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Post by uboasis on May 25, 2020 10:05:39 GMT -5
Assuming there is NO oasis reunion, would you prefer Liam put out his masterpiece and retire on top as a legend? Or would you want him to continue to replace good but similar albums every 2-3 years for the next 15 years?
I think I would prefer the Liam Masterpiece with the condition that Noel continues to put music out over the next 10-15 years to get my fix.
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Post by lg on May 25, 2020 10:17:02 GMT -5
My mind says 1 absolute classic masterpiece album but my heart says 5 more albums similar to the level of the first two, I don't want a future without LG
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Post by megyesitomate on May 25, 2020 10:38:52 GMT -5
I think I would be completely happy if he made only one, but a classic album in the future but continued to tour as much as possible. He's sung on so many songs that the setlist could be varied heavily and it wouldn't get boring.
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Post by The Chief on May 25, 2020 11:07:18 GMT -5
Liam, bless him, is not a solo artist. He's made to be the singer of a band. Right now he's doing the best of a bad situation (Oasis and Beady Eye no longer existing). Which is why he's so angry about Oasis being dead. He also knows that Oasis without Noel won't be the same and that Noel's songs were the foundation of the band. That's why Oasis wouldn't work as much without Noel.
He'll never go out of the spotlight which is the most important thing to him. He needs the attention, the crowd, the tours, the music. So what he's doing now is the best of a bad situation. But it's not ideal. He could just retire but he can't. He needs this.
So I wouldn't have him make one big masterpiece and disappear. That's not good for him or us. I would rather he goes on making lackluster records with some good tunes on it and tour.
But to me, the best thing would be that he reforms Oasis with Bonehead, Whitey, a bass player (it could be Drew) but without Noel. That way he tours, plays the tunes he likes (he'd now be The Chief so if he wants to play Be Here Now he could), plays all the classics, he gets what he wants, we get Oasis back. He'd obviously need to recruit a good songwriter for any new album.
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Post by Rolo on May 25, 2020 12:04:04 GMT -5
Why Me? Why Not is a bit of a classic in my eyes.
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Post by modxxii on May 25, 2020 12:28:44 GMT -5
My mind says 1 absolute classic masterpiece album but my heart says 5 more albums similar to the level of the first two, I don't want a future without LG This. |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on May 25, 2020 12:47:51 GMT -5
1 classic album, but only if I can guarantee that it is considered one of the greatest of all time.
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Post by freddy838 on May 25, 2020 16:09:01 GMT -5
I like what he is doing now. I'm not sure he is capable of producing an absolute masterpiece anyway.
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Post by garys on May 25, 2020 16:19:12 GMT -5
I voted the 5 albums rather than just the one, I'd be satisfied with 3 good albums in that span along with a touring schedule. Life with only one more album from rkid isn't a thought I'd like to consider. They may have all not measured up after Morning Glory but I'm still glad we have them all.
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Post by oasisserbia on May 25, 2020 19:02:10 GMT -5
5 albums. It's not only about recorded music, why would I want him to retire? No more tours, waiting for new album, many interviews before new album, reviews, debates etc.
One 10/10 album and then four 4/10 instead of five 7/10 albums? That maybe.
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Post by World71R on May 25, 2020 19:31:08 GMT -5
I'd like to see a compromise of the two:
Give me one really great album as his next album but then still some consistently ~7 out of 10 albums that have some very good songs on it.
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Post by GlastoEls on May 28, 2020 17:32:51 GMT -5
I'm delighted with the two he's done already. More please.
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Post by fabulousbakers on May 28, 2020 22:41:24 GMT -5
Actually I liked his voice on World Outside My Room and I'd love to see him do an album of 1920s style material.
Stuff like this.
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Post by Jack on May 30, 2020 13:18:41 GMT -5
Liam, bless him, is not a solo artist. He's made to be the singer of a band. Right now he's doing the best of a bad situation (Oasis and Beady Eye no longer existing). Which is why he's so angry about Oasis being dead. He also knows that Oasis without Noel won't be the same and that Noel's songs were the foundation of the band. That's why Oasis wouldn't work as much without Noel. He'll never go out of the spotlight which is the most important thing to him. He needs the attention, the crowd, the tours, the music. So what he's doing now is the best of a bad situation. But it's not ideal. He could just retire but he can't. He needs this. So I wouldn't have him make one big masterpiece and disappear. That's not good for him or us. I would rather he goes on making lackluster records with some good tunes on it and tour. But to me, the best thing would be that he reforms Oasis with Bonehead, Whitey, a bass player (it could be Drew) but without Noel. That way he tours, plays the tunes he likes (he'd now be The Chief so if he wants to play Be Here Now he could), plays all the classics, he gets what he wants, we get Oasis back. He'd obviously need to recruit a good songwriter for any new album. He's already recruited good songwriters IMO |
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Post by The Chief on Jun 1, 2020 7:01:53 GMT -5
Liam, bless him, is not a solo artist. He's made to be the singer of a band. Right now he's doing the best of a bad situation (Oasis and Beady Eye no longer existing). Which is why he's so angry about Oasis being dead. He also knows that Oasis without Noel won't be the same and that Noel's songs were the foundation of the band. That's why Oasis wouldn't work as much without Noel. He'll never go out of the spotlight which is the most important thing to him. He needs the attention, the crowd, the tours, the music. So what he's doing now is the best of a bad situation. But it's not ideal. He could just retire but he can't. He needs this. So I wouldn't have him make one big masterpiece and disappear. That's not good for him or us. I would rather he goes on making lackluster records with some good tunes on it and tour. But to me, the best thing would be that he reforms Oasis with Bonehead, Whitey, a bass player (it could be Drew) but without Noel. That way he tours, plays the tunes he likes (he'd now be The Chief so if he wants to play Be Here Now he could), plays all the classics, he gets what he wants, we get Oasis back. He'd obviously need to recruit a good songwriter for any new album. He's already recruited good songwriters IMO They're OK. They're profesionnal songwriters so they tailor their writings to the artist they're writing for. They see Liam as someone who needs a very formulaic version of rock 'n' roll. They'll never be any evolution as such because that's not what they do. As a comparison, there's a real evolution between Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory. Because Noel got older, had more experience in writing and playing, and so on. That needs to happen otherwise Liam will be making the same record over and over. And Liam's known for loving "out and out rock 'n' roll songs nowanamean". He needs someone to help him look at other types of music. Now this isn't the place for a debate but to me WMWN is boring at best (and it's not a comparison with Noel in any way so please none of them "well Noel's EPs are boring too" as it's completely irrelevant). So they would have to tailor their new songs to the Oasis sound for it to matter and be successful. Because what Liam's singing now is not Oasis like at all. And the Oasis sound is more than just rock 'n' roll. There's a basis that is still present in Noel's cosmic pop and it was not there in any LAG songs in Oasis (bar Turn Up The Sun). |
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Post by Jack on Jun 1, 2020 7:15:50 GMT -5
He's already recruited good songwriters IMO They're OK. They're profesionnal songwriters so they tailor their writings to the artist they're writing for. They see Liam as someone who needs a very formulaic version of rock 'n' roll. They'll never be any evolution as such because that's not what they do. As a comparison, there's a real evolution between Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory. Because Noel got older, had more experience in writing and playing, and so on. That needs to happen otherwise Liam will be making the same record over and over. And Liam's known for loving "out and out rock 'n' roll songs nowanamean". He needs someone to help him look at other types of music. Now this isn't the place for a debate but to me WMWN is boring at best (and it's not a comparison with Noel in any way so please none of them "well Noel's EPs are boring too" as it's completely irrelevant). So they would have to tailor their new songs to the Oasis sound for it to matter and be successful. Because what Liam's singing now is not Oasis like at all. And the Oasis sound is more than just rock 'n' roll. There's a basis that is still present in Noel's cosmic pop and it was not there in any LAG songs in Oasis (bar Turn Up The Sun). I agree with you. However, this isnt Oasis anymore, its solo Liam/Noel. This is the sound and style they're going for now, and I'm satisfied with it. Would I like Liam to release another Columbia or Bring It On Down?...hell yes, but I've accepted that it's very unlikely. |
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Post by ossieoss30 on Jun 1, 2020 7:17:44 GMT -5
Keep doing what he’s doing. The first two albums are mint and Liam knows what he’s good at. No need to revolutionise anything. If you’re great at making steaks there’s no need to delve into the pasta market.
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Post by The Chief on Jun 1, 2020 8:10:41 GMT -5
They're OK. They're profesionnal songwriters so they tailor their writings to the artist they're writing for. They see Liam as someone who needs a very formulaic version of rock 'n' roll. They'll never be any evolution as such because that's not what they do. As a comparison, there's a real evolution between Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory. Because Noel got older, had more experience in writing and playing, and so on. That needs to happen otherwise Liam will be making the same record over and over. And Liam's known for loving "out and out rock 'n' roll songs nowanamean". He needs someone to help him look at other types of music. Now this isn't the place for a debate but to me WMWN is boring at best (and it's not a comparison with Noel in any way so please none of them "well Noel's EPs are boring too" as it's completely irrelevant). So they would have to tailor their new songs to the Oasis sound for it to matter and be successful. Because what Liam's singing now is not Oasis like at all. And the Oasis sound is more than just rock 'n' roll. There's a basis that is still present in Noel's cosmic pop and it was not there in any LAG songs in Oasis (bar Turn Up The Sun). I agree with you. However, this isnt Oasis anymore, its solo Liam/Noel. This is the sound and style they're going for now, and I'm satisfied with it. Would I like Liam to release another Columbia or Bring It On Down?...hell yes, but I've accepted that it's very unlikely. Oh me too, I'm just talking IF he decides to ever reform Oasis without Noel. It's not Oasis without that Oasis sound. If he ever reforms Oasis without Noel, he needs that so he doesn't become just an Oasis cover band. I think he can do it as a good part of the Oasis sound is him but only if he has the right songs. And I don't mean making Bring It On Down MKII, MKIII and so on. There's just a thing, it's hard to explain, in the Oasis sound. It's even present in SOTSOG which is far from Bring It On Down. But I'm not longing for an Oasis reunion at all. |
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Post by Jack on Jun 1, 2020 8:50:40 GMT -5
I agree with you. However, this isnt Oasis anymore, its solo Liam/Noel. This is the sound and style they're going for now, and I'm satisfied with it. Would I like Liam to release another Columbia or Bring It On Down?...hell yes, but I've accepted that it's very unlikely. Oh me too, I'm just talking IF he decides to ever reform Oasis without Noel. It's not Oasis without that Oasis sound. If he ever reforms Oasis without Noel, he needs that so he doesn't become just an Oasis cover band. I think he can do it as a good part of the Oasis sound is him but only if he has the right songs. And I don't mean making Bring It On Down MKII, MKIII and so on. There's just a thing, it's hard to explain, in the Oasis sound. It's even present in SOTSOG which is far from Bring It On Down. But I'm not longing for an Oasis reunion at all. Liam will never record new Oasis material without Noel. Will never happen. It's not Oasis. To me, there is no 'Oasis sound', as each Oasis album had it's own distinct and unique style and sound to it. Oasis just have quality. |
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Post by The Chief on Jun 1, 2020 9:41:33 GMT -5
Oh me too, I'm just talking IF he decides to ever reform Oasis without Noel. It's not Oasis without that Oasis sound. If he ever reforms Oasis without Noel, he needs that so he doesn't become just an Oasis cover band. I think he can do it as a good part of the Oasis sound is him but only if he has the right songs. And I don't mean making Bring It On Down MKII, MKIII and so on. There's just a thing, it's hard to explain, in the Oasis sound. It's even present in SOTSOG which is far from Bring It On Down. But I'm not longing for an Oasis reunion at all. Liam will never record new Oasis material without Noel. Will never happen. It's not Oasis. To me, there is no 'Oasis sound', as each Oasis album had it's own distinct and unique style and sound to it. Oasis just have quality. When I say the Oasis sound I don't mean they sound the same because they don't. I think a quality is a good term too. It's that subtle thing that makes an Oasis song sound completely different and richer than any Liam solo song or any Beady Eye song or any LAG song in Oasis bar Turn Up The Sun in the latter days. I don't think Liam would reform Oasis, we were just talking ifs here. He did say he could do it but I doubt he'd want to. |
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Post by Jack on Jun 1, 2020 11:16:07 GMT -5
Liam will never record new Oasis material without Noel. Will never happen. It's not Oasis. To me, there is no 'Oasis sound', as each Oasis album had it's own distinct and unique style and sound to it. Oasis just have quality. When I say the Oasis sound I don't mean they sound the same because they don't. I think a quality is a good term too. It's that subtle thing that makes an Oasis song sound completely different and richer than any Liam solo song or any Beady Eye song or any LAG song in Oasis bar Turn Up The Sun in the latter days. I don't think Liam would reform Oasis, we were just talking ifs here. He did say he could do it but I doubt he'd want to. Yeah, I get ya |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Jun 1, 2020 11:45:23 GMT -5
Liam will never record new Oasis material without Noel. Will never happen. It's not Oasis. To me, there is no 'Oasis sound', as each Oasis album had it's own distinct and unique style and sound to it. Oasis just have quality. When I say the Oasis sound I don't mean they sound the same because they don't. I think a quality is a good term too. It's that subtle thing that makes an Oasis song sound completely different and richer than any Liam solo song or any Beady Eye song or any LAG song in Oasis bar Turn Up The Sun in the latter days. I don't think Liam would reform Oasis, we were just talking ifs here. He did say he could do it but I doubt he'd want to. Yeah, i think Liam recognises that both he and Noel made Oasis great, and knows better than to use the name without him. And anyways, he doesn't exactly need the name anymore. He's famous enough that people know who he is, and since going solo his reputation has improved. If anything, now that he's built a steady solo career, using the name would be a step back. Admittedly he does need the Oasis songs live , but back then his singing was key to making many of them what they are, even if he didn't write them. |
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Post by GlastoEls on Jun 2, 2020 15:51:28 GMT -5
It's that subtle thing that makes an Oasis song sound completely different and richer than any Liam solo song Respectful firm disagree, Several solo songs up there with Oasis for my money. Once. One Of Us. Bold. Wall Of Glass. I’ve All I Need. Gone. |
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Post by vespa on Jun 2, 2020 19:26:29 GMT -5
The oasis sound is Liam his vocal is unmistakable but I get what your saying but for a band they say didnt evolve they didn’t do bad as no album sounds the same , the sound I’d say your onabout is like the Hindu times it’s a basic British rock n roll song but basic and it sounds distinctive because actually nobody really plays tracks quite in that formula ..why me why not seemed a little rushed but the singles are brilliant but ain’t too slow in places ..noels eps were great Liam singing on black star dancing would’ve took it to another level
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Post by The Chief on Jun 3, 2020 5:11:31 GMT -5
Respectful firm disagree, Several solo songs up there with Oasis for my money. Once. One Of Us. Bold. Wall Of Glass. I’ve All I Need. Gone. Allow me to firmly disagree too  Those are good songs, don't get me wrong. They're mostly my favourite from Liam' solo catalogue. But there's something missing from the Oasis sound. It's really hard to explain. The oasis sound is Liam his vocal is unmistakable but I get what your saying but for a band they say didnt evolve they didn’t do bad as no album sounds the same , the sound I’d say your onabout is like the Hindu times it’s a basic British rock n roll song but basic and it sounds distinctive because actually nobody really plays tracks quite in that formula ..why me why not seemed a little rushed but the singles are brilliant but ain’t too slow in places ..noels eps were great Liam singing on black star dancing would’ve took it to another level Yeah that's partly my point. We've had Liam sing crap songs... they were no less crap. But Liam singing a good song makes it better. We've seen several songs in Oasis where we wished Liam sang on instead of Noel. |
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