. As while it isn't 7 or 8 minutes long, Gas Panic always felt like an epic. Also heard some call Roll It Over an epic though Im not as sure about that. I'm not saying the songwriting dipped post-2000, but they did sort of settle into a genre niche after it. I don't rate WBTM? as highly as some other fans like you did (maybe a 6.5-7/10), but I can't deny the ambition is there for sure. |
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Post by beentherenow on Sept 30, 2021 7:51:59 GMT -5
Once more, All Around The World. It was my favourite, and I loved the kitchen sink approach. These days, I do think it could do tidying up. I still love it, but it's not the masterpiece in the way another epic like Champagne Supernova is regarded. But the flaws of it are what make me laugh when listening, so it's always endearing. In fairness, I listen to it all the time and never think 'they lost the plot here' - all I think of is that the harsh reaction the album got completely wiped out any hint of ambition from Noel going forward. Sad to say, but that song I see it as the end of an era in that Oasis never wrote any epic songs after that, resorting to the even more derivative bland landfill indie fodder of the mid-2000s. Amazingly, it took 20 years, when David Homes finally gave Noel the kick up the arse he needed in terms of recording ambition. Yeah i get where youre coming from. I personally always considered the relative failure of SOTSOG, a conscious attempt to change direction, as the end of that ambition. As while it isn't 7 or 8 minutes long, Gas Panic always felt like an epic. Also heard some call Roll It Over an epic though Im not as sure about that. I'm not saying the songwriting dipped post-2000, but they did sort of settle into a genre niche after it. I don't rate WBTM? as highly as some other fans like you did (maybe a 6.5-7/10), but I can't deny the ambition is there for sure. Yeah totally agree. SOTSOG is arguably their most ambitious album sound wise and feels like the natural progression following the post 90’s comedown. Everything after felt like a forced attempt to recapture the 90’s. DOYS has serious moments of striving for more but is majorly let down by the final 1/3 |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 30, 2021 9:28:16 GMT -5
I used to be a fan of Sunday Morning Call, now I don't hate it but rarely go back to it, as opposed to WDIAGW which is great
Whatever too, not that I don't like it but I don't listen to it as much
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Post by tiger40 on Sept 30, 2021 13:12:09 GMT -5
Nearly the whole of Be Here Now apart from D'You Know What I Mean?,My Big Mouth, I Hope I Think I Know, Fade In Out and Don't Go Away. I used to love the album back in the 90s and early 2000s but quickly went off it and now it's Oasis's worst album for me. Really...interesting to hear as it's probably the album that's grown on me the most. A lot of songs like My Big Mouth, It's Gettin Better Man and The Girl In The Dirty Shirt I didn't really like when I first heard them as a 7-year-old in 2003, but really like now (although IGBM is overlong). Always did like I Hope I Think I Know and Don't Go Away, and never loved the title track or Fade In Out. If theres a song ive gone off on that album its probably DYKWIM. But most of all, I didn't really rate Stand by Me that high as a kid, whereas it's now my 2nd favourite Oasis song. Maybe it helps that I wasn't a fan back in the day. As the album I loved because it was my introduction to them was Heathen Chemistry, but I now find that to be their weakest. The problem I find with Be Here Now is that it's far too over blown for me and I find most of the songs a bit boring after a while because they just go on for too long. It's certainly an album which I never go back to these days. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 30, 2021 16:51:13 GMT -5
I used to be a fan of Sunday Morning Call, now I don't hate it but rarely go back to it, as opposed to WDIAGW which is great Whatever too, not that I don't like it but I don't listen to it as much Yeah Sunday Morning Call i never liked, always found it a bit boring although I wasn't a fan yet when it came out (only 4 then haha), so never having a nostalgic connection to it may help. Whatever is one I've always had a question mark over. It seems to be considered in that tier of singles that aren't the treasures (WW, DLBIA, LF, maybe C&A) but are still iconic hits, like Some Might Say, Roll With It, Supersonic and Stand By Me. And while I like it and the strings are a nice touch, I never really saw it as on the level of those others. So my view hasn't really changed on it. |
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Post by catsnake on Sept 30, 2021 17:50:07 GMT -5
Really...interesting to hear as it's probably the album that's grown on me the most. A lot of songs like My Big Mouth, It's Gettin Better Man and The Girl In The Dirty Shirt I didn't really like when I first heard them as a 7-year-old in 2003, but really like now (although IGBM is overlong). Always did like I Hope I Think I Know and Don't Go Away, and never loved the title track or Fade In Out. If theres a song ive gone off on that album its probably DYKWIM. But most of all, I didn't really rate Stand by Me that high as a kid, whereas it's now my 2nd favourite Oasis song. Maybe it helps that I wasn't a fan back in the day. As the album I loved because it was my introduction to them was Heathen Chemistry, but I now find that to be their weakest. The problem I find with Be Here Now is that it's far too over blown for me and I find most of the songs a bit boring after a while because they just go on for too long. It's certainly an album which I never go back to these days. I know exactly what you mean. It is overblown and over produced. Fade in out is a brilliant track live but the album version just doesn’t quite hit the mark. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Sept 30, 2021 18:02:34 GMT -5
The problem I find with Be Here Now is that it's far too over blown for me and I find most of the songs a bit boring after a while because they just go on for too long. It's certainly an album which I never go back to these days. I know exactly what you mean. It is overblown and over produced. Fade in out is a brilliant track live but the album version just doesn’t quite hit the mark. Along with the title track its one of my 2 least favourites on the album so I dont really like the song much at all. But I will admit that with both of those, I enjoyed live versions better. As far as the length/overproduction goes, id say DKYWIM, Magic Pie, Fade In Out, AATW and IGBM are all about 1 minute too long. DYKWIM, MP and AATW are over-arranged, and the mixing of a lot of tracks is too messy. If I was re-mixing/editing it, the songs that I'd keep the same would be IHITIK, DGA, TGITDS, and possibly SBM (can't decide if I'd turn down the guitars toward the end to hear the strings). |
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Post by jeffrey on Sept 30, 2021 18:40:31 GMT -5
Not going to be a popular take, but I’d have to go with DLBIA. Not really sure why? Maybe I’ve heard it too much… I never play it.
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Post by megyesitomate on Sept 30, 2021 19:30:45 GMT -5
Not going to be a popular take, but I’d have to go with DLBIA. Not really sure why? Maybe I’ve heard it too much… I never play it. Was just about to say that myself as well. Used to my favourite song when I was starting to get into Oasis but couldn't be bothered to give it a listen nowadays. |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Oct 1, 2021 6:12:05 GMT -5
Not going to be a popular take, but I’d have to go with DLBIA. Not really sure why? Maybe I’ve heard it too much… I never play it. Was just about to say that myself as well. Used to my favourite song when I was starting to get into Oasis but couldn't be bothered to give it a listen nowadays. Cool shout….i think what’s stopped me going off it is that unlike many people, I never particularly adored it. I really like it, just not as much as the other most treasured songs like Wonderwall, Live Forever, C&A and CS. |
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Post by tiger40 on Oct 1, 2021 13:45:59 GMT -5
The problem I find with Be Here Now is that it's far too over blown for me and I find most of the songs a bit boring after a while because they just go on for too long. It's certainly an album which I never go back to these days. I know exactly what you mean. It is overblown and over produced. Fade in out is a brilliant track live but the album version just doesn’t quite hit the mark. Yeah, the live version of Fade In Out is good but I've always liked the album version too. |
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Post by Aman on Oct 2, 2021 9:08:21 GMT -5
Not going to be a popular take, but I’d have to go with DLBIA. Not really sure why? Maybe I’ve heard it too much… I never play it. Yeah same. |
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Post by powerage09 on Oct 2, 2021 12:45:54 GMT -5
Morning Glory. Used to love it but now it takes up valuable space in setlists IMO.
The chorus is mega though, just heard it too many times.
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