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Post by Zingbot on Feb 10, 2020 12:34:40 GMT -5
This thread is for songs(Oasis/High Flying Birds) that Noel had help writing, but kept the soul credit.
Such as:
Tony helping him write Supersonic.
Liam contributing a line to Don't Look Back In anger.
Please post what song and who helped write it, I hope for a semi-complete list. These don't have to be confirmed either.
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Post by wylliejack on Feb 10, 2020 12:40:51 GMT -5
The real people: all of them
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Post by morning_rain on Feb 10, 2020 13:12:04 GMT -5
Liam and Bonehead wrote part of Columbia, if I remember correctly.
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 10, 2020 14:08:57 GMT -5
DLBIA.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 10, 2020 15:13:07 GMT -5
Real People got a credit for Rockin Chair and should have done for Columbia. Should have done for Don't Go Away really.
What did Tony contribute to Supersonic – the drums I guess?
I do think it's a blurred line when it comes to lyrics.
Like, if you go with Liam contributing to DLBIA (I know he did) then you can pretty much say half of the songs in existence technically belong to multiple writers - lyrics can be taken from anywhere and anything, really.
I view it when it comes to the melody/structure. Like how Don't Go Away directly rips off the Real People in it's melody and structure. The lyrics too, but I think that's less important.
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Post by oasisserbia on Feb 10, 2020 16:14:01 GMT -5
Crediting Liam for DLBIA would be like crediting George Harrison for Wonderwall.
Btw, can you say crediting?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2020 17:35:02 GMT -5
The chorus thing in Go Let It Out is ripped off a poem
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Post by bt95 on Feb 10, 2020 17:50:23 GMT -5
The chorus thing in Go Let It Out is ripped off a poem Yeh exactly. Think there's a difference between 'ripping off/sampling/taking influence from' and then 'getting help with'. Obviously Noel/Oasis does/did both, a lot. But can we say T-Rex 'helped' write Cigs & Alcohol in the same way that the Real People genuinely did help write Columbia. Probably not. |
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Post by dadrocker on Feb 11, 2020 8:42:51 GMT -5
Everything is a remix. Part of the reason I love Noel's tunes so much is he wears his influences on his sleeve so brazenly.
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Post by oasisunited on Feb 11, 2020 9:14:58 GMT -5
What did Tony contribute to Supersonic – the drums I guess? I think the OP was referring to Tony Griffiths of the Real People, not Tony McCarroll. Tony G sings the backing vocals on the recording (the ahs). The Real People were definitely present in the studio when Noel supposedly wrote it in about 20 minutes, so its not hard to imagine that they might have helped/had some input on the song structure, etc. |
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Post by bt95 on Feb 11, 2020 10:42:54 GMT -5
What did Tony contribute to Supersonic – the drums I guess? I think the OP was referring to Tony Griffiths of the Real People, not Tony McCarroll. Tony G sings the backing vocals on the recording (the ahs). The Real People were definitely present in the studio when Noel supposedly wrote it in about 20 minutes, so its not hard to imagine that they might have helped/had some input on the song structure, etc. Ah got you! In all fairness to every member of the band (Oasis that is) they've always said Noel did go off and write Supersonic on his own. But yeh, if the Real People were there then it's no surprise they were involved too. Was at their studios in Liverpool was it not? |
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Post by oasisunited on Feb 11, 2020 10:46:06 GMT -5
I think the OP was referring to Tony Griffiths of the Real People, not Tony McCarroll. Tony G sings the backing vocals on the recording (the ahs). The Real People were definitely present in the studio when Noel supposedly wrote it in about 20 minutes, so its not hard to imagine that they might have helped/had some input on the song structure, etc. Ah got you! In all fairness to every member of the band (Oasis that is) they've always said Noel did go off and write Supersonic on his own. But yeh, if the Real People were there then it's no surprise they were involved too. Was at their studios in Liverpool was it not? It was recorded at the Pink Museum in Liverpool. It wasn't their studio, but they were always in there/around there. The studio has some of the history on its site: www.themotormuseum.com/ |
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Post by andymorris on Feb 11, 2020 11:20:08 GMT -5
The Real People were definitely present in the studio when Noel supposedly wrote it in about 20 minutes, so its not hard to imagine that they might have helped/had some input on the song structure, etc. That tricky, as always. Is adding stuff to a demo already written, writing ? or is it producing ? Or is it shaping ? Or is just doing your job ? I'd say it depends on how much the initial demo was altered. If it's just harmonies, or a yeah yeah yeah, or even a "Sally" then fuck no, if it's adding a bridge or an important part of the structure, then fuck yes. |
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Post by 2nz on Feb 11, 2020 12:24:38 GMT -5
Didn't Bonehead write the riff for Up in the Sky?
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Feb 12, 2020 18:12:58 GMT -5
Crediting Liam for DLBIA would be like crediting George Harrison for Wonderwall. Btw, can you say crediting? Its tough deciding what warrants writing credit. I thought “so Sally can wait” might be enough for one myself, as its the hook line of the song. I remember with the 80s song “Arthurs Theme”, all one writer contributed was the lyric “when you get caught between the moon and New York City” but got credit, as its the lyrical hook. |
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Post by mossy on Feb 13, 2020 8:01:58 GMT -5
The Right Stuff says hello. X
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Post by Manualex on Feb 13, 2020 8:16:01 GMT -5
The Right Stuff says hello. X The mexicano as well |
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Feb 13, 2020 14:43:12 GMT -5
Seems like people already got them all.
I second the view that as well as Rockin Chair, the Real People deserved credit on Dont Go Away and Columbia. For the latter, Liam also deserved it from what ive heard, he wrote some of the lyrics. And like i said earlier , IMO Liams contribution to DLBIA is enough as its arguably the most important line in the song (only one line of melody got Innes credit on Whatever). The one thats a bit uncertain is Supersonic (ive heard multiple stories , like one says it was based off a chord sequence/rhythm the band were playing together in a jam session).
Aside from those, theres songs he initially took sole credit for but doesnt anymore (Whatever, Step Out, Hello, maybe Shakermaker?) as writing credits are now shared. But he didnt exactly get help on those, they just sounded like other songs.
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Post by mossy on Feb 13, 2020 17:31:31 GMT -5
The Right Stuff says hello. X The mexicano as well The Mexican isn’t saying hello. The Mexican is sulking in the corner wishing it had Gaz’s original lyrics instead of Noel’s... X |
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Post by Manualex on Feb 13, 2020 18:40:03 GMT -5
The Mexican isn’t saying hello. The Mexican is sulking in the corner wishing it had Gaz’s original lyrics instead of Noel’s... X Why do you need love like a kid on crack? That's Genius :-D |
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Post by mossy on Feb 14, 2020 6:48:05 GMT -5
The Mexican isn’t saying hello. The Mexican is sulking in the corner wishing it had Gaz’s original lyrics instead of Noel’s... X Why do you need love like a kid on crack? That's Genius :-D Wah Waah Wah Waah Wah Wah Waaaaaaaaah X |
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Post by LlAM on Feb 14, 2020 7:53:18 GMT -5
Gary Glitter says hello!
Oops... Wrong forum 😇
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Feb 15, 2020 3:54:53 GMT -5
The Mexican isn’t saying hello. The Mexican is sulking in the corner wishing it had Gaz’s original lyrics instead of Noel’s... X What's the story there? Think I've missed this one |
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Post by mossy on Feb 15, 2020 5:34:03 GMT -5
The Mexican isn’t saying hello. The Mexican is sulking in the corner wishing it had Gaz’s original lyrics instead of Noel’s... X What's the story there? Think I've missed this one Gaz claims the AA “originated” The Mexican, including lyrics, which Noel rewrote. Their version had a line ending “some kinda aphrodisiac” which Noel later changed to “kid on crack”. If you’ve not heard it yet, an instrumental part with slide guitars is in the background here: X |
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Post by theseventwenty on Feb 19, 2020 22:23:51 GMT -5
I wonder if Gaz’s lyric was
“You said that you need love,
Some kind of aphrodisiac”
That flows nicely and makes more sense than what’s in the finished song...Gaz said somewhere that he spent 18 hours brainstorming lyrics for that tune - I wonder how many of them are still in the finished version, or just got changed around a little bit by Noel?
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