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Post by jh on May 8, 2021 6:02:27 GMT -5
Official music video released for this utterly beautiful ballad. Noel, you’ve done it again. A literal God-Like genius. Heavenly. I feel like an utter hypocrite now...but F me it is a decent song. First listen I thought OK...but it is such a brilliantly sad song. Been singing it all frigging week |
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 8, 2021 8:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Jessica on May 8, 2021 8:38:11 GMT -5
Should have asked that second to last question to the others... Did feel like there was a slight connection to the Blue Moon Rising video.
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Post by Flashbax on May 8, 2021 9:39:53 GMT -5
Good to see prince Phillip in the video. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 10, 2021 17:57:04 GMT -5
We’ll all be saying why wasn’t this on the 4th album.... inevitable.
Still in absolute love with this song.
Too fucking good, Noel.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 10, 2021 19:06:26 GMT -5
We’ll all be saying why wasn’t this on the 4th album.... inevitable. Still in absolute love with this song. Too fucking good, Noel. Nah......I trust Noel to write even more good material. This is older stuff. |
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Post by The Escapist on May 11, 2021 8:01:47 GMT -5
It's a lovely tune, but I do hope LP4 doesn't have the same vibes. Want Noel to keep pushing out there, my secret dream for this guitar-driven sound is that we finally get some shoegaze Noel. His falsetto vocals would work really beautifully in a haze of guitars, and it'd be a great way to bring guitars back to the fore without just being a middle-aged man version of Oasis. If not full shoegaze, something like this fucking banger would be good:
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 11, 2021 8:14:05 GMT -5
Him describing this as one of his most traditional sounding tunes makes me feel quite confident about the fact that he's comfortable pushing it a bit more and he knows he can do it now
I don't expect WBTM part 2 because I'm not sure he could do that as his own producer but I'd be surprised if LP4 was a complete u-turn, he's mentioned how working with Holmes and making it a habit to write into the studio has influenced him so I'm definitely excited to see how that translates into the music
Said all this, if the traditional stuff he puts out is on pair with this, or if he even managed to match the Dead In The Water peak once again, I'd be very happy
I don't really want anything from Noel as long as it's good music at this point, but it's great to be in a position where you don't really know what to expect from HFB, it wasn't a given when Album #1 came out
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Post by LlAM on May 11, 2021 10:16:43 GMT -5
This song is another great example of how Noel can compose picturesque lyrics and haunting melodies.
The "Good luck in the afterlife, I heard the morning sun doesn't cast no shadow" line is utterly perfect.
In fact I think it might be the pinnacle of all music for me.
The melody of that line,
The angelic vocals,
The words,
and the understated shuffling drums creating suspense and tension.
Perfect.
Also, Andreas Johnson might want a word with Noel for pinching his strings.
But what would a Noel song be without a blatant rip off.
10/10
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 11, 2021 10:35:29 GMT -5
Him describing this as one of his most traditional sounding tunes makes me feel quite confident about the fact that he's comfortable pushing it a bit more and he knows he can do it now I don't expect WBTM part 2 because I'm not sure he could do that as his own producer but I'd be surprised if LP4 was a complete u-turn, he's mentioned how working with Holmes and making it a habit to write into the studio has influenced him so I'm definitely excited to see how that translates into the music Said all this, if the traditional stuff he puts out is on pair with this, or if he even managed to match the Dead In The Water peak once again, I'd be very happy I don't really want anything from Noel as long as it's good music at this point, but it's great to be in a position where you don't really know what to expect from HFB, it wasn't a given when Album #1 came out I mean Noel did self produce Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place, Evil Flower and Blue Moon Rising. He could make MOON sounds without Holmes. I like all these tunes and was a big fan of the EPs. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 11, 2021 10:53:08 GMT -5
Him describing this as one of his most traditional sounding tunes makes me feel quite confident about the fact that he's comfortable pushing it a bit more and he knows he can do it now I don't expect WBTM part 2 because I'm not sure he could do that as his own producer but I'd be surprised if LP4 was a complete u-turn, he's mentioned how working with Holmes and making it a habit to write into the studio has influenced him so I'm definitely excited to see how that translates into the music Said all this, if the traditional stuff he puts out is on pair with this, or if he even managed to match the Dead In The Water peak once again, I'd be very happy I don't really want anything from Noel as long as it's good music at this point, but it's great to be in a position where you don't really know what to expect from HFB, it wasn't a given when Album #1 came out I mean Noel did self produce Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place, Evil Flower and Blue Moon Rising. He could make MOON sounds without Holmes. I like all these tunes and was a big fan of the EPs. Don't get me wrong I really like the EPs (especially the This Is The Place one to which I go back to fairly often), but they were just Noel experimenting with sounds and trying to incorporate the stuff he likes into what he does, and the tunes weren't necessarily meant to go together, they were a bit of a collage, his approach to albums is (rightfully) way more thought out Now, can he do something as colourful, dynamic, varied and at the same time cohesive as Who Built The Moon on his own without anyone pushing him not only when it comes to sounds but throughout the writing process as well? I'm not sure, but I'm curious nonetheless and I certainly wouldn't mind the idea of a more traditionally *written* album with a more adventurous production, it'd be an interesting take on what he learned from Holmes |
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Post by The Escapist on May 11, 2021 11:03:55 GMT -5
Him describing this as one of his most traditional sounding tunes makes me feel quite confident about the fact that he's comfortable pushing it a bit more and he knows he can do it now I don't expect WBTM part 2 because I'm not sure he could do that as his own producer but I'd be surprised if LP4 was a complete u-turn, he's mentioned how working with Holmes and making it a habit to write into the studio has influenced him so I'm definitely excited to see how that translates into the music Said all this, if the traditional stuff he puts out is on pair with this, or if he even managed to match the Dead In The Water peak once again, I'd be very happy I don't really want anything from Noel as long as it's good music at this point, but it's great to be in a position where you don't really know what to expect from HFB, it wasn't a given when Album #1 came out I mean Noel did self produce Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place, Evil Flower and Blue Moon Rising. He could make MOON sounds without Holmes. I like all these tunes and was a big fan of the EPs. For me, these tunes are proof that Noel does need a Holmes figure to make those kind of sounds. They're an admirable effort, but they still have that slightly staid Noel sound, that fear of doing another Be Here Now and pushing the boat out too far, which isn't present in the blizzard of sound that WBTM succeeded with. A song like Blue Moon Rising is good, but with a producer there to force Noel past his insecurities of throwing caution to the wind again, it could hit a hell of a lot harder. I'm a big fan of Who Built the Moon, but the EPs bore me, because while Noel's clear-but-safe production works for Chasing Yesterday type songs, it stops more adventurous music from really flying how it should. I don't think it necessarily has to be Holmes, though. Just any producer willing to push Noel off the cliff, to force him to throw the manual out of the window and let the songs be as compressed, noisy, or wild as they want to be. I remember Noel teased us about working with Jamie XX; if he wanted to do more sleek, dance songs, that wouldn't be a bad shout: |
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 11, 2021 11:28:44 GMT -5
I mean Noel did self produce Black Star Dancing, This Is The Place, Evil Flower and Blue Moon Rising. He could make MOON sounds without Holmes. I like all these tunes and was a big fan of the EPs. For me, these tunes are proof that Noel does need a Holmes figure to make those kind of sounds. They're an admirable effort, but they still have that slightly staid Noel sound, that fear of doing another Be Here Now and pushing the boat out too far, which isn't present in the blizzard of sound that WBTM succeeded with. A song like Blue Moon Rising is good, but with a producer there to force Noel past his insecurities of throwing caution to the wind again, it could hit a hell of a lot harder. I'm a big fan of Who Built the Moon, but the EPs bore me, because while Noel's clear-but-safe production works for Chasing Yesterday type songs, it stops more adventurous music from really flying how it should. I don't think it necessarily has to be Holmes, though. Just any producer willing to push Noel off the cliff, to force him to throw the manual out of the window and let the songs be as compressed, noisy, or wild as they want to be. I remember Noel teased us about working with Jamie XX; if he wanted to do more sleek, dance songs, that wouldn't be a bad shout: Jamie xx is a guy I've been saying Noel should work with since 2010. Would serve him well. |
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Post by glider on May 11, 2021 20:59:04 GMT -5
WBTM? is his best solo album, unrestrained by old habits and has a great neo-western theme to it. The title tracks to the EPs are clearly dance oriented and have a club sound in mind but aren't full on and sound held back. You'd think being friends with Bono would give Noel confidence to release something like Babyface or Lemon, but not yet.
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 12, 2021 8:31:40 GMT -5
Noel on this just said (Matt's podcast) it's about a very specific person and time, won't tell who and what obviously, but it's about "not being able to say goodbye"
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Post by bt95 on May 12, 2021 11:49:18 GMT -5
It's a lovely tune, but I do hope LP4 doesn't have the same vibes. Want Noel to keep pushing out there, my secret dream for this guitar-driven sound is that we finally get some shoegaze Noel. His falsetto vocals would work really beautifully in a haze of guitars, and it'd be a great way to bring guitars back to the fore without just being a middle-aged man version of Oasis. If not full shoegaze, something like this fucking banger would be good: I do like The Hindu Times (album version), but bloody hell, the demo is just so fucking big and dark. You can tell the life situation Noel was in from the lyrics it seems, whoever he was mad with (it seems Meg?). I'm sure that's the song that he was working on in 2000 when, in that famous interview in Tokyo, he says 'sounds like Black Sabbath' |
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Post by uboasis on May 12, 2021 11:50:42 GMT -5
I feel like I've come full circle with my fandom on this song. Of course people mentioned the Cast No Shadow and Hey Now mentions. However, it was the 'don't know why' lyric in Champagne Supernova that good me hooked on oasis. And in this song, the 'Don't Know Why' is a highlight of this song. Very well sung and he changes it up each of the three times. I love this song.
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Post by shibs on May 13, 2021 6:35:34 GMT -5
can't decide between 7 and 8 for this. beautiful song, like others have said the sort of thing noel could chuck out in his sleep. doesn't detract from the fact it's pretty mega.
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Post by thespiderandthefly on May 13, 2021 8:18:04 GMT -5
Love this tune but the aspiration at 2:33 is killing me. Much more pronounced when listening over headphones. Can anyone fix this??
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 13, 2021 11:44:36 GMT -5
Literally still can’t stop playing this... Two full weeks later.
This is an incredible song.
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Post by modxxii on May 13, 2021 13:43:08 GMT -5
Love love love love it.
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Post by slush on May 16, 2021 19:13:01 GMT -5
First few listens, 6-7... last week... 8.5... now 10/10 and I would say one of this best in the last decade. It's subtle - doesnt force it and sounds exactly what the soundtrack for that New Wave French movie Breathless would sound like.
For reference, I rank his solo best songs in order,
1. Holy Mountain tied with If I had a Gun
3. We're on our way now
4. Ballad Of the Might I
5. Beautiful World
Those got the magic
6. Everybody on the run
7. Lock all the doors
8. Dead In the Water
9. What a life
10. Heat of the moment
11. Freaky Teeth
Just very good songs but no magic
First post in years, but felt the need
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 27, 2021 17:10:25 GMT -5
Still blown away.
Knowing of Noel’s incredible standards, and all his classics is the only reason I’m hesitant to go above 8/10, but an increase is tempting, lurking, and ultimately inevitable.
Absolutely beautifully and brutally emotional. This song has hit me hard.
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 27, 2021 17:29:20 GMT -5
I truly love it
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Post by The Escapist on May 27, 2021 18:03:20 GMT -5
I find myself humming this all the time. The chorus, the verses, just keeps popping back up.
I wouldn't say I love it, but I do think it's a real piece of class. Noel did good.
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