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Post by trippertrasher on Jul 7, 2020 3:32:49 GMT -5
Noel in the studio. Liam in the studio...........what’s occurring here then?
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Post by Flashbax on Jul 7, 2020 7:22:26 GMT -5
OAsiS ReUniON!!!!11!!!!!!!1
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Post by theseventwenty on Jul 8, 2020 16:36:09 GMT -5
There was a bunch of amps and pedals and mics and stuff set up in the guy’s IG stories whilst he had Champagne Supernova and If I Had A Gun playing in them...hopefully he’s making something guitar-based!
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Post by theseventwenty on Jul 8, 2020 16:39:00 GMT -5
Oh and his current story is some choral-sounding female harmonies /backing vocals being played back - might be a little part from a new Noel tune?
I don’t know Jess/Ysee/Charlottes voices well enough to spot if that’s them or not
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Post by uboasis on Jul 8, 2020 17:05:16 GMT -5
Oh and his current story is some choral-sounding female harmonies /backing vocals being played back - might be a little part from a new Noel tune? I don’t know Jess/Ysee/Charlottes voices well enough to spot if that’s them or not I think I saw the story. It sounds more like Piney Gir, Amy Ashworth, and Emma Brammer from Gaz Coombes backing band. They appear on Rattling Rose, A Dream is All I Know to get By, and Wandering Star. I believe Nile Rodgers refers to them as the Roxy Girls. I am NOT saying it is them but sounds more like them than Ysee and Jess. Who knows, I may not even be looking at the right story.
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Post by theseventwenty on Jul 8, 2020 19:13:05 GMT -5
Oh and his current story is some choral-sounding female harmonies /backing vocals being played back - might be a little part from a new Noel tune? I don’t know Jess/Ysee/Charlottes voices well enough to spot if that’s them or not I think I saw the story. It sounds more like Piney Gir, Amy Ashworth, ain Gaz Coombes backing band and appear on Rattling Rose, A Dream is All I Know to get By, and Wandering Star. I believe Nile Rodgers refers to them as the Roxy Girls. I am NOT saying it is them but sounds more like them than Ysee and Jess. Who knows, I may not even be looking at the right story. The one I saw was where they pan round and show the graveyard outside - that one? Interesting info, thank you!
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Post by uboasis on Jul 8, 2020 21:15:49 GMT -5
I think I saw the story. It sounds more like Piney Gir, Amy Ashworth, and Emma Brammer from Gaz Coombes backing band. They appear on Rattling Rose, A Dream is All I Know to get By, and Wandering Star. I believe Nile Rodgers refers to them as the Roxy Girls. I am NOT saying it is them but sounds more like them than Ysee and Jess. Who knows, I may not even be looking at the right story. The one I saw was where they pan round and show the graveyard outside - that one? Interesting info, thank you! Yes, that is the video, I saw. When you posted it, I highly doubted I'd have the ability to figure out the voice but I've been doing some detective work on the EP Credits because they are not readily available and I would say those vocals definitely sound like the ones on those three tracks I mentioned above.
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Post by Jessica on Jul 13, 2020 9:12:11 GMT -5
Confirmed on the podcast yesterday. His studio isn't ready so he's in another, has three tracks down, one of them he's not keen on though. So probably the next album.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 14, 2020 10:57:27 GMT -5
Confirmed on the podcast yesterday. His studio isn't ready so he's in another, has three tracks down, one of them he's not keen on though. So probably the next album. The ones he usually hates are normally the noteworthy tunes meanwhile the songs he praised almost always end with disappointment. Just one of those Noel things.
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Post by matt on Jul 14, 2020 11:20:06 GMT -5
I do hope he’s not producing himself or has a yes man like Sardy alongside him. If so, I’m sure the album will have a nagging feeling of sounding tame. With David Holmes, the good thing with him was he threw the kitchen sink at it and then some.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 14, 2020 13:03:32 GMT -5
I do hope he’s not producing himself or has a yes man like Sardy alongside him. If so, I’m sure the album will have a nagging feeling of sounding tame. With David Holmes, the good thing with him was he threw the kitchen sink at it and then some. Not the greatest selection of songs though. A combination of good tunes and good production would be nice this time.
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Post by matt on Jul 14, 2020 14:22:35 GMT -5
I do hope he’s not producing himself or has a yes man like Sardy alongside him. If so, I’m sure the album will have a nagging feeling of sounding tame. With David Holmes, the good thing with him was he threw the kitchen sink at it and then some. Not the greatest selection of songs though. A combination of good tunes and good production would be nice this time. I agree, but I feel a top producer would have pushed Noel by seeing the full potential of Blue Moon Rising for example - I like the dancey direction but I wish it was heavier and while a song like Blue Moon Rising is really good, it could go up to great with a bit more work.
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Post by Manualex on Jul 14, 2020 15:04:37 GMT -5
I do hope he’s not producing himself or has a yes man like Sardy alongside him. If so, I’m sure the album will have a nagging feeling of sounding tame. With David Holmes, the good thing with him was he threw the kitchen sink at it and then some. Not the greatest selection of songs though. A combination of good tunes and good production would be nice this time. One thing that bothers me about Moon is that the process eliminated any songs from being partially written out of the studio and thinker with them instudio. If You are going to experiment do it and if the song's sorry singing then you have a new hybrid of both ways of songwriting.
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Post by Derrick on Jul 29, 2020 17:16:27 GMT -5
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Post by Gas Panic on Jul 30, 2020 3:23:04 GMT -5
Not the greatest selection of songs though. A combination of good tunes and good production would be nice this time. One thing that bothers me about Moon is that the process eliminated any songs from being partially written out of the studio and thinker with them instudio. If You are going to experiment do it and if the song's sorry singing then you have a new hybrid of both ways of songwriting. I would take that statement from Noel with a very large pinch of salt. I suspect Noel was 'coming up with ideas on the spot' with Holmes that he had been working on prior to the recording sessions on many of the albums tracks.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 30, 2020 3:45:24 GMT -5
One thing that bothers me about Moon is that the process eliminated any songs from being partially written out of the studio and thinker with them instudio. If You are going to experiment do it and if the song's sorry singing then you have a new hybrid of both ways of songwriting. I would take that statement from Noel with a very large pinch of salt. I suspect Noel was 'coming up with ideas on the spot' with Holmes that he had been working on prior to the recording sessions on many of the albums tracks. Well, we know that most of the tracks took sometime to make. It also took a long time to really get going as Noel's management basically told him to finish the album already since him and Holmes had been working on it for so long. For the most part, I'd take Noel's word for it. Mainly because if he was using ideas that he had explored prior to their recording then the recording would've gone a lot quicker.
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Post by The Chief on Jul 30, 2020 6:22:28 GMT -5
I would take that statement from Noel with a very large pinch of salt. I suspect Noel was 'coming up with ideas on the spot' with Holmes that he had been working on prior to the recording sessions on many of the albums tracks. Well, we know that most of the tracks took sometime to make. It also took a long time to really get going as Noel's management basically told him to finish the album already since him and Holmes had been working on it for so long. For the most part, I'd take Noel's word for it. Mainly because if he was using ideas that he had explored prior to their recording then the recording would've gone a lot quicker. Well, given you can play WBTM in its entirety on acoustic guitar and the fact that we know Noel remembers everything he he writes which he deems good, I would have to side with Gas Panic on this one. All the songs on the record are completely Noel-like so I think only the production, sounds and tinkering are David Holmes. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up playing him at least some things he had already written.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 30, 2020 20:25:18 GMT -5
Well, we know that most of the tracks took sometime to make. It also took a long time to really get going as Noel's management basically told him to finish the album already since him and Holmes had been working on it for so long. For the most part, I'd take Noel's word for it. Mainly because if he was using ideas that he had explored prior to their recording then the recording would've gone a lot quicker. Well, given you can play WBTM in its entirety on acoustic guitar and the fact that we know Noel remembers everything he he writes which he deems good, I would have to side with Gas Panic on this one. All the songs on the record are completely Noel-like so I think only the production, sounds and tinkering are David Holmes. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up playing him at least some things he had already written. The songs being playable on an acoustic really says nothing about how they were written. We know for a fact that Holy Mountain was only written because of a sample Holmes showed Noel. We also know that Noel started writing She Taught Me How to Fly because Holmes suggested he write something like Blondie. It's kinda hard to say that Holmes only tinkered or Noel brought plenty of his ideas beforehand when we know for sure that at least 20% of the record wasn't that at all. Furthermore, these aren't just Noel's quotes. We also know from Holmes that he provided loops and backing tracks for Noel to jump off from. Which in that case, makes it pretty difficult for Noel revert back to ideas he had prior to them recording. Because a backing track or loop should take the player in a completely different direction than they're used to. Moreover, we know that they were basically testing pedals to write the songs. Some pedals were ones that Noel had never used before. Once again, it's really difficult to revert to your prior ideas and make them sound just as coherent on a pedal when you've got no training on them. Most of the time, you try to write to the pedal's effect. Or at least pair what you already have with the right pedal. So having a grab bag of pedals makes that difficult, too. Besides, saying they're Noel-like doesn't say much. Radiohead experiment all the time. They still sound like Radiohead. In the end, Noel's writing the songs. So no matter how much he veers into another direction, it's always going to sound Noel-like because there are just certain tendencies, things that are instinctual, that a player/songwriter isn't going to unlearn.
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Post by The Chief on Jul 31, 2020 6:16:15 GMT -5
Well, given you can play WBTM in its entirety on acoustic guitar and the fact that we know Noel remembers everything he he writes which he deems good, I would have to side with Gas Panic on this one. All the songs on the record are completely Noel-like so I think only the production, sounds and tinkering are David Holmes. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up playing him at least some things he had already written. The songs being playable on an acoustic really says nothing about how they were written. We know for a fact that Holy Mountain was only written because of a sample Holmes showed Noel. We also know that Noel started writing She Taught Me How to Fly because Holmes suggested he write something like Blondie. It's kinda hard to say that Holmes only tinkered or Noel brought plenty of his ideas beforehand when we know for sure that at least 20% of the record wasn't that at all. Furthermore, these aren't just Noel's quotes. We also know from Holmes that he provided loops and backing tracks for Noel to jump off from. Which in that case, makes it pretty difficult for Noel revert back to ideas he had prior to them recording. Because a backing track or loop should take the player in a completely different direction than they're used to. Moreover, we know that they were basically testing pedals to write the songs. Some pedals were ones that Noel had never used before. Once again, it's really difficult to revert to your prior ideas and make them sound just as coherent on a pedal when you've got no training on them. Most of the time, you try to write to the pedal's effect. Or at least pair what you already have with the right pedal. So having a grab bag of pedals makes that difficult, too. Besides, saying they're Noel-like doesn't say much. Radiohead experiment all the time. They still sound like Radiohead. In the end, Noel's writing the songs. So no matter how much he veers into another direction, it's always going to sound Noel-like because there are just certain tendencies, things that are instinctual, that a player/songwriter isn't going to unlearn. I'm not saying that Noel arrived with 10 songs all ready to go and pretended they were new. I believe Noel when he explains how the record was conceived. But what I'm saying is that given that the songs themselves, the foundation of the songs, sound like they could have been on any record from Noel and the difference we hear are the sounds and samples and pedals and effects that were mostly built by or with David Holmes, it makes it hard for anyone to tell if they were really completely written on the spot in the studio or if he had some of the songs or some song ideas that were already written. And the point I was making is that it's possible that they were. And personally I don't really care nor do I think it's really important. Who Built The Moon is my favourite record of his and I still listen to it regularly.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 31, 2020 13:19:02 GMT -5
I guess its confirmed Noel is recording new material So, an article come out, it's in spanish and there's nothing groundbreaking in it, but he's indeed legit and does work as an assistant engineer Not really a spanish speaker myself, but here's more or less what he said: "One day Brendan Lynch called to ask me if I was available for a session with Noel Gallagher. He was looking for someone who was quick, knew the studio and was "musical" (fuck knows how to translate this), so he recommended me to him" Tomas started working with the ex Oasis, of whom he praises the creativity and his way of approaching (?) the sessions. “I have never worked with someone as effective in the studio, he's one of the most professional people I've seen in my life. He's got very clear ideas and there's no coming back, that's how it is”. He cannot be more specific about what the Gallagher's got in his hands, but he says David Gilmour's backing singers made a stop to the studio and adds: “I'm really surprised by what he is doing. I don't really know what's gonna happen until he finishes the session, because every time he adds something, everything changes drastically”. Here's the link if anyone wants to have a look silencio.com.ar/entrevistas/en-profundidad/tomas-crow-el-argentino-que-trabaja-junto-a-noel-gallagher-y-zak-starkey-48270/
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Post by eva on Jul 31, 2020 15:19:58 GMT -5
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Post by queenblougaredoc on Jul 31, 2020 16:56:06 GMT -5
Looks like the leak is imminent
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Post by warewolf95 on Aug 1, 2020 10:01:06 GMT -5
Not the greatest selection of songs though. A combination of good tunes and good production would be nice this time. I agree, but I feel a top producer would have pushed Noel by seeing the full potential of Blue Moon Rising for example - I like the dancey direction but I wish it was heavier and while a song like Blue Moon Rising is really good, it could go up to great with a bit more work. A good producer would've told Noel that if he put reverb/echo on his voice one more time he would be shot. Pisses me off how fantastic the live-in-studio (Jools Holland) Wandering Star is but the EP version is horrific to listen to. That's the best Noel song in a while and the recording sucks!
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Post by uboasis on Aug 1, 2020 13:39:13 GMT -5
I agree, but I feel a top producer would have pushed Noel by seeing the full potential of Blue Moon Rising for example - I like the dancey direction but I wish it was heavier and while a song like Blue Moon Rising is really good, it could go up to great with a bit more work. A good producer would've told Noel that if he put reverb/echo on his voice one more time he would be shot. Pisses me off how fantastic the live-in-studio (Jools Holland) Wandering Star is but the EP version is horrific to listen to. That's the best Noel song in a while and the recording sucks! I agree with your premise but his voice was horrid on Jools version (and Noel is usually good in those settings). I haven't watched it in a while but I rembee it sounding weak and off key.
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Post by The Escapist on Aug 1, 2020 14:11:24 GMT -5
matt is spot on. Over two decades on, Be Here Now has still scarred Noel against being carefree and fun with a record. Unless he has a Holmes-esque taskmaster pushing him to go wild, I'm sure the next album will be akin to Blue Moon Rising: something decent and different that could have been mega if let loose, but which Noel's safety-first approach stopped from being genuinely exciting.
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