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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2020 12:56:02 GMT -5
I think Chasing Yesterday is a bit overrated. The songs are not that great and I don't like the production much either. At least NGHFB 1, despite the Sardy production, had some really good tunes on it.
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Post by World71R on Nov 18, 2020 13:39:52 GMT -5
I think Chasing Yesterday is a bit overrated. The songs are not that great and I don't like the production much either. At least NGHFB 1, despite the Sardy production, had some really good tunes on it. I think Chasing Yesterday got a lot of praise because it was different from the Sardy-produced works. It was straightforward but also touched on elements of jazz, ambient, and new wave, and the highest highs were pretty high & something different for Noel (While the Song Remains the Same, Riverman, Ballad of the Mighty I, The Right Stuff). There were definitely some leftovers (The Dying of the Light, Lock All the Doors) too. I like it, to be honest. It doesn't have the strong cohesion that WBTM? has, or the distinct Oasis-evolved, Noel solo sound that NGHFB has, but it's a good set of songs that served its time well and led to bigger things creatively. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 18, 2020 13:51:58 GMT -5
NGHFB is maybe his best collection of songs post-Oasis (b-sides and bonus tracks included), but it's also the most uninspired in terms of production and variety
WBTM is the most cohesive as a record and the most exciting in terms of sound, although maybe with less standalone tracks on their own, but I think it's his best solo work and I enjoy it more than any other Oasis record aside from the first two
CY's lows are maybe the more cliched and dull out of the three records, but I still like it more than the debut and think the highs are not only fantastic but also kind of what led to WBTM
Tracks like BOTMI, Riverman, WTSRTS, The Right Stuff show that he was more than capable of being influenced by something slightly different to the usual, and that he was at a point in his career where he really wanted to do it
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Post by tiger40 on Nov 18, 2020 14:30:27 GMT -5
I love Chasing Yesterday and it's Noel's best solo album for me. His first album I'm not a big fan of apart from certain songs like Stranded On The Wrong Beach for one example. His Who Built The Moon album is good but I think that I prefer the live versions of the songs.
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Post by PepsiNebula on Nov 18, 2020 23:57:19 GMT -5
I'm surprised both Liam's solo albums ended up below all Noel's solo albums. I would have thought they'd be mixed together. Maybe I spend too much time on the Liam subforum, ha ha. I would definitely have put WMWN above Chasing Yesterday, at least. CY to me is the least coherent of Noel's albums, and about half of it is just really forgettable to me.
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Post by lg on Nov 19, 2020 2:15:04 GMT -5
Wbtm sixth? I think that I'm the only one who doesn't like this album lol
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Post by PepsiNebula on Nov 19, 2020 2:47:15 GMT -5
Wall of Glass Chinatown For What It's Worth Come Back to Me Paper Crown I've All I Need Shockwave The River Once One of Us Now That I've Found You Gone Until now I hadn't put together that Liam has released six singles per album. Does that seem like overkill to anyone else? It's one week short of a year between Wall of Glass and I've All I Need. That seems absurd. |
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Post by modxxii on Nov 19, 2020 6:14:44 GMT -5
Anybody suprised with the ranking?
1. Definitely Maybe
2. (What's the Story) Morning Glory?
3. Be Here Now
4. Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
5. Chasing Yesterday
6. Who Built the Moon?
7. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
8. Dig Out Your Soul
9. As You Were
10. Why Me? Why Not.
11. Don't Believe the Truth
12. BE
13. Heathen Chemistry
14. Different Gear, Still Speeding
My rank would have been: 1. (What's the Story) Morning Glory? 2. Definitely Maybe 3. Be Here Now 4. Heathen Chemistry 5. Why Me? Why Not. 6. Who Built the Moon? 7. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds 8. Standing on the Shoulder of Giants 9. Dig Out Your Soul 10. Don't Believe the Truth 11. Chasing Yesterday 12. As You Were 13. Different Gear, Still Speeding 14. BE |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 19, 2020 7:39:03 GMT -5
Wall of Glass Chinatown For What It's Worth Come Back to Me Paper Crown I've All I Need Shockwave The River Once One of Us Now That I've Found You Gone Until now I hadn't put together that Liam has released six singles per album. Does that seem like overkill to anyone else? It's one week short of a year between Wall of Glass and I've All I Need. That seems absurd. Thinks it's kind of useless unless you're having a long album run, but doesn't make much of a difference anyway as the Gallaghers are not gonna make a big impact on the singles front once the record's out If it means getting some b-sides/promo I'm all for having 5 singles (6 maybe is a bit too much) |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Nov 19, 2020 7:40:27 GMT -5
Anybody suprised with the ranking?
1. Definitely Maybe
2. (What's the Story) Morning Glory?
3. Be Here Now
4. Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
5. Chasing Yesterday
6. Who Built the Moon?
7. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
8. Dig Out Your Soul
9. As You Were
10. Why Me? Why Not.
11. Don't Believe the Truth
12. BE
13. Heathen Chemistry
14. Different Gear, Still Speeding
My rank would have been: 1. (What's the Story) Morning Glory? 2. Definitely Maybe 3. Be Here Now 4. Heathen Chemistry 5. Why Me? Why Not. 6. Who Built the Moon? 7. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds 8. Standing on the Shoulder of Giants 9. Dig Out Your Soul 10. Don't Believe the Truth 11. Chasing Yesterday 12. As You Were 13. Different Gear, Still Speeding 14. BE Morning Glory Definitely Maybe Who Built The Moon Be Here Now Chasing Yesterday Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants NGHFB Dig Out Your Soul As You Were Why Me Why Not Don't Believe The Truth BE Heathen Chemistry Different Gear Still Speeding |
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Post by Aman on Nov 19, 2020 9:19:58 GMT -5
Wbtm sixth? I think that I'm the only one who doesn't like this album lol I'm with you as well! |
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Post by Aman on Nov 19, 2020 9:26:41 GMT -5
1. DM
2. WTSMG
3. Be Here Now
4. As You Were
5. SOTSOG
6. Dig Out Your Soul
7. Chasing Yesterday
8. Don't Believe The Truth
9. NGHFB
10. Heathen Chemistry
11. WMWN
12. DGSS
13. WBTM
14. BE
Something like that.
The last 5 are all interchangeable, I wouldn't listen to any of them ever again.
DBTT and NGHFB are meh to me now.
Meaning truly I only really like 7 of all their albums. And even then DOYS and CY are flawed.
Their strike rate of actual good albums for me isn't great lol.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Nov 19, 2020 11:16:41 GMT -5
1. Definitely Maybe
2. (What's the Story) Morning Glory?
x. The Masterplan
3. Be Here Now
4. Dig Out Your Soul
5. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
6. Chasing Yesterday
7. Who Built the Moon?
8. Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
9. Don't Believe the Truth
10. Heathen Chemistry
11. As You Were
12. Why Me? Why Not.
13. BE
14. Different Gear, Still Speeding
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Post by beentherenow on Nov 19, 2020 14:03:50 GMT -5
I’d go
Definitely Maybe
Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
Be Here Now
(What’s the Story) Morning Glory?
Dig Out Your Soul
As You Were
Why Me? Why Not?
Chasing Yesterday
Don’t Believe The Truth
Who Built The Moon?
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
Heathen Chemistry
Different Gear Still Speeding
BE
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Post by GlastoEls on Nov 20, 2020 18:41:27 GMT -5
Champions League:
- Morning Glory
- Definitely Maybe
- The Masterplan
Premier League:
- As You Were
- Why Me Why Not
- NGHFB
- Chasing Yesterday
- Be Here Now
Championship:
- Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants
- Don’t Believe The Truth
- Dig Out Your Soul
- Heathen Chemistry
- Noel’s 3 EPs
League One
- Who Built The Moon
League Two
- BE
- Different Gear, Still Speeding
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Post by freek on Nov 21, 2020 10:08:49 GMT -5
Morning Glory
Definitely maybe
(The Masterplan)
Be Here Now
Don't Believe The Truth
Dig Out Your Soul
Chasing Yesterday
Standing On The Shoulder of Giants
NGHFB
Heathen Chemistry
Who Built the Moon?
Why me? Why not?
As you were
Different Gear Still Speeding
BE
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Post by PepsiNebula on Nov 21, 2020 14:19:23 GMT -5
Here's my ordering based just on what I like, with no claim to objective quality. Albums in each tier ordered chronologically.
Albums I regularly listen to all the way through
- Morning Glory
- Be Here Now (although I usually skip the last three tracks)
- Dig Out Your Soul
- NGHFB
- BE
- As You Were
- Why Me Why Not
Albums I like 2-3 songs from or only occasionally listen to all the way through
- Definitely Maybe
- The Masterplan
- Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants
- Heathen Chemistry
- Chasing Yesterday
Albums I don't listen to at all ever
- Don’t Believe The Truth
- Different Gear, Still Speeding
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Post by NY on Dec 3, 2020 18:16:05 GMT -5
Not what i think is "best", but in the order i listen to the most:
Be Here Now
Standing on the Shoulder of Giants
Who Built The Moon?
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
Dig Out Your Soul
Chasing Yesterday
Definitely Maybe
(What’s the Story) Morning Glory?
As You Were
Don’t Believe The Truth
BE
Heathen Chemistry
Why Me? Why Not?
Different Gear Still Speeding
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Post by World71R on Dec 3, 2020 19:07:31 GMT -5
(What's the Story) Morning Glory?
Definitely Maybe
Who Built the Moon?
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds
Be Here Now
Chasing Yesterday
Standing on the Shoulders of Giants
As You Were
Don't Believe the Truth
Why Me? Why Not.
Dig Out Your Soul
Heathen Chemistry
BE
Different Gear, Still Speeding
This made me realize how little I've listened to Oasis and the post-Oasis projects lately, but I noticed that when I do:
WTSMG, DM, and WBTM? have that classic feeling that is easy to dive back into at any time and be refreshed by it. All the tracks are good, very palatable, and the highest highs really add something fundamental to the Oasis canon. HFB1 isn't far behind but the production holds the tunes back, to me.
BHN, CY, and SOTSOG have tunes I can really get into, but I can never quite do the same "dive" that I do with the top three. Those three also have at least one track that have (glaringly) not aged well (Magic Pie, The Mexican, Put Yer Money..., Little James).
AYW, DBTT, and WM?WN. are ones that have disappeared from my radar over time, but I really enjoy the albums when I go back to them. I put AYW higher because the tracks in-between the highest highs have a stronger, more genuine edge to them than the other two albums. WM?WN. has some songs that feel a bit contrived to me and DBTT has two too many filler songs (ABWR, TMOS)
DOYS is interesting but takes a nosedive, and I've tired that album out at this point. HC is another album that lost its lustre quickly but, like DOYS, there are some very good songs on there. I'd argue HC has higher highs than DOYS, but totally lacks in consistency that DOYS has (until those dreaded two songs near the end, which aren't actually all that bad).
With Beady Eye, I frankly never listen to them anymore. I'll listen to some of the highs every so often but some their lowest lows just suffer from some awful, awful cliches and often lack proper songwriting craft, which is really strange.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 3, 2020 19:55:14 GMT -5
My rank would have been: 1. (What's the Story) Morning Glory? 2. Definitely Maybe 3. Be Here Now 4. Heathen Chemistry 5. Why Me? Why Not. 6. Who Built the Moon? 7. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds 8. Standing on the Shoulder of Giants 9. Dig Out Your Soul 10. Don't Believe the Truth 11. Chasing Yesterday 12. As You Were 13. Different Gear, Still Speeding 14. BE Morning Glory Definitely Maybe Who Built The Moon Be Here Now Chasing Yesterday Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants NGHFB Dig Out Your Soul As You Were Why Me Why Not Don't Believe The Truth BE Heathen Chemistry Different Gear Still Speeding Not much to say about the first two, classic records, no skips, Noel and Liam at their respective peaks WBTM maybe is not the strongest in terms of individual songs but it's such fun to listen throughout, I go back to it fairly often as it's got the best quality an album can have: diverse sounding songs but with a great flow and cohesive feeling It still sounds fresh after 3 years and there's so much going on BHN is a more complicated listen because of how long and bloated it is but when I put it on it just sounds so uplifting, it's probably my go-to summer album, and I think it's an underrated collection of songs when you look at it CY has some weak links that spoil it a bit (The Mexican, Lock All The Doors, album version of In The Heat Of The Moment compared to the live one), but I still find it extremely enjoyable and the highs are on par with Oasis early material (maybe not all of it, but you get it) and really an indication of what was about to come for Noel While The Song Remains The Same, Riverman, Mighty I, The Right Stuff and The Dying Of The Light is such a strong and varied top 5 SOTSOG is flawed, and I can't help thinking of what could've been with a couple of tweaks, but I love how moody it sounds and I still believe 3 or 4 songs on there are absolute gems NGHFB is made of a very good batch of tunes, but the production and some safe choices with the tracklist hold it back and make it less appealing for me, so I don't go back to it as often as I do with the ones above DOYS sounds like a proper record, which is a feeling I don't get with the previous two Oasis albums, and sometimes I really wonder what would've happened with Oasis if they ever made it to album #8 I wish the second half was as strong as the second, although songs like Falling Down and Soldier On try to save it Sadly Ain't Got Nothing, The Nature Of Reality and the lifeless studio version of To Be Where There's Life ruin it and I don't find myself listening to it in full that much As You Were is a good record I rarely go back to When I do I still think it sounds good and very solid from start to finish Why Me? Why Not is kinda the opposite, very strong highs I listen to regularly (Once, title track, NTIVFY), but feel the average level of the rest of the tracks is lower and sounds definitely less exciting DBTT lacks any connection between Noel's stuff and the rest, TIOBI and Part Of The Queue could easily be solo tracks, and Let There Be Love and Mucky Fingers in their own ways carry on with that mood, Lyla is a bit of a standalone song TUTS is very good, GGTIA is decent, the rest is forgettable to say the least, but aside from the quality of the songs it just sounds like it's split in two halves to me BE I don't really go back to, but I think there's some really good stuff on it I enjoy from time to time (Soon Come Tomorrow and Soul Love are brilliant, Start Anew, Ballroom Figured and Flick Of The Finger are alright), it sounds like a transition record to something that never was The lows are pretty low, though Heathen Chemistry is Oasis most uninspired work, and it's all on Noel Liam's was basically at his start as a songwriter and did a good job (Better Man's bad, but Songbird and BOADC are good and showed promise), Andy and Gem didn't do much, Noel was at his worst as a songwriter and did a terrible job as a producer I'd save SCYHO, even Little By Little doesn't sound so good on the album compared to what it's like during HFB gigs Idler's Dream and Shout It Out Loud though, now we're talking DGSS is just bad, simple as that 2 or 3 good tunes, an alright single which was a Lennon rip off, a million cliches, shit lyrics and dated sound I think they rushed it |
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Post by garylineker on Dec 7, 2020 21:24:41 GMT -5
I think Chasing Yesterday is a bit overrated. The songs are not that great and I don't like the production much either. At least NGHFB 1, despite the Sardy production, had some really good tunes on it. I think Chasing Yesterday got a lot of praise because it was different from the Sardy-produced works. It was straightforward but also touched on elements of jazz, ambient, and new wave, and the highest highs were pretty high & something different for Noel (While the Song Remains the Same, Riverman, Ballad of the Mighty I, The Right Stuff). There were definitely some leftovers (The Dying of the Light, Lock All the Doors) too. I like it, to be honest. It doesn't have the strong cohesion that WBTM? has, or the distinct Oasis-evolved, Noel solo sound that NGHFB has, but it's a good set of songs that served its time well and led to bigger things creatively. To me, it was the perfect balance for Noel. It seemed like the songs were still at the forefront of the work but he was more and more open to the idea of trying new things on them. Not every song had to have a jingle from a 1970s french rock song to show how edgy he now is. If it was a good song, it got on there. Skip forward to WBTM and it was Noel basically with a concept, and that concept was - lets appease as many of my musical peers as possible, like Elton John and Paul Weller, who i'm so desperate to show i'm not than man from Oasis anymore. |
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Post by garylineker on Dec 7, 2020 21:34:38 GMT -5
Wall of Glass Chinatown For What It's Worth Come Back to Me Paper Crown I've All I Need Shockwave The River Once One of Us Now That I've Found You Gone Until now I hadn't put together that Liam has released six singles per album. Does that seem like overkill to anyone else? It's one week short of a year between Wall of Glass and I've All I Need. That seems absurd. This isn't 1994 where he needs a monkey and airplane to release 5 singles off an album. Wall Of Glass and For What It's Worth were the only 2 real singles from the first album in reality. And by real singles, i mean a real go at them charting/video release and TV promotion. Chinatown, Come Back To Me and Paper Crown were all merely videos (quite cheaply made) to further promote the fact he had an album out. Likewise I've All I Need was just an excuse to put something over the As It Was teaser. The second album, Shockwave was a proper release and then it seemed like they didn't know what to release between One Of Us and Once and we ended up with One Of Us video and nothing for Once for a while. So only really One Of Us got what you could call a decent release. Seems like now "singles" are nothing like what they once were. We usually get one big release before each album, one album teaser kind of track and then a few videos to keep the album alive more than anything. |
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