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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 6, 2020 4:33:41 GMT -5
There's so so many people and money are involved, in other words, it's hard to pull these out.
He'll be fine. Don't panic people.
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Post by bestwick8 on Feb 6, 2020 5:01:25 GMT -5
Fuck, really worried about the Amsterdam gig now...
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Post by sammaz on Feb 6, 2020 5:17:47 GMT -5
He’s incapable of doing two nights in a row, simple as that. How we know this but his management doesn’t is beyond me, especially in February when you’re more susceptible to colds etc Im going to Milan gig. The day after Rome. *feeearrrrr* Got everything crossed for you dude 🤞🤞 Was at the Copenhagen gig the other night and he was brilliant
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Post by bestwick8 on Feb 6, 2020 5:32:52 GMT -5
Was Hamburg a sold out show ?
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Post by igotflair on Feb 6, 2020 5:40:40 GMT -5
He’s incapable of doing two nights in a row, simple as that. How we know this but his management doesn’t is beyond me, especially in February when you’re more susceptible to colds etc Im going to Milan gig. The day after Rome. *feeearrrrr* I’m going to both of these. Feel the fear and do it anyway!
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Post by mimmihopps on Feb 6, 2020 6:05:21 GMT -5
Fuck, really worried about the Amsterdam gig now... He'll play tomorrow.
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Post by vespa on Feb 6, 2020 6:18:46 GMT -5
No need to panic just look at the amount of gigs he’s played since the early 90s and please count how many he’s cancelled with his style and lifestyle it’s not very many have folks he knows there’s a lot of travelling fans going to Amsterdam
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Post by sbrzuc on Feb 6, 2020 6:22:27 GMT -5
Fuck, really worried about the Amsterdam gig now... He'll play tomorrow. I am flying from Poland - how is it that you are so sure?
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Post by bt95 on Feb 6, 2020 6:36:24 GMT -5
Just seen that he cut yesterday short.
This isn't having a go at him, but Jesus, it's every time in a tour that he does this now.
March 2018 was the same - when he pulled out of Cologne due to illness and there were massive nerves for the Amsterdam gig I was going to.
I know this happens and it's nobodies fault really. But it happens every single time.
Feel for the people at the Hamburg show. Sure they'll get a rearranged date but it doesn't really make up for it.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 6, 2020 6:39:32 GMT -5
The people booking the gigs have to take some responsibility as does Liam, he's is well aware of what he can and can't manage after all these years. There has been and will be times when he pulls gigs because he simply isn't well and thats fair enough but he should never pull one because he's done to many. Him and those close to him who sort them out know exactly where the breaking point is. You and me and loads of others said this two years ago. This is the thing. Clearly haven't learned their lesson and at the end of the day the only people it actually damages are the fans.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 6, 2020 6:41:38 GMT -5
God he sounds absolutely awful when his voice goes.
But it's not good enough. Sorry.
Feel for the fans there. Hamburg's such a good venue for British acts (for obvious reasons).
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Post by Regi on Feb 6, 2020 6:54:54 GMT -5
The people booking the gigs have to take some responsibility as does Liam, he's is well aware of what he can and can't manage after all these years. There has been and will be times when he pulls gigs because he simply isn't well and thats fair enough but he should never pull one because he's done to many. Him and those close to him who sort them out know exactly where the breaking point is. I agree. However, we all know that touring is where the money is these days.
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Post by knownoname on Feb 6, 2020 7:06:43 GMT -5
The people booking the gigs have to take some responsibility as does Liam, he's is well aware of what he can and can't manage after all these years. There has been and will be times when he pulls gigs because he simply isn't well and thats fair enough but he should never pull one because he's done to many. Him and those close to him who sort them out know exactly where the breaking point is. You and me and loads of others said this two years ago. This is the thing. Clearly haven't learned their lesson and at the end of the day the only people it actually damages are the fans. I don't know, you can't really plan ahead a flu or cold, can you? And it doesn't sound like he did too much singing in the video, but that he is actually suffering from illness. That can happen to everybody, it's just bad luck and coincidence it happens again so heavily that it affects a concert.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 6, 2020 7:12:11 GMT -5
The people booking the gigs have to take some responsibility as does Liam, he's is well aware of what he can and can't manage after all these years. There has been and will be times when he pulls gigs because he simply isn't well and thats fair enough but he should never pull one because he's done to many. Him and those close to him who sort them out know exactly where the breaking point is. I agree. However, we all know that touring is where the money is these days. Absolutely but You're on about mixing in another 5-7 days in to the tour.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 6, 2020 7:13:14 GMT -5
You and me and loads of others said this two years ago. This is the thing. Clearly haven't learned their lesson and at the end of the day the only people it actually damages are the fans. I don't know, you can't really plan ahead a flu or cold, can you? And it doesn't sound like he did too much singing in the video, but that he is actually suffering from illness. That can happen to everybody, it's just bad luck and coincidence it happens again so heavily that it affects a concert. If that's what he's suffering from then no, you can't really plan for that.
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Post by ee on Feb 6, 2020 9:59:15 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 6, 2020 10:03:50 GMT -5
Out of all the bands I follow and see play live, it seems like only Liam continues to have these issues. Maybe its the flu or maybe its just being old and his style. I'm definitely always worried when he comes over for USA dates. Overall I've been extremely fortunate, no vocal issues the 11 times I saw Oasis and only once post breakup did Liam have a vocal issue and I won't lie, it was horrific. I'd rather he had walked off then gut through an hour show.
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Post by modxxii on Feb 6, 2020 10:12:05 GMT -5
Years and years of his singing style (which WE DO LOVE SO MUCH)... this is the bill. I dont get why he has never changed his vocal approach... at least a bit.
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Post by ee on Feb 6, 2020 10:26:39 GMT -5
He's got a thyroid condition. Hashimoto's disease has an effect on vocal cords- inflammation, oedema, paralysis etc., as far as I know.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2020 10:28:14 GMT -5
It can be difficult to accept that especially with Hashimoto's disease maybe he shouldn't tour as much I feel for him, I have it too.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 6, 2020 10:31:07 GMT -5
He's got a thyroid condition. Hashimoto's disease has an effect on vocal cords- inflammation, paralysis etc., as far as I know. Yep. Hence why his tours should be brief bursts with a day off between all shows. I know that doesn't really jive with max tour profits and/or venue availability.
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Post by bt95 on Feb 6, 2020 11:19:38 GMT -5
You and me and loads of others said this two years ago. This is the thing. Clearly haven't learned their lesson and at the end of the day the only people it actually damages are the fans. I don't know, you can't really plan ahead a flu or cold, can you? And it doesn't sound like he did too much singing in the video, but that he is actually suffering from illness. That can happen to everybody, it's just bad luck and coincidence it happens again so heavily that it affects a concert. It's happening on nearly every leg, though. Look, he's got a bad throat and clearly his vocal chords aren't in a good way - well, they're inflamed. You can't blame someone for getting ill but it's not like there isn't a precedent in extremely similar circumstances. So you can legislate for it, surely?
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Post by Rolo on Feb 6, 2020 11:40:45 GMT -5
Thinking about it, it's easy for us to say "spread them out more" but obviously there is a reason that isn't a viable option, I'm sure Liam would massively be in favour of that himself. Guessing the window of dates they can fit these tours in are very tight and you just have to go with whatever is available.
Something needs to be done though or he's going to really mess up his voice in the long run.
When I do just one gig with my tribute band I can feel the strain on my vocals, they are bloody hard songs to sing in that style. Don't know how he does that many gigs in that short period of time to be honest.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 6, 2020 11:56:20 GMT -5
Thinking about it, it's easy for us to say "spread them out more" but obviously there is a reason that isn't a viable option, I'm sure Liam would massively be in favour of that himself. Guessing the window of dates they can fit these tours in are very tight and you just have to go with whatever is available. Something needs to be done though or he's going to really mess up his voice in the long run. When I do just one gig with my tribute band I can feel the strain on my vocals, they are bloody hard songs to sing in that style. Don't know how he does that many gigs in that short period of time to be honest. The logistics have to be so tough. You got dozens of bands vying for venue spots just like he is. It’s expensive to take your act out on the road, especially overseas, every day you don’t gig costs you money from housing and meals point of view. Sounds dumb but it adds up. I’d much prefer Liam play bigger sized venues here and there so hes always in peak form. This way he can entertain the fans and he stills pulls in decent money despite lack of dates.
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Post by bestwick8 on Feb 6, 2020 11:59:09 GMT -5
Thank god ! This sounds a lot more comforting
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