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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 10, 2020 18:56:04 GMT -5
We all know what I’m talking about. You know it when you hear it. It even spills into today’s Liam and can be heard in songs like Be Still’s chorus.
It’s so distinct, you can’t mistake it. And yet it’s by far the worst and most annoying part of Beady Eye. If cringe were a sound.
But what is ‘it’?
And who is responsible for this nonsense? It sounds like rubbish Andy Bell would come up with.
Why not stick to the classic Oasis sound? It’s no coincidence the best thing BDI did was the SOTS cover (which is brilliant, btw). Gem worked with Noel long enough to be able to pull off that as compared to the beige shite we got.
Thanks Andy.
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Post by Rolo on Jul 10, 2020 19:13:23 GMT -5
Sigh.
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Post by matt on Jul 10, 2020 20:05:59 GMT -5
Beady Eye’s problem was that they tried to stick to the Oasis sound. 90% of all their songs were the kind of filler material that you found on Oasis albums post-2000. Everything about it sounded terribly stale and dated - hard to believe now what with the brilliant and unbelievable success he’s had these last few years but the whole thing was so bad it nearly torpedoed Liam’s career entirely.
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Post by matt on Jul 10, 2020 20:11:15 GMT -5
We all know what I’m talking about. You know it when you hear it even spills into today’s Liam and can be heard in songs like Be Still’s chorus. It’s so distinct, you can’t mistake it. And yet it’s by far the worst and most annoying part of Beady Eye. If cringe were a sound. But what is ‘it’? And who is responsible for this nonsense? It sounds like rubbish Andy Bell would come up with. Why not stick to the classic Oasis sound? It’s no coincidence the best thing BDI did was the SOTS cover (which is brilliant, btw). Gem worked with Noel to be able to pull off that as compared to the beige shite we got. Thanks Andy. Sorry but what did Gem ever contribute to Oasis or Beady Eye?
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jul 11, 2020 4:01:22 GMT -5
We all know what I’m talking about. You know it when you hear it even spills into today’s Liam and can be heard in songs like Be Still’s chorus. It’s so distinct, you can’t mistake it. And yet it’s by far the worst and most annoying part of Beady Eye. If cringe were a sound. But what is ‘it’? And who is responsible for this nonsense? It sounds like rubbish Andy Bell would come up with. Why not stick to the classic Oasis sound? It’s no coincidence the best thing BDI did was the SOTS cover (which is brilliant, btw). Gem worked with Noel to be able to pull off that as compared to the beige shite we got. Thanks Andy. Sorry but what did Gem ever contribute to Oasis or Beady Eye? Off At The Next Exit is pretty great. It's probably my favourite BE song ( There's only around 5 songs I like a lot though).
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Post by globe on Jul 12, 2020 9:50:00 GMT -5
We all know what I’m talking about. You know it when you hear it. It even spills into today’s Liam and can be heard in songs like Be Still’s chorus. It’s so distinct, you can’t mistake it. And yet it’s by far the worst and most annoying part of Beady Eye. If cringe were a sound. But what is ‘it’? And who is responsible for this nonsense? It sounds like rubbish Andy Bell would come up with. Why not stick to the classic Oasis sound? It’s no coincidence the best thing BDI did was the SOTS cover (which is brilliant, btw). Gem worked with Noel long enough to be able to pull off that as compared to the beige shite we got. Thanks Andy. Hilarious. Andy has more creativity in his left pinky than Liam and Gem put together. Take it you’ve never listened to Ride?
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Post by rebus on Jul 12, 2020 20:20:14 GMT -5
Forgettable.
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Post by World71R on Jul 12, 2020 21:34:13 GMT -5
We all know what I’m talking about. You know it when you hear it. It even spills into today’s Liam and can be heard in songs like Be Still’s chorus. It’s so distinct, you can’t mistake it. And yet it’s by far the worst and most annoying part of Beady Eye. If cringe were a sound. But what is ‘it’? And who is responsible for this nonsense? It sounds like rubbish Andy Bell would come up with. Why not stick to the classic Oasis sound? It’s no coincidence the best thing BDI did was the SOTS cover (which is brilliant, btw). Gem worked with Noel long enough to be able to pull off that as compared to the beige shite we got. Thanks Andy. Hilarious. Andy has more creativity in his left pinky than Liam and Gem put together. Take it you’ve never listened to Ride? Andy was so underappreciated and underused in BE and Oasis. I know he wanted to write Oasis songs when he first joined the band but damn I can't help but think of the missed opportunity it was for Oasis in the 2000s not to have Noel and Andy take total creative control, with the occasional contribution from Gem and/or Liam. Noel's songwriting paired with Andy's shoegazing/dream pop would've been an amazing step in pushing the Oasis sound forward, like Noel wanted to do after the first three albums, but it never came about. Such a shame.
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Post by russiangenius on Jul 13, 2020 5:33:10 GMT -5
I think it's not about lyrics but about music. I can't hear anything Beady Eye-ish in Be Still, maybe it's just typical Liam lyrics he had written.
But what about music is that Beady Eye tried to sound like DBTT. This album was huge in UK and it sounded really like Beatles stuff. Beady Eye albums (especially first) were much compared with Beatles stuff and I think DBTT is the most Beatles-esque of Oasis albums. I think they tried to repeat this on DGSS. Just compare these sounds in GGTIA and TBGO - absolutely the same songs by sound. ABWR and KTDA are abolutely typical Beady Eye songs. I can't see the difference in quality with both two and Wigwam or Kill For A Dream or Morning Son. Eyeball Tickler and MOS are absolutely the same as Beatles and Stones and SOTEOTN by energy (and lyrics, yeah). Except FLW DGSS is about little high slow bland riffes repeating themselves from song to song. And that wasn't classic Oasis sound. BE was much freshier and it was a turn to something acoustic but more original. It was closer to AYW than Oasis or DGSS. It was something new.
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jul 13, 2020 18:15:41 GMT -5
I think it's not about lyrics but about music. I can't hear anything Beady Eye-ish in Be Still, maybe it's just typical Liam lyrics he had written. But what about music is that Beady Eye tried to sound like DBTT. This album was huge in UK and it sounded really like Beatles stuff. Beady Eye albums (especially first) were much compared with Beatles stuff and I think DBTT is the most Beatles-esque of Oasis albums. I think they tried to repeat this on DBTT. Just compare these sounds in GGTIA and TBGO - absolutely the same songs by sound. ABWR and KTDA are abolutely typical Beady Eye songs. I can't see the difference in quality with both two and Wigwam or Kill For A Dream or Morning Son. Eyeball Tickler and MOS are absolutely the same as Beatles and Stones and SOTEOTN by energy (and lyrics, yeah). Except FLW DGSS is about little high slow bland riffes repeating themselves from song to song. And that wasn't classic Oasis sound. BE was much freshier and it was a turn to something acoustic but more original. It was closer to AYW than Oasis or DGSS. It was something new. DBTT is pretty much the first Beady Eye album. I stuck it on the other day in the car and it's just so shit. For me, it's far worse than HC. I loved that period of the band and thought it was great when it came out but the songs just aren't there. It's also just too retro sounding and Oasis always sounded like modern rock and roll in the '90s.
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Post by morning_rain on Jul 16, 2020 3:30:54 GMT -5
The Beady Eye sound was rock'n'roll cliché, and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. But in my opinion they did their best work when they moved away from it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 8:41:24 GMT -5
The Beady Eye sound was rock'n'roll cliché, and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. But in my opinion they did their best work when they moved away from it. I think that's pretty much it. The main two reasons DGSS is so bad are 1) the insistence on using all the uptempo rock songs they had and 2) the clichéd rock production. It's the whole 90s Oasis coattail sound that Shed Seven, Ocean Colour Scene etc had.
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Post by medievalrichard on Jul 20, 2020 12:27:34 GMT -5
Personally I think Beady Eye were decent. First album is better than the 2nd, and some of the their b-sides should of been A sides. I just believe it was just too soon after Oasis and the name didn't click, plus when they started covering Oasis songs Noel wrote it was a bit.... hummm.... But hey they still sounded great.
Looking back Liam should of gone solo from start when Oasis split. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, though. lol
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Post by World71R on Jul 20, 2020 22:40:07 GMT -5
The Beady Eye sound was rock'n'roll cliché, and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. But in my opinion they did their best work when they moved away from it. Exactly. When they had the more acoustic moments and the songwriting shined, they were good. All the classic rock and Beatlesque cliches killed their aesthetic and sound, and made DGSS so lifeless and disposable, even when some of the songs most affected weren't that bad.
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Post by didthedamage on Feb 24, 2021 15:08:25 GMT -5
I think it's more of a smell than a sound.
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Post by Manualex on Feb 24, 2021 20:50:03 GMT -5
I think it's more of a smell than a sound. 1️⃣9️⃣6️⃣9️⃣❇️
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 25, 2021 13:48:44 GMT -5
I think it's more of a smell than a sound. I'm sorry but your post made me laugh.
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 25, 2021 13:52:08 GMT -5
I certainly don't hear any of the Beady Eye sounds in Liam's solo music at all. Maybe there's similarities at the beginning of Halo and Bring The Light but that's about it.
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Post by Lundblad on May 16, 2021 18:55:00 GMT -5
The Beady Eye sound was rock'n'roll cliché, and sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. But in my opinion they did their best work when they moved away from it. I think that's pretty much it. The main two reasons DGSS is so bad are 1) the insistence on using all the uptempo rock songs they had and 2) the clichéd rock production. It's the whole 90s Oasis coattail sound that Shed Seven, Ocean Colour Scene etc had. Interesting. That is exactly what I like about it.
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Post by yogurt on Jul 21, 2021 16:06:03 GMT -5
Everyone always talks about Andy’s past with Ride and how it shouldn’t been brought into his later music
Let’s not forget he had that awful Hurricane #1 band too, I mean maybe it’s harsh saying they are awful, but they were almost like a parody of Britpop but with no intended humour.
It makes me think the real creativity behind Ride was Gardener, seeing as Andy Bell had almost no interesting ideas after that,
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Post by shamumaybard on Jul 28, 2021 9:26:01 GMT -5
I think the distinct sound is just over used post production to hide liams voice.
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Post by LightsOffInside on Jul 28, 2021 9:51:32 GMT -5
The music was a bit blander, it missed the edge that Noel brought to the songs, and sounded flat a lot of the time. The lyrics were shite. Liams voice was worse, he was singing nasally and without passion.
Whereas now (as a solo artist) he sings a LOT less nasally, he is the best he's sounded in years (particularly live, the Thames gig was my favourite Liam performance since 2001). The production is much better, the songs are better, everything is better. There is a distinct difference to the Beady Eye sounds and the Liam sound, other than knowing its the same singer I hear no similarities between the two. The whole vibe is completely different.
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Post by tiger40 on Jul 28, 2021 12:32:44 GMT -5
Beady Eye definitely had some good songs but I think it was just too soon after Oasis. They should have waited a bit longer before they actually released anything.
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Post by jezza2 on Jul 28, 2021 17:22:02 GMT -5
Its the "Fuck Noel I can still sing" sound, and then the Olympics happened where I laughed my ass off the whole performance.
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Post by andymorris on Jul 30, 2021 4:23:02 GMT -5
They had a sound on the second record. The first one was a bit medley-esque, but the follow up i thought was a real step in the right direction.
Song selection was not good though. Most bsides were better.
Soul Love is beautiful.
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